hierarchy denies free will since it implies outright enslavement.
competition is doomed in any case because of the randomness principle, there will forever be in every choice we make a 3rd option that can jeopardize the latter. The more we accept this, the more flexible we can act. But this will require to live more spiritually than materialistically. And this is the step that many humans cannot make. Life is a zero sum game, we only win when ready to lose everything at any moment so to speak, and the few at the top know this.
The biggest conflict of all takes place within our selves. the fear of freedom IS the fear of potential chaos
metaphysically speaking, competition is fear based.
so 4000 years to get wiped out because we fail to grasp inherent flaws?
Dissapointing post. I thought you were better at logic than this.
I never blamed “all” problems on lack of competition, I blamed some problems on it.
Our world really isn’t full of competition. It’s full of resource hogging and slot grabbing, not competition. Slot grabbing isn’t really competition, it is simply spamming job applications and hoping you get a slot. It’s not the kind of competition I advocate. Same with resource hogging.
Take computer chips, for instance. Without competition, what drive is there to make a computer business? You can’t compete with Apple or Microsoft. So they hold a monopoly. There is no hope in cancelling their monopoly, because there is no way to compete with them. If you try to compete with them, you are wasting your time, because the State supports them and does not give you the opportunity to compete with them.
I guess talking about computer chips and business means I am a barbarian dominated by savagery?
Let’s display an alternative, a socialist world where there is no competition. There are various workshops where people can make various things, but everyone gets paid the same amount regardless of the quality of their inventions. Most of the inventions would be half assed and mediocre, noone would bother with customer support or bugfixes because theres no incentive to. People could just make endless copycat inventions of others and get paid the same amount, even though it does the same thing as already invented inventions. Or, even worse, the state does not allow inventions which are too similar to be even made, and only allow inventions which the state deems “useful” to be made.
Competition is the natural state. To remove competition requires outside influence.
Jim and Henry own a farm. Jim sells apples for 5 dollars a pound. Henry sells apples for 5 dollars a pound.
People think Henry has better apples, so they buy his more. Jim can barely afford rent…
With the socialist system, Jim is not allowed to change his prices.
With the capatilist system, Jim may adjust his prices.
With capatilism, Jim adjusts his prices to 4 dollars a pound. Now people buy his inferior apples. But people still buy Henry’s apples.
The quality of life for the poor and Jim improves, both save and get more money. The quality of life of the rich man, Henry, slightly diminishes.
Competition is good on the small scale, but on the large scale it begins to disentigrate.
For example, making a computer chip requires a factory. A large investment must first be made, and lowering prices only lowers the quality of life for the workers. Large monopolies must be regulated in order to ensure competition, rather than socialism.
It is full of competition. Just take a look at any random reality show and you’ll see what I mean. You can say it’s petty competition, but it is still competition. The reason it is petty is quite simply because people are divided more than ever, so the competitive power they have is too low for anything big to happen.
There is no social unity whatsoever. Look at any random Internet forum and you’ll see what I mean. People are becoming more and more anti-social, not more and more social.
People are becoming MORE competitive, not LESS competitive.
The solution is to fix the socialist system, not to adopt capitalist system.
This is a common mistake that people make: instead of solving the problem by coming up with an option that does not currently exist, or is simply outside of the set of available options, they simply adopt any other option that is available.
Often, this is an option that solves the problems that the other option does not, in the process ignoring all the problems that the former option solves that the latter option does not.
Human civilization is a proverbial zoo or farm. It is a place where a small minority farms the rest of human beings as livestock,chattel, or perpetual slavery. Morality and ethics are imaginary having no objective basis in reality where at best trying to implement both into law is purely transactionary in terms of money or power with those that enact them in terms of authorship which is the root word of authority in entymology.
You’re looking to solve an issue with fictitious concepts, metaphors, and words that when reduced mean nothing at all objectively.
There is no moral or ethical solution for humanity in that beyond regulated coerced and controlled perceptions of both neither actually exist. Such elaborate fictitious constructs also by those that author them into being only care about the narrow self interests that they defend, namely the establishment’s self interests.
One of my most popular sayings is that human hypocrisy or contradictive social behaviors negates all of so called morality and ethics entirely. It is the very thing that highlights the very absence of both in this world objectively.
