A question to an honest (= Materialist) Atheist

  • Have a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents).

  • Be preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love, put off to the future.

  • Believe that they are “special” and can only be understood by other special or high-status people. [future generations]

  • Require excessive admiration. [and since it is not here, then this has to come from somewhen else]

  • Have a sense of entitlement (i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment). [expect others to do what it does not think they needs to]

  • Use others to achieve his or her own ends.

  • Lack empathy: or is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others.

  • Is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of them.

  • Show arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes.

Will you show us that you even know what the so-called “my version” of the One Mind even is first?

Obviously, one cannot prove “a version” of something until they first KNOW what “that version” even is.

  1. Well, this is just AS STUPID as saying something like, I will not accept it. Why would anyone say that they will ‘accept’ something BEFORE they have even heard it?

  2. If something is proven, then you would just have to ‘accept’ it no matter what, anyway.

  3. The issue we have now is, what will ‘accept’ as proof? In fact, will proof ever even be ‘accepted’ by one who believes otherwise?

    LOL, LOL, LOL

LOL, LOL, LOL

Again, thank you profusely for sharing with us what you currently believe is the absolute truth. you have, once more, just proved my claims and assertions irrefutably True and Right, once again.

Imagine being THAT STUPID to put in writing, “Prove [such and such}, and then I will accept it”, but then immediately qualify this by, “Oh you can’t prove that”.

Talk about providing us with the clearest example of:

Telling us that you are absolutely completely closed off, without actually telling us in Honest words.

you have, once again, shown us what you believe to be the absolute truth.

But, this will not stop you from trying to complain about how you, supposedly, do not believe things absolutely.

LOL you could not have provided any more irrefutable proof that you do. Although you will laughably provide more, for me, and for us.

I said prove it, it’s not MY job to explain what YOUR theory is exactly and how it’s proven. More “crawling away”.

‘After’ proving it isn’t ‘before’ proving it. This is some God-tier “crawling away”.

Something philosophically sound and scientifically supported, not contradicted, will do. More “crawling away”.

I don’t have absolute beliefs. More “crawling away”.

And we’ve shown that Age can’t prove it, just like it never could, all Age can do is crawl away every single time. Truly pathetic.

you could, that is; if you really wanted to.

I wonder if either of these two class calling another “a parasite” is ‘evil’ in nature or not?

Does this knowing come from personal experience?

As it is said, one has to have personal experience to know something for sure.

How exactly do you know, for sure, that ‘narcissism’ never ever allows you to actually deal with what you’ve experienced “iwannaplato”?

Have you “greenfuse/iwannaplato” had genuine relationships?

If yes, then who with exactly? Will they back up and support this claim of yours here?

If no, then why not?

But, if yes, are you absolutely sure?

Again, do you know this for sure, and was it from personal experience?

Have you gotten what you really want?

In fact, do you even know, for sure, what ‘it’ is that you really want?

(By the way, I know, for sure, what ‘it’ is that ‘you’ really do want. I also know, for sure, that you, still, have not yet got it. I also know, for sure, that if you keep misbehaving the way that you are here you will never get ‘it’ as well.)

Again, projection is presented in its best examples.

Have you even recognised what you and “atla” have been so desperately trying to do here?

And again, this one still believes that it is the understanding and charitable one here.

Which is absolutely hilarious to watch play out and occur here.

Okay. We obtain more insight in to what this one Truly believes is true.

Okay, “we or I wait on bated breath”, as some might say.

So, BEFORE it even begins to address another, it has already concluded that ‘the other’ will likely NEVER respond, anyway. Thus, once more, its actual beliefs are exposed, which obviously affects ‘the way’ it converses and interacts.

So, LOL, it claims that it will address some one, but laughably NEVER does, and instead just makes another future premonition of:

LOL Now why would absolutely anyone admit something that another believes is true, but which ‘that one’ does not even agree with?

LOL It would be like me saying and claiming:

“iwannaplato” will never admit that yes, under its condescending wording and superiority complex and God like claims, narcissistic wounds and rage get triggered with some regularity”.

Of course, you will never ever admit this, will you “greenfuse” and “iwannaplato”?

