Psychology is an academic and applied field that studies what goes on in the mind. The mind does a lot more stuff than this narrow field of study. My mind helped me have breakfast this morning but psychology did not.
Zinnat, Jr Wells is asking whether it is the question; he is not asking whether mind is more than the brain; he is just asking whether it is the question (whether mind is more than the brain) - not more. And the question in this thread is my question whether you agree that mind is more than psychology:
My question is not: Is mind more than the brain? The brain is a part of the a biology:
So my question is also not: Is mind more than biology?
My question is merely: Is mind more than psychology?
And (b.t.w.) you and I have already answered with YES.
it is through psychology and it’s psychological processes that mind is discovered, and not through the various definitions of mind, that psychology is discovered.
Psychology is a study of the mind just like geology is a study of earth and how it changes. You could ask: is the earth more than geology? The answer is yes… as geology is a very narrow field that has specific concerns.
Jr, sure, in a sequential latency of time succession of events yes. However, this sequence is analyzed pro an inductive method, the mind of here and now, is analyzed through this developed mind, not through as originally posited. This is the difference of the analysis ‘in terms of’. so we are really both: right and wrong.
I do not think that both questions are the same, or at least not perceived the same.
Most of the modern philosophers/intellectuals consider mind not as a real entity, but only a hypothetical one. They say that it is only the brain, which has actual existence. It is capable of manifesting thoughts and emotions, thus creates and maintains a particular set of congestion of such ideas that remains roughly the same all the time. This is what they all mind, and psychology is the behavior caused by it.
In the words of Serle, Brain causes minds.
But, i am not saying this. I am taking mind as an real entity, and only thoughts/psychology as a hypothetical one. To me, it is not the brain that produces thoughts, but the mind. The job of the brain is only to convey those thoughts to the body to act upon. Brain is nothing but a mediator between the mind and the body. It is merely a messenger, not an originator.
Zinnat, The difference between mind as an ‘entity’ and it’s function qua psychological process is, by logical extension minimal, if any. The brain, is an entity, inasmuch it is a physiological mass. The same thing can not be said of the mind. The mind consists of the brain’s functions, which are manifested by the psychological processes, without which the difference could not be made in the first place. Seeing a duality between brain and mind, brings in the epistemological duality, which has been denied by materialists. So, the question only resolves within an axiomatic of establishing an inductive proof, versus one of defining what implicates the definition. That’s all there is. it can go either way depending on either versions.
You can know something about psychology because - and only because - of your mind, spirit, or ghost (or however you want to call it in English), but never because of your psyche, soul, or even psychology.