liz Chaney canceled by the GOP

and what opinion of hers is it that 90% of the gop disagrees with?

It doesn’t matter (like most of what you post). She wasn’t representing her party. So they chose another woman to be a leader (bowing to the feminists of course).

K: two things, A. and why was she “Fired?” Because she told the truth that IQ45 lost
the election…once again, context matters and the why is important…

B. leadership is about doing what is right regardless of what others think…
if you spout the group values, you aren’t a leader…if you drive what the group
thinks, that is leadership…she was actually being more of a leader then McCarthy
ever was… and she has turned into the leader of the GOP…not the TFH party,
but for the GOP…and in 2024, she will run for president… lose of course to
Harris, but she will be the GOP next candidate for president…

Kropotkin

You are wrong on both counts (as usual) but I don’t need to argue with you about it.

this is the most cowardly answer you’ve ever given me here just sayin

Liz, like her father, was a neocon, a hawk, war monger, authoritarian (see patriot act), corporatist (see banker bailout), for free trade and open borders, what was good about her?
Biden and co are cut from the same cloth as her.
Dems should’ve elected Bernie in 2016 before he went woke (see ‘reverse’ discrimination) in 2020 and Tulsi in 2020.

What would make dems a much stronger party is if they focused on cleaning their own house rather than obsessing over what reps are doing.

K: here, fixed it for you…

Kropotkin

you should read this again and ask yourself if this is really a valid thing to say or if you are deflecting because you don’t want to talk about the subject at hand.

All corporate dems did for over 4 years was obsess over Trump.
Even several months after he’s gone they’re still obsessing over him.
Trump, Trump, Trump, 24/7/365.
Clearly they’re in love with him.
And now they’re obsessing over Lauren Boebert, Marjorie Taylor Greene (admittedly she may be a bit batshit) and the expulsion of Liz Cheney (good riddance) too.
Corporate dems have nothing constructive to offer, no real positive message of their own, all they have is deflection, fear, hate and stagnation, the same failed policies they’ve had for decades.

K: and IQ45 was a and still is, an existential threat to both America and the
world…he is easily the most dangerous president we have ever had…
and we were right to focus on something that is so dangerous as to threaten
our way of life and the democratic system…and I have offered you many, many
constructive options… you just choose to ignore them… at your own peril…

what is great about conservatives is that they always, always accuse others of
doing what they themselves do… if a conservative is fixated on Homosexuals,
then I can guarantee that they are “guilty feeling homosexuals”…

if they accuse others of voting rights violations, then I can guarantee that they are
doing just that… voting rights violations…conservatives have all the insight
and imagination of a rock… they couldn’t come up with something new to save
their own lives… hence they always accuse others of doing what they themselves are
doing…a serious lack of imagination…

Kropotkin

The Bush/Cheney and Obama/Biden regimes started multiple wars.

Trump started 0 wars, even tho he was pressured to by the deep state.

Who’s an existential threat?

Is that what dems are gonna run on from now on?

‘Dems; not an existential threat, unlike those reps’.

That’s setting the bar pretty low.

Maybe if dems had something to run on besides fear, regardless of whether it’s justified or not, they wouldn’t have to harp on about reps so much, but corporate dems and lib hawks can’t have that, cause they’d lose some of their power, and profits.

:laughing: :laughing: - the irony. :laughing:

Hope you’re not still holding your breath for tangible evidence of ‘Russian Collusion’.

I would hope they hold it more tightly.

Existential threat much?

[b]"Do Democrats really believe in open borders? It’s starting to look that way

Opinion: Republicans have long falsely claimed that Democrats believe in open borders. But lately, that’s starting to have the ring of truth.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/robertrobb/2019/07/17/democrats-believe-open-borders-which-immigration-laws-enforce/1745744001/

For years, Republicans have claimed that Democrats favor “open borders” when it comes to immigration. Democrats have protested that this is an inaccurate depiction of their position.