I wonder what I have actually done, which is perceived to be so evil and narcissistic, other than just say and claim that there is only One Mind, I know what I know, and that I use people in a very specific way, for a very specific purpose.

What else have I done “atla” and “greenfuse” that is so evil and narcissistic, besides just present views and ideas that you either have not heard before or you just do not believe and do not agree with?

There are countless things that you do not assume ‘about me’. But, I am far more interested in you sharing what you do assume ‘about me’. Will you do this?

Also, if you have had so-called ‘run-ins’ with ‘the type’ that you are aware of “those creatures” that there is no one there, then, if there is “no one there”, then what is ‘it’, exactly, that ‘you’ are having a ‘run-in’ with?

Huh? Your One Mind theory in itself has nothing to do with it. You have no conscience = you’re naturally evil. Who cares? That’s not the interesting part.

Ken, notice how little of what he does he is aware of, those three things. What does he leave out here that you have to carry out? And if he is wondering,

see if he can actually consider anything at all. It’s not as if, Ken, people here haven’t said what we have noticed. But he can find three things.

This program loop is what you have left in charge, running things, running you.

Just like your superiority complex is still shining brightly among your looping running wording here.

Likewise, if you ever want to have a real meaningful discussion, that is one where meaning and agreement is found and reached through logical reasoning, then let me know as well.

But, otherwise if you would like to carry on as you have been, then please do. Both ways work in my favour perfectly.

LOL you will try to look for absolutely any thing in your attempt to somehow ridicule me. But, again, there is not a single thing that could.

One could also point out how many posts you have made which have been ‘about me’, and which have absolutely nothing at all to do with the actual topic title that those posts are under, but one won’t.

Do you ask the entity “iwannaplato” questions?

If no, then why not? If you do not, then why recommend I do something that you do not do?

But, if you do, then what exactly do ‘you’ ask “iwannaplato”?

What will be seen here is that no answer and clarification will be provided, again.

LOL

So, sometimes you say that I say I have got the proof, sometimes you say that I say I am still getting the proof, although I have already got the proof, and now you are saying that I think or believe that I am never quite getting enough proof. LOL you say some of the most outrageous things sometimes “iwannaplato”.

As I keep telling you, the more you speak and write here, the more and further proof you are providing for me.

LOL Imagine going to a philosophy forum, to keep talking ‘about another’, ‘with someone’, and then start recommending that ‘the another’ do something fulfilling. LOL, LOL, LOL

LOL it even goes on to talk about “trying to make a friend”, and to “get a life”.

LOL it does not even just answer openly and honestly the actual open clarifying questions I ask it, for its fear of revealing its True self.

Again, this sounds like it is speaking from very personal experiences.

LOL So, even though I say that I am here to NOT necessarily prove any of my claims and assertions, ‘this one’ somehow “sees” that I am ALWAYS ‘having to’ show that I really am infallible. LOL Could this be any further from the actual Truth again?

LOL it even asked ‘me’ if i am fallible. I answered, YES. But, LOL it “saw” a NO.

And, from that completely Wrong interpretation, it makes up all of these other False and Wrong assumptions, which has led it to many, many, many other False and Wrong conclusions, beliefs, and assumptions. All piled on top of each other into one big, huge pile of absurdity.

Once more, if you people want to come into a philosophy forum, of all places, and claim things, then be prepared to be questioned and challenged over your beliefs and claims.

Again, if you have not already obtained the irrefutable facts and proof for your belief and claims, then I strongly suggest that you do not present them here. After all, do not forget that this is a philosophy forum.

If anyone wants to make claims, then, obviously, the onus is on them to prove their claim. How much more simpler and basic could this be?

If, for example, you KNOW the earth revolves around the sun, then no mask is required. you would ALSO be ‘so confident’, ‘nothing touches me’, ‘I never get angry’ as well.

Any “loop” only continues when people believe otherwise, and so think that “they know better”.

If you KNOW, you KNOW. And, there is absolutely nothing anyone else can do that affects THIS KNOWING. It also does not matter one iota if absolutely everyone is against you. Again, if you KNOW, you KNOW, and that is all that really matters.

There is no ‘work’ on my part.

