I’d never be Muslim because I wouldn’t fall for nonsense. I use my brain, not just my spine.
Intellectuals solve problems, geniuses never let them happen in the first place.
In the Middle East you are the terrorist (not Muslim). Terrorists are not intellectuals they spread hate.
Intellectuals and geniuses solve small problems but create large problems. The wise know how to solve and how to prevent all problems.
Yeah, i’m the terrorist for doing nothing… Which is the problem, they don’t let anyone else believe what they want to believe and so they kill them if they don’t believe what they do. You just supported my point.
No. Intellectuals solve and create problems. Geniuses/Wise prevent problems.
"Intellectuals solve problems, geniuses prevent them. "- Albert Einstein
I am sure Einstein knows what he’s talking about. I associate a genius with someone who is wise, an intellectual is just an intellectual. A genius without wisdom.
More precisely, it is obfuscation and extortion leading to a Comply or Die world.
There actually is a way to avoid it. But you do have to be able to clearly see it first.
… hence “philosophy”.
You do far more than nothing.
You voice your opinion.
He who has an opinion, has an enemy.
This is what Germans call “Biertisch philosophy” - beer-table philosophy. Some broad, sweeping generalizations based on prejudices are turned into a narrative that the teller finds attractive, such as you can listen to ad nauseam in every bar, pub and beergarden from California to Krakau.
Unfortunately the word “terrorist” has come to mean “anyone who scares us”, which is why the paranoid USA sees terrorists everywhere - intentional sense of insecurity (feigned terrorists) so as to create a locked down marshal state from which all signs of freedom can be freely removed and absolute power over all life established. Or so they have been hoping.
Do you think people deserve to die over an opinion or someone deserves to die for trying to kill someone who has one that is different than their own?
False security over freedoms. False because we all saw that guy who ran into the white house with ease. Some security.
Lol! That was probably an act, perpetuated by some kid, in need of some quick cash, in order that the White House Security people may get an increased allotment for it’s personnel. Nothing is ruled out.
That again clearly indicates that you know nothing about the purpose and methodology of the Quran. As i said before, right now i neither have time to go in the details nor you are able to grasp that because of your mindset. I am sorry to say but honestly speaking, I do not see you even worthy of that effort from my end either. But, i will like to have a word about the basics of the Quran and how it is different from all others religious texts.
The first think that one has to keep in the back of the mind all the times about Quran is that it was not a bestowed down upon Muhammad in one go. Quran was reveled in parts, just one verse at a time, and took 23 years to be completed. Whenever Prophet Muhammad faced any dilemma regarding any vertical of the life, a verse of Quran was bestowed to him in the night by angel Jabriel (Gabriel). That is how it worked. That is why Quran is not in the order but wayward. And, that is why it’s verses should neither be read verbatim nor considered as sweeping statements. They address only one particular situation, not all.
But, people like you put one line from anywhere and try to fit that where it does not belong. You still have to cover a long distance before you talk about the verses of Quran or even any other religious text.
with love,
sanjay
That is true.
with love,
sanjay
This thread has totally missed the point.
First of all, you have to know who is fighting in the coming war.
You won’t have a Moslem vs the west type of war because who exactly would be fighting?
Terrorist? At most, at most, you have maybe 2 or 3 thousand Islamic extremist and they clearly
are well funded but they don’t have the technology or expertise to inflict any real damage on
the western countries. If you think about it, 9/11 was not that much damage to the US. It was
our massive overreaction to 9/11 that created far more problems than 9/11 ever caused.
The terrorist simply don’t have the abilities or tools to create any real or lasting damage to the west.
I doubt they will ever get a atom bomb for the simple reason the countries that have the bomb
don’t trust the terrorists enough to give them the bomb because of the fear the terrorist might use
the bomb on the country that give it to them. continue to dismantle the terrorist but don’t fear
the small and pathetic attacks the terrorists have available to them. You have a far better chance of
being hit by a meteorite then suffering injuries in a terrorist attack. These terrorists and their attacks
are just not meaningful and important enough to waste our time on. so Islam is not going to be part
of the coming war, who is? Part 2 coming.
Kropotkin
So what you’re saying is that it was for one event and in that one event that had happened ‘long ago’ it was ok to cut off heads and finger nails, correct? How is that any different from the Christian crusades and forced converting/slaughter of pagans in Rome. I don’t care how long ago it was in all honesty or what event, you don’t need to cut heads and fingers off. Oh, and you say it was so long ago right? So then why is it happening again today in this time and era, wasn’t it a few months ago that someone had their heads cut off?
I don’t care if you think I am worthy or not of your religious ideals, not like I plan on adopting them as my own anyways. I am non-religious for the reason that it’s all violent manipulation, coercion, obligation, fear(terror).
I agree that the US overreacted with 9/11 and that it only made things worse. I disagree that a meteor striking and killing people is more likely than a terrorist attack, what wasn’t it like a week or two ago that France got attacked? Who’s next?
I don’t think they are much of a threat either. Who knows who will be involved in the war, but as Einstein said. We don’t know what WW3 will be fought with, but WW4 will be fought with sticks and stones. They don’t need an atom bomb, if they were smart all they have to do is sneak into a country and target a reactor/power plant, blow it up and boom. There you go.
The coming war will be wars involving resources such as water, oil, food and climate change.
