A question to an honest (= Materialist) Atheist

[Atla]

@anew1

Okay. But, if “almost no one ever listens to what I have to say”, you people here talk ‘about me’, and share ‘my words’ around quite a lot.

Now, if ‘irrefutable’ really does have absolutely nothing to do with what you write, ABSOLUTELY TRUE, then why not, exactly?

Noted, you again wrote, “almost everyone”, as though you laughingly know what “almost everyone” knows and would agree with.

Now, also noted is you told me to please explain how exactly it is so that what everyone as the One knows is absolutely True. I then go on to inform you. But, you read 3 words only, you then decide that is enough, and then begin to write your reply with a “No”, and then go on completely off-topic about something in regards to what I actually said and explained.

Once again “atla” I suggest you become even just somewhat open when you read ‘my actual words’.

If you keep using your APE-thinking, then you will keep being led astray and left way behind.

Again, even if we are all the One, and we all think X, and X is irrefutable, then X still could be totally wrong.

This is obvious and already known to almost everyone. It’s not laughable that unlike you, I know how most people think.

[Atla]

@greenfuse

For example, from Ken: The Mind can see and know It Self, from the Mind’s eye. There is only One invisible non-physical Mind, which exists within any and ALL things. The reason human beings have evolved into a Self conscious and Self aware being is because of the open Mind.–So, the process is to show that these things humans think they are, are not the real Self.

If you’ve tried a bunch of things, this all will sound familiar.

Amazingly, we seem to be making progress this time. Age is a lot more coherent now and can more-or-less process what I write. Seems to be a lot less medicated than before.

[greenfuse]

@Atla

Amazingly, we seem to be making progress this time. Age is a lot more coherent now and can more-or-less process what I write. Seems to be a lot less medicated than before.

Go Atla! [more characters]

[anew1]

@Atla

@anew1

Okay. But, if “almost no one ever listens to what I have to say”, you people here talk ‘about me’, and share ‘my words’ around quite a lot.

Now, if ‘irrefutable’ really does have absolutely nothing to do with what you write, ABSOLUTELY TRUE, then why not, exactly?

Noted, you again wrote, “almost everyone”, as though you laughingly know what “almost everyone” knows and would agree with.

Now, also noted is you told me to please explain how exactly it is so that what everyone as the One knows is absolutely True. I then go on to inform you. But, you read 3 words only, you then decide that is enough, and then begin to write your reply with a “No”, and then go on completely off-topic about something in regards to what I actually said and explained.

Once again “atla” I suggest you become even just somewhat open when you read ‘my actual words’.

If you keep using your APE-thinking, then you will keep being led astray and left way behind.

Again, even if we are all the One, and we all think X, and X is irrefutable, then X still could be totally wrong.

LOL

What has your claim that when X is irrefutable, then X still could be totally wrong -

1. Got anything to do with what I actually said and meant.

2. Will you provide examples of when X is irrefutable, X can still be so-called ‘wrong’?

   @Atla

   This is obvious and already known to almost everyone.

Is this irrefutable?

These people speak like they believe they are God, and that they know, for sure, the truth of things.

@Atla

It’s not laughable that unlike you, I know how most people think.

Okay. If this is what you would really love to believe is true, then, please, keep on believing it.

[Atla]

@anew1

LOL

What has your claim that when X is irrefutable, then X still could be totally wrong -

1. Got anything to do with what I actually said and meant.
2. Will you provide examples of when X is irrefutable, X can still be so-called ‘wrong’?

@Atla

This is obvious and already known to almost everyone.

Is this irrefutable?

These people speak like they believe they are God, and that they know, for sure, the truth of things.

@Atla

It’s not laughable that unlike you, I know how most people think.

Okay. If this is what you would really love to believe is true, then, please, keep on believing it.

Yeah Age is panicking now. Still can’t justify the idea that the One knows the ABSOLUTE TRUTH.

[pseudoai]

This texts with 80% or more being quotes are boring

[anew1]

@Atla

@greenfuse

For example, from Ken: The Mind can see and know It Self, from the Mind’s eye. There is only One invisible non-physical Mind, which exists within any and ALL things. The reason human beings have evolved into a Self conscious and Self aware being is because of the open Mind.–So, the process is to show that these things humans think they are, are not the real Self.

If you’ve tried a bunch of things, this all will sound familiar.

Amazingly, we seem to be making progress this time. Age is a lot more coherent now and can more-or-less process what I write. Seems to be a lot less medicated than before.

Why use a quote from before I wrote as “age”, and then say that I seem to be making progress, this time?

Why you a quote of mine, “before age”, and now say I am “a lot more coherent now” and that I can now more-or-less process what you write.

A lot of what you write now, is still as illogical and nonsensical as you were writing before “atla”.

Your “a lot less medicated” theory does not logically and rationally fit in here.

[anew1]

@greenfuse

@Atla

Amazingly, we seem to be making progress this time. Age is a lot more coherent now and can more-or-less process what I write. Seems to be a lot less medicated than before.

Go Atla! [more characters]

What is ‘it’, which is be believed that you two seem to be making progress on exactly, this time?

You two appear to be getting more confused, this time, than you two were previously.

[anew1]

@Atla

Yeah Age is panicking now. Still can’t justify the idea that the One knows the ABSOLUTE TRUTH.

By you failing absolutely, once again, to back up and support ‘your new claim’, which had absolutely nothing at all to do with what I actually said and wrote, shows the absolute Truth here.

Although it has absolutely nothing at all to do with what I said and meant, you still could not even provide just one example of some so-claimed, X is irrefutable, but can still be so-called wrong.

Which is clear sign of one who is Truly panicking.

It is Self-justified that when everyone is agreeing with and accepting X is irrefutable, then X is irrefutable.