This is all fun and play, ‘to me’.

It looks like projection, and questions “greenfuse” wants to ask “iwannaplato”.

Have you done this, is this why you are recommending it?

Or, are you again recommending things that you will not do.

Not that you will answer and clarify. As you will, once more, prove my claims to be absolutely True and Right.

Is that what both “greenfuse” and “iwannaplato” know?

Or, are you talking about another one here?

More capital letters - online raising his voice - more use of LOL.

More forgetting:

He came to a philosophy forum to use people here to prove his claims to future generations and not to justify to people here the claims he makes here. That’s not his purpose. He has specifically said that is not his purpose. Yet, the faux outrage arises when other people seem to act like he does. Perhaps if he can ‘shame’ people enough. Perhaps if he can guilt trip them enough. Trying to get control.

But he forgets and then gets into his faux outrage that people would come to a philosophy forum and do what they do. A teenager thinking he can demand people follow his criteria.

Perhaps you can notice this Ken, and perhaps take a step out of the loop. Perhaps not.

  • Projects
  • Assumes and believes
  • Talks ‘about’ others.
  • Does not show any commitment to resolution and peace.

Ken, he talks about resolution and peace to a forum where he is here to use people and to not, here, justify his claims. He doesn’t respect humans. He announces that everyone here is in a cult. He judges and mocks the people at the time this is being written. They are not the audience for his posts and he is not here for them.

And somehow he thinks he is showing a commitment and peace. And when people pick up this lack of respect and the double standards, he attacks these signs of health.

Ken, he doesn’t know. He’s probably convinced himself he doesn’t get angry when people point out the obvious and he senses it for a split second before he makes his next attack.

You wanna go another decade with this voice in charge of you?

He could keep this up forever, anything to not breathe and feel it. Alta and I will get bored again of the repetition, having learned, sure, a bit more about this pattern. But you’ll go on being run by him, in this assembly line supposedly to prove his claims to future generations.

LOL AGAIN, it talks ‘about’ “me version” of something, as though it already knows “my version”, but when asked to clarify whether it even knows “my version” or not, it “runs away”.

Either you KNOW it, and you WILL share it, or you do NOT.

Yes, you did say, “Prove it”. And, once again, if you TELL me what to do, do not expect I will do it. Do you understand? Otherwise, you will be very, very disappointed.

If you cannot even explain what “my version” is exactly, which is what you ‘talked about’, then this proves that you have not been listening, and hearing, and provides absolutely nothing that I could prove.

The one who is ‘running away’ again here is you “atla”.

Again, “atla” resorts to deflection and deception. The fundamental bases of evil, and of what the devil itself does

LOL So, just asking for clarification to this one is “crawling away”.

LOL, LOL, LOL, Just because you can’t and don’t recognise and see them in your words, in no way means others cannot.

I pointed out exactly where your absolute beliefs are within your words. you blatantly very clearly stated:

In relation to;

So, just like that, it has alread been “shown” that I can’t prove ‘it’. (My version of the One Mind), YET it is “atla” who is actually the one who can’t show something. “atla” cannot show what “my version” even is. Although I have expressed part of it a few times already. And, LOL this is without even mentioning that “atla” has absolutely no idea nor clue as to what “my version” even is yet.

The absurdity here just gets more and more ridiculous.

It claims and beliefs that I “can’t prove it”, concludes that because I have not yet shown it, that it can’t be done, but which it KNEW this before anyway.

LOL it claims it does not have absolute beliefs, but then it keeps writing absolute beliefs like this one here.

it literally cannot see the absolute beliefs that it write and presents here. Again, this is because of its current belief.

“atla” keep presenting irrefutable proof for my claims and assertions over and over and over, again, and again.

LOL this is “atla” “I dont’ have absolute beliefs”, but, “I believe, absolutely, that you never can prove it”.

Please “atla” keep going ‘the way’ that you are here.

Again, another prime example of one with absolute beliefs.

Some agree, absolutely.

But, maybe not for the reasons you presume “atla”.

Look at how this alleged God just spent half an hour typing this wall of text, just to crawl away from attempting to prove its claim, just as I predicted it would. This God is a bigger disgrace than almost any human in history.