That is where your future war is coming. Due to climate change, countries will have a reduced
areas to grow food and such shortages will cause massive famines. This will lead to wars where
countries try to take other countries food growing areas. The shortage of drinking water will
lead to other wars. The need for energy will lead to other wars. The coming century will be known
as “the wars for resources”. As I see the United states being pretty secure in resources right now,
maybe climate change will cause us to contemplate a war or two but that as of now is unknown.
My guess as of right now would be areas of smaller countries where food and water shortages cause
them to invade other countries, so perhaps Europe, South America, and Asia would be the areas
that will have wars for resources. I would say by 2030 and I picked that year on purpose.
I believe by 2030 the crisis in several different areas will converge and cause a great deal of
problems. The population growth, climate change, overall pollution rates will along with
systematic capitalism issues will converge to create an overall planetary crisis. Look to 2030
as the years where mankind makes the decisions to live or die. If we don’t create an overall
change as a species, I believe we don’t make it as a species. I suspect if nothing else changes,
humans are gone by 2100. Between the wars and the coming pandemics and the climate changes,
humans cannot survive or said correctly, change enough, adapt enough we don’t make it. the real war isn’t
about nations vs nations, but the war will be between those who want to adapt and change and those who
who fear change and by delaying long enough, help destroy the human race. The naysayers and negative
nellies are the ones who will bring about the end of the human race.
Kropotkin
Peter Kropotkin: This thread has totally missed the point.
First of all, you have to know who is fighting in the coming war.
You won’t have a Moslem vs the west type of war because who exactly would be fighting?
Terrorist? At most, at most, you have maybe 2 or 3 thousand Islamic extremist and they clearly
are well funded but they don’t have the technology or expertise to inflict any real damage on
the western countries. If you think about it, 9/11 was not that much damage to the US. It was
our massive overreaction to 9/11 that created far more problems than 9/11 ever caused.
The terrorist simply don’t have the abilities or tools to create any real or lasting damage to the west.
I doubt they will ever get a atom bomb for the simple reason the countries that have the bomb
don’t trust the terrorists enough to give them the bomb because of the fear the terrorist might use
the bomb on the country that give it to them. continue to dismantle the terrorist but don’t fear
the small and pathetic attacks the terrorists have available to them. You have a far better chance of
being hit by a meteorite then suffering injuries in a terrorist attack. These terrorists and their attacks
are just not meaningful and important enough to waste our time on. so Islam is not going to be part
of the coming war, who is? Part 2 coming.
Art: I agree that the US overreacted with 9/11 and that it only made things worse. I disagree that a meteor striking and killing people is more likely than a terrorist attack, what wasn’t it like a week or two ago that France got attacked? Who’s next?
K: and it doesn’t matter who get attacks, think about it. 16 people died in Paris, and if nothing else changes
that is the number of all that will be attacked. You can have an attack killing a thousand and so what? Given the numbers, that is how many people died of colds this winter. A thousand deaths in a (U.S) population is nothing because we have over 300 million people. Put the attacks in context both with numbers and damage. A thousand deaths is nothing, that is less than .01 percent of Americans. Wipe out a city block and so what? A city block is nothing, we condemn more than that every day. The truth is we blow these events, way, way, way out of proportion. The terrorist are simply flies, who buzz about and we damage more trying to swat these flies than the flies actually damage. They are annoying pests, nothing more, so don’t treat them like they are something more.
ART: I don’t think they are much of a threat either. Who knows who will be involved in the war, but as Einstein said. We don’t know what WW3 will be fought with, but WW4 will be fought with sticks and stones. They don’t need an atom bomb, if they were smart all they have to do is sneak into a country and target a reactor/power plant, blow it up and boom. There you go.
K: and you are once again, giving them far more credit than they deserve. Of course, we understand they
might target a power plant and we simply protect it. The terrorist have shown themselves to be
actually pretty dumb. Like criminals, terrorists are not very smart. You don’t have to fear criminals,
because we know from personal experience, the chances of having a criminal attacking you is small.
Few if any people change their behavior because they might get mugged or robbed. You simple
exercise some basic caution and it is rare that something happens. You go about your life. Simple as that.
We just need to go about our life and exercise basic caution, that is it. Nothing more.
Kropotkin
Sounds exactly like Secular Humanism (now Socialism). 
IMO, Artimas’ listing of quotes referring to violence in the Quran is a fair presentation;
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Note the explanations given beside the actual verses therein.
At present I am providing some time to reread the Quran with a finer-toothed comb. The Quran and Ethos of Islam are partly to be blamed for the significant and critical evils committed by SOME Muslims currently.
A part [not the whole] of the basic ethos of Islam is antagonism and aggression toward non-believers.
Thus whether the verses directly or indirectly condone violence on non-believers, SOME evil prone Muslims will be influenced to commit evils on non-believers. e.g. ISIS, Boko Haram, Al Qaeda and others who quoted the said verses to justify their evil acts.
ISIS and the likes will insist they are following Allah’s will in accordance to what they interpret from the Quran, Hadiths and Sunnah. Since there is no central authority within the Muslim community, who is to decide what is right or wrong.
Why the negative aspects of Islam is so dangerous is because it only take a few Muslims (out of 1.5 billion) to create terrible evil to humanity. Recently it was only 3! Muslims (with some support from elsewhere) to create so much havoc and evil in Paris.
Islam [whilst useful for many] is like a mad chicken running around without a head and that is why Islam [partly] has an element of malignant potential to humanity in the future.
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You would be better off using your “fine tooth comb” to sort the “evils” of Marxism.
Wisely put Sanjay.