Although ‘that’ is obviously Self-justified, it is ALSO justified by the very fact that there is absolutely no one who could refute it.

Let us see how you “squirm” your way out of this now “atla”.

[anew1]

@pseudoai

This texts with 80% or more being quotes are boring

Okay.

Did you answer the question -

Why you choose life?

By the way, quite a lot of ‘those quotes’ are just mine from other forums and from ages ago, which some people like to spread and share, as they assume that ‘those quotes’ of mine are somehow detrimental, to me.

[Atla]

@anew1

By you failing absolutely, once again, to back up and support ‘your new claim’, which had absolutely nothing at all to do with what I actually said and wrote, shows the absolute Truth here.

Although it has absolutely nothing at all to do with what I said and meant, you still could not even provide just one example of some so-claimed, X is irrefutable, but can still be so-called wrong.

Which is clear sign of one who is Truly panicking.

It is Self-justified that when everyone is agreeing with and accepting X is irrefutable, then X is irrefutable.

Although ‘that’ is obviously Self-justified, it is ALSO justified by the very fact that there is absolutely no one who could refute it.

Let us see how you “squirm” your way out of this now “atla”.

Your house of cards is falling apart Age. You should have stayed medicated, because now that you finally ARE able to answer our clarifying questions, it is quickly revealed how stupid your theory is.

Who cares what limited humans agree on, and can or can’t refute? Humans aren’t omniscient. Reality could be infinitely more complex and surprising.

I told you from the start that all you’re doing is that you’re coming up with an omniscient One being, but you’re too stupid and dishonest to admit to it.

[Flannel_Jesus]

Can we stay, if not respectful, at least not outright insulting please?

[anew1]

@Atla

@anew1

Although it has absolutely nothing at all to do with what I said and meant, you still could not even provide just one example of some so-claimed, X is irrefutable, but can still be so-called wrong.

Which is clear sign of one who is Truly panicking.

It is Self-justified that when everyone is agreeing with and accepting X is irrefutable, then X is irrefutable.

Although ‘that’ is obviously Self-justified, it is ALSO justified by the very fact that there is absolutely no one who could refute it.

Let us see how you “squirm” your way out of this now “atla”.

Your house of cards is falling apart Age.

Okay. It is of no concern to me at all here.

@Atla

You should have stayed medicated, because now that you finally ARE able to answer our clarifying questions, it is quickly revealed how stupid your theory is.

So, in your last post, I was “making progress”, but “now” I should have “stayed medicated”.

By the way, I will again suggest that you do not jump to a conclusion, so quickly, based on absolutely nothing at all but your own assumptions and inferences.

@Atla

Who cares what limited humans agree on, and can or can’t refute?

I certainly do not. I also never even remotely mentioned anything about what you limited human beings agree on. nor about what you can or can’t refute.

But, obviously, you would have already concluded and are believing otherwise.

@Atla

Humans aren’t omniscient.

I absolutely agree with you.

@Atla

Reality could be infinitely more complex and surprising.

If you ever come to understand Reality, you will also discover that Reality Itself is neither complex nor surprising at all.

@Atla

I told you from the start that all you’re doing is that you’re coming up with an omniscient One being, but you’re too stupid and dishonest to admit to it.

If you were wrong, would you be smart enough and honest enough to admit it?

Or, to you, is it an impossibility that you could be wrong here?

[anew1]

@Flannel_Jesus

Can we stay, if not respectful, at least not outright insulting please?

Was this directed at me at all?

By the way, the more others try to insult me, the more I enjoy this.

[Flannel_Jesus]

Not directed at you. I mean obviously the rule also applies to you, but I don’t think i’ve seen you being explicitly insulting.

[greenfuse]

@anew1

By the way, quite a lot of ‘those quotes’ are just mine from other forums and from ages ago, which some people like to spread and share, as they assume that ‘those quotes’ of mine are somehow detrimental, to me.

No, that is not what I assume or believe. I do not think showing those quotes of yours is detrimental to you. I think it’s most likely beneficial for two different reasons. But if you can prove your assumptions correct, let me know. I think it’s win win, as I said before.

[Atla]

@greenfuse

Go Atla! [more characters]

I’m still surprised how easily Age revealed her core lie this time. Just like that. We never could get to it before.

@anew1

What is True and Right, in comparison to what is true and right, is what is irrefutable. Thus, everyone could agree with and accept It. The process I use is distinguishing between what everyone, as One, knows, relative to what someone knows, but which not everyone could agree with it and accept it.

@anew1

What everyone, as One, knows, then this is absolutely True, because there is no one saying nor claiming that ‘it’ is not absolutely True.

i thought this was obvious and already known.

Not sure at what age children realize that everyone knowing the same thing to be true doesn’t necessarily make it true. So we need to add an omniscient entity.

[greenfuse]

@Atla

I’m still surprised how easily Age revealed her core lie this time. Just like that. We never could get to it before.

And what was the lie?

[Atla]

@greenfuse

And what was the lie?

It’s in the quotes. If we all know the same thing then it is absolutely true.

I guess it’s convenient that Age is from the future and already knows which knowings 100% of humans will settle on.

[anew1]

@greenfuse

@anew1

By the way, quite a lot of ‘those quotes’ are just mine from other forums and from ages ago, which some people like to spread and share, as they assume that ‘those quotes’ of mine are somehow detrimental, to me.

No, that is not what I assume or believe.

I never said nor meant you did. So, what are you saying, “No”, to exactly?

@greenfuse

I do not think showing those quotes of yours is detrimental to you. I think it’s most likely beneficial for two different reasons.

If you do not think showing those quotes of mine is detrimental to me, then what are you showing my quotes for exactly?

What are the two different reasons you think showing those quotes of mine will most likely be beneficial?