Well, okay it does seem a bit like some people are a pretzel, all coiled on themselves and so making infinite journeys witin themselves, we see this a lot on bulletin boards where 2D screen space kind of acts as a salve to the mulitidimensionally hypercoiled.
I do not know where you get these conclusions from. Let me try to clarify some things for you:
Sentiments: they are related with brain activity. Whenever you have a sentiment, brain scanners and MRI detect the effects. You have agreed at least on that before.
Numbers: concepts that have been developed by human intellect. Very useful tools for understanding the world that surrounds us.
I can add also imagination: an activity also related to human brain functionality.
The sentiments are related with how our brain interacts with the surrounding environment. The numbers are a tool, produced by human brain, that allow us to understand better the cosmos. Imagination is another functionality of the brain which permits to āseeā things that are not necessarily tangible.
Conclusion: all of these are related with brain functionality. Given that the brain is physical, the question is if its products remain physical or not.
You, as religious person, want to connect these with metaphysical explanations.
I, as materialist, consider all of these natural processes, arising from my brain, which is made out of matter.
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As l said before: these are downstream manifestations of what happens beyond the material plane. Google AI sums it up nicely (though l probably summed it up nicely too? I hope):
Note: While scientists can map these patterns, it is not currently like reading a video of someoneās inner life, but rather detecting objective, localized neural signatures of emotions. [1, 2, 3, 4]
Thank you, considering that what youāve said about the One Mind, has been challenged all this time, and you had zero answer to that, weāve observed a perfect example of ācrawling awayā.
Yes āgreenfuseā is literally exactly like āthat teacherā when āstudentsā question and challenge them on their beliefs, but they just cannot back up and substantiate their claim/s.
Imagine if I asked this one to define what it means by āloveā exactly?
And, how do you know, for sure, that I have not what you call, āfound my loveā with all people, in all ages, already?
Again, what are you basing your current belief on, exactly?
Watch, no actual answers and so no clarification will be provided to these questions, once again.
Oh, Ken. I did back it up. Ageās assertions are narcissistic and easy to quote. How could Age, Ken, not understand what happens when Age tells Mr. Cat he is in a cult. And yet he grabs for allies.
Over 8 years ago, Ken, Age had already said many, many times that people had proven his claims about humans at this time. Thousands of posts later he is still proving this which has already been proven. Age is like a parasitic meme and he is not helping you, the empty admiration of future generations a mere fantasy.
How common is this theme, you having āunpleasant interactionsā with others?
Maybe you have āpleasant interactionsā with others when you talk āabout othersā with someone, but how often are your interactions āpleasantā when you disagree with what another is saying?
Do you think it is not obvious when you are putting out insults?
Of course, this never means that your insults result in actually being insulting to āthe otherā, but that you toss them out is pretty obvious.
Again, projection, along with, as I pointed out above, when āgreenfuseāsā beliefs do not agree with othersā views or beliefs, then it becomes a so-called āunpleasant interactionā, of which it will be āthe otherā who is the so-called ānarcissistā
LOL āgreenfuseā, still, even after all of this time, got to the actual Truth, and so spreads its own Wrong assumptions and False beliefs as though they are laughably what is true and right.
Again, I will suggest you obtain actual clarity before you start sharing your current beliefs and presumptions, that way you can tell the Truth, instead of spreading Falsehoods and lies.
Once more, if you had only obtained clarification first, you might not keep spreading things that are clearly untrue.
You obviously do not yet know the answer to, āWho am āIā?ā so you are still unaware of what is happening and occuring here.
People can and are used all the time while being completely unaware.
As for the rest of those quotes, āgreenfuseā just believes, absolutely, that they are false and wrong, which is what led to it never seeking out clarification, and why it keeps jumping to False and Wrong conclusions. Which it then also believes to be absolutely true.
What āgreenfuseā is doing here is a prime example of APE-thinking. Which, again, āgreenfuseā is proving, without a shadow of a doubt, what I have said about APE-thinking itself.
As I have said before, if you know, you know. And, if you donāt, you donāt.
And, what is happening and occuring here, is written proof of what more or less happened and occured when just one individual you knew that the earth revolved around the sun, they knew. Although when everyone else didnāt, they didnāt.
