LOL I just asked you to clarify something, politely.
If you do not want to clarify your own words, then so be it.
It is literally nothing off Me.
Ask this infallible mind if there is a way to use the words someone uses without using that other person.
You confuse the content of your sentences with the complete pattern of relation. You don’t realize that the pattern of relation has messages. I mean, that’s understandable: you’re a user.
So what?
And obviously it would. Considering your views and beliefs here.
Once more, this one has completely gone astray and off track.
What?
There is only One Mind, and this cannot be refuted.
See how I just ask this one to explain what the word ‘belongs’ means to it, it then, once again, deflects and just says, “ belong” is a better expression, for now “, instead.
Again, I do not assume this. When I have the irrefutable proofs and facts already I do not have to assume. One day you might comprehend and understand this, another, irrefutable fact.
Once again, what one actually means can sometimes be seen within the lines and/or behind the words, although people like these two are not yet savvy to this fact.
you two can “justify” absolutely anything to yourselves. But, this never makes what you “justified” to be what is actually irrefutably True and Right, obviously.
You assume there is One Mind but you can’t prove it.
I explained what it could mean and why it’s better for now. You’re already assuming that there is an irrefutable One Mind, even though you’ve done nothing to prove it, I’m not making that assumption.
You assume that you have the irrefutable proofs and facts but you don’t, hence an assumer and a liar.
You’re half right here. You keep assuming that we mean things absolutely, because you project your own psychology on us. We can read between the lines and see that this is your error, not ours.
Again, I just asked you to clarify something, politely.
And again, you failed absolutely to clarify. The End.
No, you didn’t ‘just’ ask. It is part of a pattern of toxic interaction. I did not fail. I refused. You failed to get what you wanted.
Clarification is often a very fine part of a discussion, but when dealing with someone who wants to use people, it becomes something else.
Your refusal to just provide a clear open and honest answer means that you FAILED as a human being. I agree, I failed to get the clarity that I was seeking.
Again, I did ‘just’ ask. I just asked, politely, “if that is a so-called “poor interpretation” of ‘your words’, then what is the actual true and right interpretation of your words exactly?”
Again, you did not want to be open and honest here. Which, by the way, is the True Nature of being a human being. So, again, ‘you’ failed, and in doing so you have again provided more irrefutable proof, for me.
And, if you want to call, asking politely questions for clarity sake, “toxic interaction”, then so be it. I certainly do not see things ‘the way’ that you do.
Does it?
What does it become, exactly?
Observe how it crawls away whenever the One Mind God-psychosis is challenged. Even tough it’s an assumption the size of Mount Everest.
Part of being used by someone with no respect for the people here. You see us as a means to an end. I do understand that you do not see that as toxic. I understand, perhaps because of your condition, that you don’t understand how context affects specific acts. All you are showing future generations is how people react to someone who does not respect them at a fundamental level.
Not that they will be interested in this conversation.
I understand that you see yourself as a special person and think that people in the future will recognize your proof and accomplishments here. This is a creative solution, since run-of-the-mill narcissists will often not get what they want from people around them in the present. This ideal respect and admiration from the future can never let you down. You ‘know’ how they will react. And if we react negatively to your disrespect, this can only be our own problem, in this narcissism. Non-narcissists would see that reacting negatively to your fundamental attitude of disrespect is a sign of health. But your reaction comes with the pattern.
I understand that you see no problem treating people as mere means.
I see that you think somehow this will not get felt and noticed by the people you interact with.
I understand that because you do not respect humans, you do not see yourself beholden to an equal standard.
Online it is very hard to know if this is a desperate pattern, as it is with many narcissists, and if underneath you still feel, on some level, the horrors of whatever emotional and other abuse you went through, or if there is a more sociopath-like pattern involved.
Which makes it tricky dealing with you. The abused narcissist can feel hurt and online this is very easy to hide. The likelihood of letting go of these patterns is very low, but at least possible for the abused narcissist. With the sociopath, there’s no need to worry about adding to the pain, they can easily deny any criticism and actually they don’t really care, unless there is a practical downside.
But just to be clear, I am not a means to your ends, obviously. Sometimes this needs to be said formally. And regardless of how much judgment and disrespect you show, I have no interest in complying with you.
What do you imagine I am “crawling” away from exactly?
There is nothing I have said about One Mind that has been challenged.
Again, “greenfuse” makes a claim, again I just asked a polite question regarding what does ‘clarification’ become exactly, but again no clarification is provided.
its first sentence shows that it did not even understand the question.
Here is your claim again. See if you can notice how your reply does not answer my question.
Where is this presumption and belief that there is ‘no respect’ coming from exactly?
I know already. I just want to see if you also know, and if you will be open and honest with us here.
So what?
There is not necessarily anything wrong with that at all. In fact, if the ‘end’ benefits all future people, through the use of some, then there is absolutely nothing wrong at all with that.
Okay, that’s great.
Considering that there is absolutely nothing toxic about that at all, it is totally understandable that you understand that I do not see that as toxic.
What is ‘my condition’, which you talk of and about here, exactly?
I understand that you do not yet even know the context, let alone the specific acts.
I hope you already answered and clarified where this Truly distorted presumption and belief of yours that I am not respecting you at any level is coming from.
Again, I already know, and if you know, show future generations that you also know.
