The point is to examine the logic of Romans, a text that is taken as authoritative for the religion of a whole bunch of religious people.
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Nice try. I said nothing about your character.
Your argument here was similar to the argument you made for a special theology section. I haven’t asserted that my argument about a short passage in Romans 1 exhausts all there is to Paul or that religion is reducible to logic. You employed a straw man fallacy.
You said what you did as moderator is irrelevant to this discussion. Now it appears you wish to talk about it. It’s not a big deal to me either way.
Christians including Paul use arguments to persuade people to convert people to their religion. Examination of the arguments and methods used in preaching is all too relevant to the discussion of religion
Paul’s words are taken to be the Word Of God today. So his arguments are significant today not just 2000 years ago when the Church was a “new forming cultural community and identity.”
So existential stuff has to be transmitted irrationally? We have to exclude logical argument, philosophy and such? Music and painting are strictly irrational? They don’t have rational structure that is analogous to logic in anyway?
It was speaking in Paul.
You’re really keen on this notion aren’t you? Was Paul a raving lunatic because he was in the middle of religion? Christianity doesn’t think so. Why should we?
To repeat myself yet again, the issue is whether or not God is self evident.
Paul is invalid? Where did you get that? Is God self evident or not? People claim as much. Paul thought so. Are his arguments for it sound? If not are there sound arguments for it somewhere else?
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What’s agreed upon? anon’s the only one who seems to agree with me lately. One failed argument does not Paul illogical make. What are you talking about with the reference to removing other conversations?
It has to do with the condemnation of the human race according to Christianity on the basis of the self evidence of God.
That’s because you have moved on beyond as you said. You are apparently unaware that there are a lot of Christians who take Paul’s arguments seriously. “The Roman Road” based on Paul’s arguments is a common method of preaching the gospels. Christianity is still a growing religion. It’s very popular in America and has a lot of political clout. Have you ever heard of Rick Santorum?
No.
Yep you said it before, and I answered it before.
All that circumlocution and then you jump to the conclusion that Paul is invalid. I’m talking about one of Paul’s arguments not everything he ever said. Besides just because Paul’s argument may be invalid, it doesn’t follow that God is not self evident.