God's existence at last proven!!!

Dear cyberphilosophers,

  1. Machines are made of atoms.

  2. Our planet is also made of atoms.

  3. Therefore, according to the rules of analogy, our planet is similar to machines.

  4. But machines are made by human intelligence.

  5. Therefore, according to the rules of analogy, our planet must be similar to machines in this other respect.

  6. Therefore, it is reasonable to believe that something like an intelligence is behind the creation of Earth.

:smiley:

I see at last you’ve given up trying to prove or disprove God. Its good to see. :slight_smile:

Dunamis

What about Anti-Atoms? Anti-Atoms would be the opposing side to Atoms, would we then have a Non-Intelligence behind the destruction of Earth?

Yes, this time it is a joke, but this joke raises a serious problem: the problem of the conditions of validity of analogical reasonings.

My prove is patently absurd, but try all the same to find what exactly is his problem.

the problem of the conditions of validity of analogical reasonings.

Our understanding of the world is built through analogical reasonings, but analogical reasonings prove nothing. Only the empirical adequacy of the analogous relations themselves justifies them, but they are not grounded in these. Always other analogous readings can provide empirical adequacy as well, and often do.

Dunamis

now follow me:

  1. Machines are made of atoms.

  2. Our planet is also made of atoms.

  3. Therefore, according to the rules of analogy, our planet is similar to machines.

  4. But our planet is made by no one.

  5. Therefore, according to the rules of analogy, our planet must be similar to machines in this other respect.

  6. Therefore, it is reasonable to believe that no one as an intelligent creator is behind the creation of earth.

And deconstruction prevails! Yay!

Iroel, doesn’t your “4. But our planet is made by no one.” assume that there was no God who created it? Hence you are assuming what you are trying to prove, also known as a circular argument.

Are you even taking me seriously?

I have no reason not to.

How does the existance of Atoms prove Gods existance? Mind going a bit further with this?

“The Universe is made up of Stories, not atoms”
- Muriel Rukeyser

God is a robot? Damn, why didn’t I see it before?

Perhaps god is Atoms considering Atoms are made up of everything?

No, no, you almost had it! Silly Lasko… He meant Atum, not Atom…

[size=75]…or did he mean Adam?[/size]

Perhaps what you meant is “everything is made of atoms”. At any rate, it is false: take the light.

Sam, Pisa, Dunamis,

An analogy is said to be made according to a likeness of form. Your comparison is similar in the likeness of matter. Which doesn’t tell you much unless you look at the form of the substanding atoms…and their order.

Argument from analogy can be an important way of understanding things.

mrn

(Iroel, good to see you again. Wish it was on a better occasion.
How do like my current location statement??) :smiley:

Dantesque :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

I didn’t think someone could miss me…maybe I’ll start posting a bit more from now on :smiley:

For an analogy to be inductivly strong. (Valid is technically the wrong word but whatever.) The two items must be similar in a relevant way, really more than one relevant ways. Composition by atoms here seems to be quite an irrelevant property.

In any case, no analogy can be as good a proof as a deductive syllogism.

hmm, im sorry but personally i think that is quite possibly the most flawed argument anyone could produce. :confused:

  1. The earth is shaped like a meatball.

  2. Meatballs are made by chefs.

  3. Therefore, the earth was made by a chef.

and on the seventh day, he rested in a bed of noodles…

the gospel according to boy-ar-dee

-Imp