I of course am arguing from a moral nihilist, moral skeptic, and emotivist position.
You’re right such a scenario doesn’t necessarily need to happen but more than likely will given human history and the dominant forces guiding it.
Ah, the naivety of technological cornucopians, utopians, and futurists.
You think the elite once fulfilling a roboticized world are just going to equally distribute everything by technological automation?
Talk about wishful thinking and naivety layed bare for everybody to see.
No, once such a world is completed there will be no place for a majority of human beings, no place or even reason to exist.
Then the managed violent global population elimination begins…
We’re already seeing a subtle passive indirect elimination of the world’s population in our current present. In the future it will become more and more direct.
I definitely regard nihilism is part of the problem. I have read Emile Cioran, french nihilist philosopher quite a bit 20 years ago, and I am glad I did it because it strengthened my stance. There are two kinds of capitulation, since we live in a dual universe. One that empowers the high self and leads to the understanding that Free Will is paramount, and the other that doesnt and allows the colonization of the mind.
You equate the first to naivete and fictitious constructs and I call this conclusion of yours the wrong kind of capitulation because it completely leaves out the fact that the Universe is conscious since everything within It obeys the Laws of Electricity. Morality and ethics are thus too defined by such Laws, neurons being electrically charged. Emotions are electric responses being the result of this awareness or lack there of. When unaware, the consequences can be quite dire since the polarization of Thought will end up negating or refuting the 3rd option that is necessary for Free Will to exist and become Action with a capital A .
The 1st and 2nd option represent the dilemma in every situation and cannot be considered as choices. Unfortunately most people will regard them as such and thus perpetuate the dilemma, which of course can only bring about exponential self-defeating mind patterns causing hopelessness - and prompting people to beg for rulers as a result.
It is essential to grasp this to reshuffle the power game and more importantly , get rid of it. Power, which cannot exist without competition, is truly the result of one’s own deficient electrical mind construct. Most ideologies humans have created are therefore no cures but mere layers of complexities that do not address the immorality of giving away one’s consent to start with. Each era exposes this immorality, and the evolution of Knowledge its compounding effects of course.
Hey there… the word socialism needs to be rebranded and seriously upgraded because as it stands it is very misleading or deceiving. Although competition breeds fears and will forever cause scarcity (result of speculation and hoarding, what capitalism is really about ) therefore, the dilemma is very deep because empathy (generosity/benevolence/etc) cannot be commanded.
The 3rd option here lies in the decision of abandoning the idea that whatever ruling body can fix this while rejecting competition as a model. There is a reason why most spiritual thoughts regard “peace” as essential to social and inner development. Unfortunately, most spiritual textbooks like to flirt with both sides of the fence, they are written by man after all, with the sole aim to confuse people further. I’d even would say that politics and religion have always made sure to protect “cultural marxism” , both are two sides of the same coin.
Yes, Empathy is the way, the only problem is how do we get there. From this perspective, positive individualism requires this understanding while negative individualism will set into motion the call for a centralized and enslaving structure.
Some would say following one’s passion is what capitalism is all about, but I don’t think I agree with these people. Capitalism squeezes the lifeblood of passion right out of you. You do what you love to do until the very thought of doing more makes you sick… and then you are compelled to keep doing it. Add to that that you are driven by the fear of being reprimanded just as much as passion; if you don’t perform up to a certain standard, you lose your job and your family will suffer.
I need an example. What society has embraced competition in the market place only to self-annihilate?
I still don’t get it. Drawinian evolution will always apply to humans so long as we are biological organisms that feed off the environment. How does knowledge and the meaning of creation fit into this?
A different interpretation, you say? Of what? The odds we are faced with to avoid DEvolution. What is it to re-interpret the odds? You mean to recognize that the odds of devolution are a lot greater than we think?
Oh, we’ll make it. Unfortunately for you and me, the “we” isn’t you and I. The rulers will survive, the masses will die.
Possibly, but I just meant that everything we work and toil for today, the stuff we don’t want to do, will be done for us by the robots.
Gib, at this stage, it is pretty clear that free market theories are as lethal as socialism, the two ideologies are about to merge, two extremes have the same outcomes. This is the trap of dualism that got us where we are and changing the paradigm is now the only solution.
