As a panpsychist I believe that the rarity and privilege of my experiential transformation from typical matter into a human is literally unimaginable. In fact, I think my miraculous existential fortune should be justified by something other than “it just is that way”. My question is what you think this justification might possibly be, or why you think “it just is that way” suffices.
Could it be the other way around? That is, as consciousness you have always existed and shall never die. Could it be that your present body was born and will die according to the principles of biology and the law of karma?
There is no substance, just distance and time. Distance and time were never created and can’t be destroyed. Distance and time are inevitable so there need not be an explanation. The universe is simply made of distance and time.
If you keep breaking substance down to find what it’s made of you will break it down so far and find it’s made of motion, which is simply distance and time. Hard to wrap your head around that but it’s true.
To be honest I don’t understand what you’re saying or how it relates to my question. Could you elaborate maybe?
That’s an interesting theory I haven’t heard before, but just humor me and try to answer my question under the assumption that panpsychism is more or less correct.
It’s the justification for “it’s just that way” that you asked for. Distance and time is “it’s just that way.”
There is no alternative to infinite distance in every direction. It’s just that way.
It may be a misconception based on tunnel vision to formulate oddity, but the thing is reductions of this kinds , (to absurdity) may have rational explanation beyond the scope available at this time.
All for one , one for all is the shell into which compassionate oversight has been apparently been assumed to be omitted, since it has no use to make any kind of difference, : NOW.
However responsible technicians of the highest kind assume and have proven that to be a misnomer, lives, fortunes and other indiscernibles are at stake, and the most probable signs that point to the directions taken , are not conclusive, as a matter of fact a day to day reapplied changing field defies the laws of probability!
Oh, forgot, Dogbert welcome !
The justification could be that matter is evolving into a higher mode of consciousness.
Which is a true statement, but matter is made of distance and time. It is distance and time that is evolving into spectacular beings over great spans of time.
Of course life is driving the complexity of consciousness, but that doesn’t justify why I should find myself at the current peak of complexity as opposed to being among the overwhelming mass of vastly simpler conscious beings.
A physical human can be brain dead.
A person does not need to be physically human. There needs to be a medium, but it doesn’t matter what it is.
Are you asking “How does life come from nonlife?” or “How does personal come from nonpersonal?”
It doesn’t.
Are you or are you not a panpsychist? Does your question not amount to “Why does something exist rather than nothing?” Are you asking about the how or the why?
Something that we observe about machines… mechanics… is that they don’t happen unless they are designed by living persons. Interestingly enough, they are usually designed to do what living persons can do (so, in our image), except without our limitations. And yet they have their own limitations we don’t have. So far. So far as we know.
Why do humans have children? Why do humans try to convince each other about anything? To share joy. Mutual consent recognition. To multiply the good stuff. If it ain’t for those reasons, it’s crap.
Got any resources for a curious person to read more on this topic?
If you’re going to talk about infinite distance & time, shouldn’t that include eternally subsumed “mile markers“ or “standard candles“ or “landmarks”? Or a way of treating every “least reducible point/whole” as the origin/destination?
Stray thought:
If there are no Wednesdays, then there is no 9:00 PM on 6/26/24—especially not one that never changes even after your kid corrects you with “It’s 9:01”.
and is that 9:00 PM or is that
basically whatever you do with pi when it never ends after the decimal … a constant :00 repeating
or is it governed by (in the same structure as) something “material” and irreducibly great?
what if we understood the regularities/patterns of nature in such a way that distinguishes between A) substance (physical/programmed versus spiritual/self-directed), B) essence/properties, & C) existence/action?
If we get to the root upon which all programs are built … what do they describe? This:
Doesen’t the solution to that problem is set to have driven one of the most noteable mathematical philosophers off the deep end?
(might be off this one, and if I am not, then wouldn’t an ascending upward schematic patterns save the re-progression of a newer enlightenment save the day?
Or is the game of marbles a necessary extension…
? bow-wow?
Why aren’t you naming them?
I would play marbles with someone who had them…to lend me.
Forever.
I honestly can’t recollect
Already proved that by the reductive absurdity of not recollecting for principles later down by Leibnitz
Just did recollect-Cantor
Am I playing a game or, ‘they’ are playing with me?
(The stakes are way too high at this point to quit playing now, in fact it’s beginning to look like the Chinese box version of Pandora.
What?
( I couldn’t have just said that)
(( on searc, Cantir’s paradise -some kind of members’ only collection broadly related)
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Chalmers, Penrose and Searle on the (Implicit) Platonism and Dualism of Algorithmic AI
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Top: David Chalmers and John Searle. Bottom: Roger Penrose
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The Intuition behind Infinity— Stepping into Cantor’s Paradise
Is that curious person you so that you can judge what to think based on how famous that person is? You need to hear it from some celebrity before you know what to think?
Anyway, no I do not have any resources, I thought of it all by myself.