Instead of those people being open and honest and just curious, what those who ādidnāt knowā did, was try and insult, ridicule, discredit, and shut āthe oneā who knew off from speaking and being heard.
LOL, LOL, LOL
So, instead of just having a discussion, on that issue, you laughably recommended a discussion of that issue.
LOL I was discussing āthat topicā. But, as can be clearly seen, you believed and presumed some things, which you just could not shake nor let go. LOL you certainly could not back up and support your beliefs and presumptions.
You just wanted to be ārightā, instead of seek out what the actual Truth was there.
This one believes, so much, that āI am a narcissistā, and that it is only when another starts telling it āabout meā not being a narcissist is when it will start listen to āargumentsā.
LOL it will not look at and listen to proof and facts, it will only look at or listen to āargumentsā of all things.
Ken, if you can still hear for yourself in there, ask yourself if this really sounds like someone confident in their knowledge? Is this how they would act? When this voice first came, I am sure it came with some truths, but after all this time, what life has it brought you? I know you mentioned abuse, long ago, as Ken. It was in general this reference. But perhaps this included you. Is all Ageās defensiveness getting you where you would like to be?
Being ārelatedā does not mean that it āisā.
So, what is sentiment exactly that you are implying here?
Maybe so. But, numbers were certainly not needed in understanding exactly what the Universe is made up of nor of how the Universe works exactly.
And, how the brain, and also the Mind for that matter, work exactly, and how they interact with human brains surrounding environment is related to sentiments is also already known.
Now, would you like to clarify what it is exactly that you are trying to imply with this sentence and claim of yours here?
you made this same claim just above, but claiming it again does not make it more real.
Yes, numbers were a tool to help some better understand the cosmos or the Universe if you like.
But, again, they were certainly not needed to fully understand the cosmos nor the Universe, if you prefer
The exact opposite could be the actual irrefutable Truth. But, considering you appear to believe otherwise, I will leave you with your belief.
Basing āa conclusionā on nothing other than oneās own made-up assumptions or beliefs, is really not wise.
What is more wise is obtaining actual irrefutable facts and proof first, and then make conclusions. That way the conclusion could never ever be False nor Wrong.
This is something we may never ever know. You people will, obviously, have to spend far more time on coming-to-agreement on definitions, before you even get close to answering this question.
Again,
- To be a so-called āmaterialistā is impossible.
- you are both āreligious peopleā.
- you speak as though āmetaphysical explanationsā are an absolute impossibility.
- There is obviously not a single thing in the whole Universe, including the whole Universe, Itself, which are not natural processes.
- A brain being obviously made up of matter does not instantly infer nor mean that natural processes, arising from the brain, nor āthatā, which is produced by the brain, is made of matter.
- Also, a person who religiously believes that absolutely everything is material, and thus has a āmaterialistā belief is certainly not open to looking at and seeing what is actually True and Right in Life. Does like every other āreligious personā, while they have (religious) beliefs also does not have this capability. As I keep pointing out, and showing and proving above, by peopleās words and claims here.
Are you betting that there was a time when Age/Ken wasnāt naturally āevilā?
LOL They still cannot see that just because they believe something is true, that āthatā in and of itself is NOT a challenge.
LOL you instantly dismissing absolutely every thing I say and write regarding the One and only Mind is NOT challenging at all.
Prove the One Mind (and your version of it) and I wonāt dismiss what you write, Iāll accept it. Oh you canāt do that. Then donāt complain 
I think narcissism is an attempt to protect the self. (or you could call Age a parasitic batch of memes that took over Ken). But it never allows that person to actually deal with what theyāve experienced. They never have a genuine relationships. The can never get what they really want. And they have to keep putting people down. The defensiveness never ends. Etc.
But this is a charitable read. And likely it is way too late to matter. But Iāll address Ken for a bit. Ken will likely never respond. Never admit that yes, under the LOLs and superiority and messianistic claims, narcissistic wounds and rage get triggered with some regularity.
Thatās the garden variety narcissism imo, not the NPD. NPD (Trump for example) starts in early childhood and those creatures never develop a conscience so there is no one there to save because there never was anyone there. Itās one of the toughest lectures in life, it means we are in hell right now.
