You presented your beliefs and presumptions, which you believe are absolutely what occurs, about why people stop communicating with me.
I just responded by pointing out the fact that you still communicate ‘with me’, and still talk ‘about me’, even after months and months of you claiming, on numerous occasions, that you have me ‘on ignore’, as well as you claiming that I resemble one that it is truly best to avoid.
And, you are right, this is obvious.
If you want to call what I do “pathetic”, then this is perfectly fine and okay with me.
Some might have noticed and say that what you are doing here is pathetic as well.
For some strange reason you see us as like you - believing absolutely - and you are critical of us for being like you.
Yes, you repeat such claims Regularly and Repeatedly, as if we have memory problems. Is this you thinking we are like you ‘Maybe they forget like I do’
“Some might say…” A portion of humans might say X. Wow, what a bold assertion. This is a man not afraid to be asked to back up what he says. No weasel words here. No hypothetical Argumentum ad Populum.
Once more for the very, very slow of learning and understanding, ‘I’, unlike ‘you’, do not believe or disbelieve things. Therefore, this obviously means that ‘I’ cannot ‘believe absolutely’, unlike ‘you’ and “atla” who obviously do.
One day, hopefully, you will learn to read and comprehend what my words have actually been saying and meaning, or just remember what I have been saying and claiming.
Well, as I just showed and proved above here, you either do have a very serious memory issue, or you really cannot read and comprehend.
Are you implying that you do not forget any thing?
You’ve claimed this since the beginning, but it is not how you behave. So many times you have asserted things that were false - often about individuals here. It couldn’t have been knowledge - since it was wrong. Which leaves belief. It’s funny you frame it as being slow at learning. I understand what you are asserting about yourself, it’s just that the evidence is so obvious to everyone but you.
Yes, you assume that I haven’t remembered your claim that you do not have beliefs. And as usual you think your claims should be treated as facts by others.
So, once more, from just words/symbols on a screen only, which is all this one has to work with here, it has concluded ‘how I behave’. What a joke.
And, as I have also asserted, so many times as well, I can back up and support my assertions with irrefutable facts and proof.
Now, you want to claim and assert that so many times I have asserted things that were false. So, back up and support these many assertions of yours with irrefutable facts and proof.
And, please do not forget that what you presume or believe I have asserted is not necessarily true and right to begin with.
Once more, only after you have sought out and obtained clarification are you then able to know, for sure, that your beliefs and assumptions are absolutely Accurate and Correct.
Imagine claiming, “What you assert could not be knowledge and is false”, because I believe it is false and wrong.
Will you provide the actual proof and facts that back up and support this claim and assertion of yours here? Again, your prior assumptions and beliefs does not suffice.
Ah, you don’t consider what one does when participating in an online forum behavior. Noted.
Oh, well, please support your assertions that I believe my assertions absolutely with your irrefutable facts and proof.
I think you are confused in your use of proof. That is an idea better left to math and symbolic logic for example - at least in philosophy contexts.
You asserted that I thought you were a woman in Philosophy Now. I did not and I showed you posts there where I referred to you as male and Atla referred to you as female. That was an assertion on your part that was incorrect and which you never supported with irrefutable facts and proof and coult not have. And once presented evidence of your error, did anew1 acknowledge his error? No.
Yes, hint at knowledge you sometimes claim but never justify. Typical cult leader behavior.
See, how, once again, this one instantly jumps to concluding some thing, and which is based upon absolutely nothing but its own person assumptions, beliefs, and understandings, before it even stops and considers whether to seek out and obtain actual clarification and clarity.
I am not responsible for your misunderstandings and Wrong conclusions. you are.
So, Age is showing some really nice examples of cult leader dominance and gaslighting tactics here.
He relinquishes the collaboration model. He can easily see where my conclusion came from. But instead of doing what most people would and show the place I supposedly went wrong, he rejects globally, without explanation. He wants the seeker/pontificater dynamic.
He gaslights. He reduces his behavior here to words/symbols on a screen. This is the same logic as spitting in someone’s face, then excusing it by saying it was merely certain molecules interacting with dead cells on the other person’s face. His actions, here, are not behavior, according to him. Reductive Fallacy. --note: anything here in blue is a link.
Some other cult leader behavior:
a) Transference of Responsibility (DARVO): The statement “I am not responsible for your misunderstandings… you are” is the hallmark of a high-control leader. It establishes a hierarchy where the Leader is the source of “Absolute Clarity,” and any failure to “get it” is a moral or intellectual failing of the Follower. The goal is to suck the other person into an endless loop of clarifications. Anyone interested in how this plays out could look at Age’s interactions on Philosophy Now. Note how often he refers negatively to human beings, a group he does not consider himself a part of.
b) The “Wrong” Brand (Sacred Science): Using the capitalized “Wrong” elevates a simple disagreement to a metaphysical error. He isn’t just saying someone is mistaken; he’s saying they are in a state of “Wrongness.”
c) The “Infallible Source”
In Robert Jay Lifton’s study of cultic environments, this behavior falls under “The Sacred Science.” The leader’s dogma is considered so “Clear” and “True” that any disagreement is labeled as a lack of “openness” or “understanding” in the questioner, if not those same qualities with capital letters - Openness and Understanding.
Note: I do not think he is a cult leader, but the amount of shared interactive tactics with cult leaders is very interesting.
Interesting here is that Age is willing to sum up his perhaps 40,000 posts online so far as ‘just words/symbols on a screen.’ Self-erasure as defense mechanism. Denial that communication with others is behavior, extended to erase years and years of activity on his part. He also does not seem to notice how he considers the use others put to words on a screen as behavior he judges and condescends to, naming what they are doing wrong with his key verbs.
Yes I can easily see where your conclusions come from. Again, they come from your APE-thinking.
As I have pointed out and presented before.
Once again, this one has allowed its own preconceptions and presumptions to form its conclusions for it. Thus why its conclusions are continually False and Wrong.
Again, if this is ‘your’ understanding, then ‘I’ am not responsible for ‘you’.
‘I’ am responsible for what ‘I’ mean, not for what ‘you’ understand.
LOL you really need to take control over your APE-thinking. That is, if you do not want to keep making so many False and Wrong conclusions as you are.
What would have made you jump to this most ridiculous and Wrong conclusion as you have here?
Okay. That you find this very interesting, is somewhat interesting, some might think and/or say.
And here we have another example of cult leader tactics: loading the language (link) and dehumanization. That ‘The Mind’ would act in such a reactive fashion is very problematic for Age’s self-conception.
A vague post filled with missing referents and a Floating Signifier with ‘opposite’. This response could be made to any post, and further it would have the same lack of information or position-taking. ‘I disagree,’ puffed up into a set of oracular non-assertions.
LOL Again, we have another example of this one arriving at a conclusion, which could not be any further from the actual Truth.
Again, this one’s APE-thinking has led it completely and utterly astray.
What we have here is another example of a follower who still does not know how to find answers and the Truth on their own.
Until you realise that you are in a cult, you won’t be able to step out of it. And, if you do not step out of the cult you are in, you will just keep being a follower and will not learn how to find True answers on your own.