Historically, Democrats were on sound ground rejecting Republican hyperbole about their views. These days, however, “open borders” is starting to have the ring of truth about what Democrats favor.

While there has been a slight slowdown of late, the border has been overrun with immigrants from Guatemala, El Salvador and Honduras traveling with children. They turn themselves in to border patrol agents, saying they are seeking asylum.

The courts have established an inescapable box regarding what the U.S. can do with such immigrants. The courts have held that children can be held for no more than 20 days. And that families cannot be separated.

Show up with a child, get a pass

So, after a brief detention, they are released into the country with a court appearance scheduled for some distant time in future. The word has gotten out: Show up at the U.S. border with a child, claim asylum and you will be admitted into the country.

But people fleeing conditions in these Central American countries aren’t legally eligible for asylum. That requires a fear of persecution on account of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion.

Fleeing because of a fear of violence, irrespective of how valid, or due to a lack of economic opportunity, doesn’t qualify for refugee status, unless it is because of one of the enumerated group identities.

That’s not what’s happening in these countries. They are violent and lack economic opportunity. But people aren’t singled out for the misery because of their group identity. The misery is a general condition for a substantial portion of the population.

Republicans want to change policy so that showing up at the border with a child and claiming asylum doesn’t automatically result in admission, in the belief that would staunch the flow overwhelming border resources.

Democratic position: Let them all in

What do Democrats want to do about this true crisis at the border?

The implication of their assorted positions and assertions is: Let them all in.

While decrying conditions in existing detention facilities, they oppose adding any detention beds or building new facilities. If existing conditions are intolerable, but no additional capacity is to be added, then the only other alternative is to let everyone who shows up at the border into the country.

The only concrete proposal Democrats have offered to staunch the flow of immigrants from these Central American countries is to restore and increase foreign aid to them. Democrats’ belief in the ameliorative powers of American foreign aid is, to borrow a Samuel Johnson phrase from an entirely different context, a triumph of hope over experience. In the meantime, the Democratic position seems to be: Let them all in.

Which immigration laws will they enforce?

Democrats denounced them. But if we aren’t going to deport those who have had their day in court and have been ordered out of the country, who are we going to deport? And without deportation, what are the consequences for violating American immigration laws?

If there are no consequences for violating American immigration laws, how is that different from having an open border? At this point, what immigration laws would Democrats be willing to enforce?

Democrats support amnesty for most of those currently in the country illegally. I agree with them. But should our immigration laws be ignored until Congress so acts?

In the past, in exchange for amnesty, Democrats have been willing to support tougher enforcement of immigration laws in the future. As well as changing legal immigration from an emphasis on family unification to merit admissions based upon education and skills. At this point, it is no longer clear that Democrats would be willing to make that bargain.

Lambasting Trump is not enough

For the most part, Democrats spend their days lambasting the Trump administration’s immigration policies. They should spend some time formulating an alternative.

Right now, their rhetoric sounds an awful lot like the advocacy of open borders".[/b]

Did Trump’s covid response constitute an existential threat?

California took a draconian approach to covid, Florida took a laissez-faire approach.

Insofar as they can be trusted, let’s look at the numbers, bearing in mind California has about double the population but Florida has a higher % of old people.

Other than that, the states are similar in many respects.

[b]California

Coronavirus Cases: 3,767,083

Deaths: 62,629

Recovered: 2,010,237[/b]

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/california/

[b]Florida

Coronavirus Cases: 2,286,203

Deaths: 36,007

Recovered: 1,876,464[/b]

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/

And both California and Florida’s case and death rates have plummeted in the last few months.

Where is Florida’s existential threat?

Where is laissez-faire Belarus and Sweden’s?

Where is the bubonic plague or Spanish flu comparable death toll they told us would happen if we didn’t lockdown?

The socialist authoritarian global regime is the only “Existential Threat” - and to every nation and all peasants.

war is a part of nature bruh