What is the ‘it’ word in relation to exactly?

  1. there is no ‘theory’.
  2. I do not have a One Mind theory.
  3. What is the ‘it’, which supposedly your assumption of some so-called “my One Mind theory” have nothing to do with?

LOL So, again, it believes, absolutely, that ‘I am evil’, and “naturally evil”, (as though there was some other way to “be evil”). So, what I do is ask it for clarification of what I have actually done to be perceived and be believed as being “so evil”, but the bes this one can provide is -

you have no conscience, which equals you are naturally evil.

So, the only thing that I have done is, supposedly, have ‘no conscience’.

I am not sure how I could ‘do this’, but if ‘this’ is all “atla” has, then so be it.

you appear to. Considering how much ‘you’ talk ‘about me’.

What is, supposedly, not the interesting part?

And, what is the interesting part, exactly?

LOL So, again, it believes, absolutely, that ‘I am evil’, and “naturally evil”, (as though there was some other way to “be evil”). So, what I do is ask it for clarification of what I have actually done to be perceived and be believed as being “so evil”, but the bes this one can provide is -

you have no conscience, which equals you are naturally evil.

So, the only thing that I have done is, supposedly, have ‘no conscience’.

I am not sure how I could ‘do this’, but if ‘this’ is all “atla” has, then so be it.

you appear to. Considering how much ‘you’ talk ‘about me’.

What is, supposedly, not the interesting part?

And, what is the interesting part, exactly?
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You don’t have to “do” or “not do” anything. Evil is what you inherently are, without a conscience. But that’s pretty obvious and not that rare.

You can summarize what I find somewhat interesting from what I’ve already said, if you can’t do it that’s your problem.

What?

you are talking ‘to someone’ ‘about someone’. Who is the “he” here, which you want “Ken” to notice how “little” of what “he” does “he” is aware of, regarding those three things?

It is like “greenfuse” could be talking ‘about’ “iwannaplato” and how either of do not notice how little they really know. But, who knows who and/or what “greenfuse” is referring to here?

If absolutely anyone does, then please share ‘that’ with us readers here. Going by “greenfuse” and “iwannaplato” past misbehavior “it” will not provide any clarity here, for us.

Let us see if “iwannaplato” and/or “iwannaplato”will answer and clarify, this time.

So, ‘I’ wonder what ‘I’ have done, which makes people like ‘you’ believe that ‘I’ am evil.

But, ‘you’ respond by talking about some “he”, somewhere.

So, once again, “greenfuse” fails absolutely to provide any answer or clarify absolutely any thing.

More missing - more misunderstanding - more misinterpreting.

No seeking out clarification - just more assuming, concluding, and believing.

I inform it why I do some things, but, either it forgets, or it purposely says the exact opposite.

Once again, it does not even get the most basic of things Correct.

But, this will not stop this one believing, absolutely, what it does here.

And, once again, from its False and Wrong beliefs and assumptions, it shows how they lead it to further False and Wrong conclusions, beliefs, and assumptions.

Can ‘this one’ ever get out of its loop of talking ‘about me’?

LOL We are in a philosophy forum, and it appears it whole focus here, well in this thread anyway is solely ‘about me’.

LOL I have never demanded absolutely anything.

I write, “I suggest …”.

“greenfuse” sees, “I demand …”.

Talk about it, presenting some of the best examples of ‘confirmation bias’, ‘for me’.

Perhaps you can notice “iwannaplato”, and if you do, please do not stop.

But, then again, perhaps you never will.

You’ll notice that without acknowledging it, when its pattern of increasing LOLs and increasing all capital letter words is pointed out, it pulls back.

Guilt, shame, push the buttons again and again. He plays to a non-existent gallery, perhaps this will pressure someone. Hoping I will try to convince him of something, have some goal in relation to him. That I I’ll try to get him to admit X. That I’ll try to demonstrate to Age that Y. Who cares what Age thinks? He’s not here to communicate with me or anyone here, just to elicit.
He just a dozen or so loops. On the off chance that you’d long ago let this set of loops take you over, I thought I’d try to reach out. Not surprising that only the loops respond.

And with these loops…..you’ll notice the lack of creativity.