A question to an honest (= Materialist) Atheist

Why are you, again, talking ‘to someone’, ‘about someone else’?

Is this finding ‘others’ who will “side” ‘with you’, when you want to focus ‘on one’, and do all you can to form an “us versus them” situation, a common habit of yours? Have you been doing this for so long that you do not even notice how much and how often you do it?

By the way, you, still, appear to have not yet noticed that what you are “seeing” exists in that head only. you have also missed the fact that because you believe it, absolutely, you are not able to recognise and see what the actual Truth is here. But, please do not stop this from making-up imaginary friends and talling ‘to them’ ‘about others’.

If the only way you can feel consoled and psychologically comforted is by “finding” friends, to talk ‘about others’ with, then we totally understand.

you really are a very insecure person, who does not handle Truth very well.

Whenever anyone is not on “your side”, and comforting you, you “see” this as disrespect.

I have informed you that I have no lack of respect at all. But, I cannot and will not make you accept absolutely anything.

If you feel disrespected, and “finding” others, or even “making-up” friends, who will “side” ‘with you’ makes you feel more respected and comforts you, then I will not suggest you just grow up and become more aware. As this will obviously be “seen” by you as just ‘lacking respect’ as well.

Again, you perceiving things that do not actually exist is not healthy at all, and you being so, so very insecure and “see” lack of respect where it does not is very unwell. But, this is a philosophy forum, I am not here to make you better. you’re old enough to find help, as well as respect and comfort, if that is what you really want. I will just suggest that here is not the right nor best place for that.

Either you have claims that you can back up and support with actual proof and facts, or you do not. The End.

LOL, But, when you used to “see” “ken” doing those exact same things, who were seeking for comfort and respect?

Could you ask “anew1” to comfort you, and “side” with then?

you really do come across as projecting.

I wonder what the ‘it’ word, this time, is in reference to exactly.

I am totally surprised that you two could up this long with your incessant pattern of talking ‘about another’.

Also, noted in ‘your use’ of ‘another’ to be ‘aligned with you’ here. you would really hate to ‘go alone’ here, without the comfort and respect of ‘those’ who “side” ‘with you’.

If ‘this’ is what you really want to believe is absolutely true, then this is absolutely perfectly fine and okay with me.

Added, to just reconfirm what “atla” believes to be absolutely true.

Oh, you poor thing, how could you possibly have missed I was talking to Ken about you, Age, the loops? Rhetorical question. Of course, you couldn’t connect the dots, even when Atla commented on it and of course after I explained it.

Ken, see the limitation of these loops. They latch onto certain things as limited heuristics. The rest they literally cannot see.

The parallel would-be lover who says to the beloved: I have no lack of love for you. Not getting any swoons. See, Ken, these loops you’ve taken in, they take the simplest things and contort them and they do not know at all how they sound.

Thank you for clarifying and clearly this up, exactly.

So, ‘evil’ is what ‘I’ inherently am. ‘I’ am without conscience’. Well that is what “atla” claims and believes to be absolutely true, right, accurate, and correct, anyway.

Again, it fails, absolutely, to just clarify its views and beliefs.

it leaves it up to us readers to ‘imagine’ what it finds ‘interesting’ or ‘somewhat interesting’ here.

As usual, these are just wrong assumptions you make. It’s okay we don’t expect more from you.

You assume that if you lack reading comprehension skills, then all other readers must lack reading comprehension skills too. Your assumption says a lot about you.

LOL what do you believe I am PULLING BACK from, exactly?

Not that you will answer and clarify.

If ‘I’ am supposedly playing to a non-existent gallery, then what are you playing to here.

you are writing words like, “He plays to ..”? you also ‘talk about’ some “he” to ‘someone else’. So, who is ‘the gallery’ that you are “playing and talking to” exactly?

This appears as though you have gone completely insane.

Who are ‘you’ talking ‘to’ now?

Is there a ‘gallery of people’ that you are ‘talking to’ here?

Who is not here to communicate with you, or anyone here?

Again, who is “he”?

Is it “iwannaplato” that ‘you’ are talking about?

Is it “greenfuse” who ‘you’ are referring to?

Who, or what, is “he” exactly, who supposedly is a dozen or so loops?

Could ‘you’ be going ‘loopy’ and/or ‘crazy’ here “your” ‘self’?

Seriously, are ‘you’ okay at the moment?

What would ‘you’ like ‘me’ to call ‘you’ and to refer ‘to you’ as, exactly?

Who, and/or what, are ‘you’ trying to reach out to, exactly?

Is this what is happening within that head?

Or, is this is what is happening when ‘you’ are talking to (who knows)?

You don’t understand. And that’s OK. Just talking past the mask. How could the mask realize this?

Have you not seen ‘the name and label’ I use here, in this forum?

Or, are you wanting to just ‘talk to someone else’ here?