Mankind history is dotted by the same misconceptions, When the so-called great Rome fell apart, 50% of population were slaves. The result of free markets, the pursuit of profits, slaves were cheaper than paid labor. The same holds true with black slaves imported from africa, real cause of the civil war. Slavery depresses an economy. Free markets need low wages and scarcity to create profits. Economic slavery is today the model of the entire planet.
The premises have been faulty all along: Man is just not an animal because of his ability to conceive a greater reality and the purpose the act of Creation if he really wants to… it is a choice that animals will never have. Moreover, man cannot even behave like an animal, instinctively, because when he does he becomes worse than an animal to the point to even destroy his own environment and become a threat to his entire own species. Animals do not have the dominion over Nature. The issue is clearly metaphysical and competition denies this aspect. Anyone can go to my site and click on the empathic society and currency for further metaphysical explanations. Any system that doesnt respect Life self-annihilates, the fate of all empires. Humans must be given the choice as to whether they wish to augment themselves or not instead of being eradicated in favor of the fittest. The Act of Creation defines “good vs evil” in the end, regardless of the Knowledge with a capital K.
Forget about profits when joblessness will be rampant. Yeah sure, WW3 could fix this. Competition is just ^^immoral^^ for humans, meaning a delusion that might engulf us all if we continue to treat humans as market assets.
A FEW LINKS/examples
Driverless Vehicles Powered by Artificial Intelligence, It’s No Myth: Robots and Artificial Intelligence Will Erase Jobs in Nearly Every Industry, predicts that “Manufacturing will be returning to U.S. shores with robots doing the job of Chinese workers; American carmakers will be mass-producing self-driving electric vehicles”, but will also bring about “The first large wave of unemployment will be caused by self-driving cars. These will provide tremendous benefit by eliminating traffic accidents and congestion, making commuting time more productive, and reducing energy usage. But they will eliminate the jobs of millions of taxi and truck drivers and delivery people.” from the San Francisco Bay area offers this analysis. batr.org/negotium/012716.html
and singularityhub.com/2015/07/07/it … -industry/
and naturalnews.com/052787_robot … evolt.html
The capatilism I refer to is not cruel. Poor get a welfare and food stamps. If you start a business and you don’t want to run it anymore, you can hand the keys to someone else, still getting a small cut. If you don’t want to work in a factory, you don’t have to, robots provide enough resources to allow people to choose welfare if they want.
I am curious how a non-competitive system would actually work better than this. You all talk a big game, but you don’t 'splain. Please share diagrams of how this would work.
what you clearly advocate for is that we all go on welfare… more marxist than that is impossible. Actually food stamps keep supermakets on life support, they would all collapse if they had to deal with their own waste since overconsumerism is taking a dive already. Keynesianism is a scourge itself, we cannot print our way out of this mess. I dont know if many realize but we have 1 quadrillion worth of derivatives (competitive financial products that caused the housing crash in 2008, which was contained by the bailout of the too big too fail)) ready to implode as the world debt based economy cannot take on any more debts. the global GDP was about less than 100 trillion a 4 years ago, but the debt load is almost 8 times as much. Then we have the war economy creating more debts and keeping the bubble inflated, I cannot think of anything that is more immoral than piling on debt for intervention and mass killing. Competition? Hard currencies or not, throughout history the powers that be have saddled their citizens with debts to wage wars.
how to start up a business when money becomes so scarce in such a deadly deflationary environment?
There is no option, it is not a matter of willing to work… there will be no jobs. Competition and cannibalization of the economy.
a non competitive system can only become reality if education follows but education has been too so darwininistic that there is no other option than accepting the collapse of the paradigm and deal with it… with a new mindset grasping metaphysics, why there are self-existing and immutable natural laws we cannot bypass nor ignore. This knowledge is at least 4000 year old, no wonder that is being used by a few at the top at our expenses. Chasing money like cavemen is about to end, which means that it was a delusion since day 1. Free market theories show their true colors.
Robots will obliterate America’s middle class and unleash mass unemployment, social chaos and global populist revolts
Thursday, January 28, 201
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You assume there is free will and a form of universal consciousness.
There is no immorality as there is no morality. There is only the absence of morality everywhere despite what everybody believes in or popular perceptions.