Also, why do you believe, absolutely, that “all I am showing” future generations is how you people react, (to something that is not even true), when there are other things that I am showing as well?
Okay.
LOL, LOL, LOL
“You see yourself a special”. If only it knew.
You seem to keep forgetting that it is ‘you’ who is providing ‘the proof’, ‘for me’. Therefore, it is not '“my proof”.
Well, it certainly is not my ‘problem’, as I have already shown and proved.
But you obviously missed and/or misunderstood this point as well.
Now we have a conclusion, which it believes, which was based upon multiple assumptions on top of other assumptions. And, all before seeking clarification ever came to thought.
This is very clear, and confirmed by the very words I have used.
Absolutely Wrong, again. You really do “see” some of the most outrageous things here.
I specifically spelled it out with words that this is exactly what I am doing. I am hoping it gets felt and noticed by you people. In fact, I thought it was blatantly obvious and that all of those who read my words would feel and notice it.
Once more, we have another prime example of while one is believing something is true they are not open to anything opposing the belief, even when the actual, irrefutable Truth is what is the very thing opposing the belief.
This one also still believes, absolutely, its own presumption is true, although it never sought out any clarity at first.
“as it is with many narcissists”, LOL
Again, this here is another prime example of what one believes to be absolutely true, being, to some hidden, behind their words, but what can be clearly seen by others.
The rest of what you wrote is just your own projection, as well as you lumping assumption upon assumpton of yours and then concluding and believing that to be true.
LOL Even here its devilish and wanting to be deceptive is clear.
Just be open, honest, and curious, then there is nothing to “deal with”.
LOL Looking for ways to “deal with another” is a sure sign that this one has a lot more to learn and understand ‘about others’, and “itself”.
Absolute projection, again.
Once again, I DO NOT WANT TO LET GO OF ‘THE WAY’ I COMMUNICATE HERE.
AGAIN, I AM COMMUNICATING ‘THE WAY’ I AM FOR VERY SPECIFIC REASONS. SO, I HAVE NO INTENTION OF LETTING GO NOR CHANGING ‘THE WAY’ I COMMUNICATE HERE.
I wonder it can read this, hear it, and comprehend and understand this.
It now looks like we have another one who likes to think that it is a psychologist here.
LOL You have already been.
Of course, you might want to believe otherwise, but it is already too late
Say it any way you like as as often as you like, again, you are too late.
Again, too late.
Also, I don’t need your compliance for me to use you. You are already doing exactly what I wanted anyway.
I love the creepy B-movie villain voice. It is also more honest, thank you. And thank you for saying that when you use people you don’t need compliance. Like some Nazi-torturer in the B-movie. Presenting yourself more honestly cuts through all the you know the way to peace and harmony. I hope, for Ken’s sake, that he notices what he’s become.
Why can you only look at and see ‘evil’ here?
Again, people with beliefs and assumptions will only see what they want to see.
LOL, LOL, LOL
This one still believes what it does and still only sees what it wants to.
I have presented more or less the exact same things since the outset.
Again, I am using these people so that ‘you’, people of the future, know exactly what to do and what not to do, so that everyone can live together in peace and in harmony, as One.
So, nothing changed here at all.
I do feel sorry for Ken. He might have found his way to love in the present with living people.
This greenfuse has a bad temper, like a sports teacher taking a geography class.
And yes, a false accusation defaults on the accuser (“Narcissist”?)
By the way, it is duly noted that to the materialist, the concept of numbers, and for that matter, identity (mathematics), is irreconcilable with reality, and hence the materialist must always say “these are not real”.
Yet when pressed on “sentiment” i.e. intellection, products of the human mind, the materialist says these have basis in matter.
Yes, we had an unpleasant interaction, you and I. So, it might be appealing to think I am just tossing out an insult. I suggest you have a discussion with anew and keep with it until you disagree - which won’t take long - and see if it is exactly like talking to a narcissist.
Or you can just go by his own self-description: He knows infallibly what is True and Real. He has the solutions to all the important problems. He is here to use us to prove his claims to future generations. He considers us humans, but he, on the other hand is The Mind.
So, we have an entity who considers himself infallible, who can has the solution to all the important problems, using us (his choice of verb) to demonstrate things to future generations.
And quotes for all that can easily be found and are present in this thread above. In what sense is narcissist a stretch?
Some quotes:
Also, I don’t need your compliance for me to use you. You are already doing exactly what I wanted anyway.
Have you SERIOUSLY FORGOTTEN ALREADY that I USE ‘you’, peoples, in the days of when this is being written, to PROVE my CLAIMS are True to ‘future generations’?
Once more, I am not here in philosophy forums to justify my claims and assertions.
I may be a very simple person but seeing and understanding all of ‘life’s’ so called problems, and answers is really rather easy. I can see and understand why every person is the way they are and why they do the things they do.
All of you here are in a cult, but since none of you even recognise which cult that is, you do not even realise that you are in a cult.
Which means he knows you are in a cult. Not thinks you are. Knows.
I asked him: Are you infallible when it comes to knowing what is True and Real?
Anew1: Yes, and this is just because of the formula I have and the process I use.
I don’t even have to interpret. He’s textbook.
But, again, the real test is in the interaction. He’s sure you are in a cult. I recommend a discussion of that issue. If you do that, come back and tell me I am wrong about him being a narcissist. I will certainly listen to your arguments on that topic.