Why do ‘you’ call ‘me’ “age”, that ‘you’ are talking to “ken” about?

The only ‘loops’ I see here are probably nothing like the ones you are looking at and seeing, by the way.

As long as ‘you’ have at least ‘someone’ on “your side” and comforting you that is all that really matters here, right?

And, you are exactly right about how I, of course, could not connect the dots. I think I would be worried and concerned if I could.

Even after you clarified that you are talking to “ken” , about ‘me’, who is supposedly “age”, in a forum that ‘I’ go under the name as “anew1”, I, still, cannot ‘connect the dots’. Imagine if ‘you’ were chatting ‘with me’ under the other names and labels I have previously used. Connecting the dots would even be more difficult.

If you say so. But, again, the definitions that you use for some words are clearly not the same that I use. But, as you have expressed very clearly previously, you KNOW the correct definitions and the correct usage of words, whereas I do not.

I sincerely hope that ‘you’ are okay there. you really do appear to not be.

What do you mean by, “lover who says to the beloved”, exactly?

Are ‘you’ not feeling ‘loved’? Or, is something else entirely going on here?

Also, what do you even mean when you use the ‘loops’ word?

What does, “these loops you’ve taken in”, even actually mean or is referring to, exactly?

And, if you were meant to be ‘talking about me age’, ‘to ken’, then why have now changed to ‘talking to ken about ken”, and about “ken” taking in some “loops” things”?

What exactly takes the simplest things and contort them, and which they do not know at all how they sound?

All of this appears totally incoherent, to me. Will you please explain -

  1. What these ‘loop’ things are exactly?
  2. Who “ken” is?
  3. How “ken” could have supposedly taken these “loops” in?
  4. Where did “ken” supposedly take these “loops” in to exactly?
  5. What you mean by ‘loops’ take the simplest form?
  6. What is the ‘simplest form’, exactly?
  7. How do ‘loops’ contort ‘them’?
  8. What are ‘them’ exactly?
  9. What are ‘they’ exactly?
  10. How could ‘they’ no know, at all, how ‘they’ sound?
  11. Again, what is the ‘they’ word here referring to, exactly?
  12. And, how do ‘they’, whatever ‘they’ are, sound like exactly?

As always, your Honest and Open clarifying answers would be very much appreciated.

That is, if those clarifications are ever forthcoming.

Ken is Barbie’s husband. Barbie is some broad. Even l know that …

If you do not expect anything more than “wrong assumptions” from me, then really what is ‘the point’ of pointing them out, exactly?

If this is what you believe to be absolutely true, then this is all well and good with me.

That would have to be “my wrong assumption”, correct?

But none of this has what I would call a ‘point’. Your tens of thousands of comments were quite pointless and so are our responses to it.

So, I have ask numerous questions, in order to gain clarity, but instead of providing any clarity at all, it just claims, “you don’t understand”, instead.

I wonder if it yet knows that the whole purpose of asking for clarity is because one does not yet understand?

But, being the type of teacher it was, it could never come across as ‘not understanding’, and so to “save face” it always put up the disguise of “always understanding”. Which helps in explaining why it does not seek out clarity, and much prefers to just seek out ridicule and humiliation of “the other”.

Thank you for clarifying. At least someone has.

That was ‘my point’. If you expect only “wrong assumptions” from me, what is the point of pointing them out when I make them?

Okay. So you, supposedly, ‘know this’, but you still keep on ‘doing this’.

Which is all well and good, but I just wonder, why do you keep doing it?

If I had to say something: it’s one way I found to try to gauge how deep your insanity runs.

No particular reason.

Good one.

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Hey look, with enough determination it is possible to obtain clarification, finally.

You assume determination was needed. But I already told you a few times that there’s no particular reason why I talk to you, just very small reasons and what they are. But blinded by your strong, wrong assumptions you can never catch on.

It wasn’t a claim. It’s called reflective listening. One can do it every now and then when ‘listening’ to someone. There, I focused on a core part of the message. My sense was that you - the ‘pattern’ who does most of the posting as anew1 - didn’t understand. I said that was OK. I was talking past the mask. I could have said persona. How could the mask realize what I was talking about? How can the loops understand something like what I was addressing Ken about?

But, it was your claim that my response was referring to. So, it was a claim.

Now, sometimes you - the ‘pattern’ known as “greenfuse” here - is talking to “ken”, sometimes the ‘pattern’ is talking to “age”, and sometimes the ‘pattern’ is talking to “anew1”. And, when ‘you’ - the mask and the pattern - are just asked clarifying questions, ‘you’ “iwannaplato” do not understand. But, this is perfectly okay with me. As I say and point out. Maybe you believe the questions are just talking past the mask. I could have said ego. How could the ego realise what I was asking? How can circles understand something like what I was addressing whoever ‘you’ are now?