LOL you seem to speak of one thing only when you use the āitā word.
Also, let us not forget how many times when you use words like āitā or āthatā you are not necessarily even being close to being specific. For example, I was pointing to an uncountable number of claims, yet āgreenfuseā replies with, āOh, Ken, I did back āitā upā.
I wonder if āgreenfuseā thinks or believes that absolutely anyone in the whole Universe, besides itself, knows what the āitā word here was in reference to exactly.
Being easy to quote assertions has no bearing nor necessary any relation to being ānarcissisticā at all.
LOL Once again, this one is assuming and/or believing that I do not understand some supposed āhappeningā, jumps to the conclusion that I do not, and then asks some Truly absurd question about not understanding āsome happeningā, which it only alludes to, but never specifies at all.
Who is, supposedly, grabbing for allies?
Again, you, NOT me, are proving my claims True.
Which means just about every time you talk and write here, you are continually proving my claims.
Can you really not yet see that even though you had already proved my claims True previously, with and by your own written words, that when you keep writing and replying to me, you can still be proving my words and claims True?
Are you talking to anyone in particular here, or just generally and to lots of people?
Also, again thank you for sharing what you believe to be absolute or partly true.
Spreading your beliefs here are, again, backing up, supporting, and proving my claims to be absolutely True, Right, Accurate, and/or Correct.
Iām aware of this type. Iāve had some run-ins. I donāt assume thereās a hurt Ken in there.
Ken, the defensive superiority loop is still running. Ken if you ever want to step out of this pattern and have a real conversation, let me know. Youāre the one whose already typed well over 30,000 posts for this entity. You could perhaps ask him if there will ever be an end. Or if you will have to type more LOL based posts for another 8 years, never quite getting enough proof to feel it is finished. You could then perhaps do something fulfilling, try to make a friend you consider an equal, get a life as they say. It would likely bring up fear, sure. But this endless loop, always having to show that you really were infallible after all, always finding ways to give the other people the onus to prove something. Always having to have this mask of āOh, I am so confident, nothing touches me, I never get angry.ā I donāt think the loop can stop itself, Ken.
LOL, It comes from absolutely Knowing.
Also, if you can still hear āgreenfuseā, If you know, you know. But, if you donāt, you donāt.
Imagine what āthe oneā who was informing everyone else that the actual irrefutable fact and Truth is - the earth revolves around the sun - was also doing, within, when everyone else was saying and doing what they were doing.
If you did start imagining, what were some of the things that āthat oneā could have, also, been doing.
See, once you know, and others do not, one of the things those who know do, is LISTEN to what others are actually saying, and then respond.
What is āthis voiceā which you speak of, and maybe hear, exactly?
How can āyouā be āsureā that āitā came with some truths? What are you basing this sureness of yours on exactly?
I do not understand your question, āWhat life has it brought you?ā
Maybe if you provide some examles of, What life has āthis voiceā brought you, precisely, then I will be better able to answer āyour questionā here.
Will you do this, or do you prefer not to?
Okay.
Perhaps it was, perhaps it was not.
Perhaps it was in reference to your clearly abusive upbringing. But, then again, perhaps it was not as well.
I could not be any better situated than where I am right now.
I also could not be any more content, happier, and satisfied where I am right now. I am perfectly positioned right HERE, right NOW. And, thank you for asking.
By the way, what is this ādefensivenessā that you are presuming and believing here exactly.
you speak of it as though it actually exists and thus is an actual truth, so surely you can provide some examples, which us readers can then take a look at, right?
Always protecting itself with non-assertions, Ken, that you have to type. Always doing things it is critical of others for doing and so having yet another thing to deny. Itās a lot of work Ken.
It comes from absolutely Knowing.
When not in dialogue with others Ken, when not communicating online where there is no body language, no tones of voice, not pauses or stutters, does it actually feel confident to be Ken now? Yes, yes, Age can assert anything about you, how great it is and he has this absolute knowing. But when you are with actual humans, if this happens, in their physical presence, how does it actually feel?
What Age can assert online as words on a screen, we both know that means very little.