Interesting exchange I had on this video: youtube.com/watch?v=f8R0aS2FT54
There is some truth in that it is masculine to dominate and it is feminine to be dominated.
I would say men who penetretate (dominate) other men are more masculine (insofar as they don’t get penetrated themselves) than men who get penetrated (dominated) by women.
Khat, yes. Penetrating is masculine, being penetrated is feminine.
Han, tbh, I’d rather die than just do whatever a woman tells me to do just cause she has a gun. There are worse things than dying.
In reality there are masculine traits and behaviors and feminine traits and behaviors. Say an average man is 70% masculine, 30% feminine, while average woman is the other way around. Very few women will end up being more masculine than even average men, none will be more masculine than the high-end men, and the other way around. This is just biology.
What confuses things is that with modern technology men and women can alter their biological makeup to the point that a man can end up having more feminine traits than the average woman so that he is more feminine in everything except the fact that he has a dick, and even this can be “fixed”. Same for women, testosterone and steroids can make a woman stronger and more masculine than the average male. Every seen bodybuilding women who use these supplements? It’s not only their muscles that change, their entire body including the jaw begins taking on more masculine characteristics.
Yeah, I stand by what I said. Gay sex where you penetrate makes you more masculine than “hetero” sex where you are penetrated by a woman.
It is masculine to penetrate, it is feminine to be penetrated. It’s that simple.
I just want to note, the healthy ideal is that the male penetrates a female, and a female is penetrated by a male.
We’re talking about deviancy (gay sex) here. Just because something is deviant doesn’t make it non-masculine or non-feminine however.
Man A has sex with plenty of women whom he penetrates, then he is imprisoned for 20 years and during that time, he eventually gets thirsty enough and penetrates a feminine looking guy. After getting out of jail he continues only having sex with women whom he penetrates.
Man B also has sex with women, but he never penetrates them - instead, he prefers always to be the penetrated one. Also, the kind of women he prefers to penetrate him are those who look like “Buck Angel” (google it, still XX chromosome mate), and the women who penetrate him all do it with a cut-off male penis surgically attached to their body.
Which man is more masculine? Do you get my point about
- Why masculinity/femininity as traits are more important than chromosomes
and - Why penetrating is masculine and getting penetrated is feminine?
Khat, I’m fully aware of your point and still stand by what I said.
And I believe my thought experiment with men A and B proves I’m right.
Masculinity is essentially about dominating on a behavioral level, a masculine body on a physical level and testosterone on a biological level. Notice they’re all interconnected - in order to dominate one needs a strong body, to have a strong body one needs testosterone, and to have testosterone naturally one needs XY chromosomes (which technology/artifice can bypass). However none of this is magical, which is why technology can cause so much confusion by altering the biology which in turn alters physicality and behavior. So no, it really isn’t about much more than domination and testosterone.
The thing is, masculinity is about penetrating WOMEN but more fundamentally, it is about penetrating. To attempt to assign either “masculinity” or “femininity” to an act of penetrating men as a man deviates from the ultimate purpose both evolved for, but I still maintain it is more similar to masculinity, and getting pegged is more similar to femininity because of the penetration thing. That’s my final.