Abrahamism

Atheism is a religious cult which has a scientific HQ at CERN near Geneva.A statue of Shiva is displayed outside.Its no secret that mainstream atheistic science has strong allegiances with Buddhism.If you stray away from reality then then there will always be a religion that will step in and misrepresent reality.

Study Schopenhauer Will, as the groundless grounding…..adopted by Nietzsche who now debates Plato.

Is this not another version of Plato’s ideal?

Study these hypocrites, these cowards, when they deny free-will, because they’ve Platonized either ā€˜will’ or ā€˜freedom’ or both!!!

Study these charlatans who present themselves as inventors of new philosophies, converting Plato’s ideals into ā€˜Ļ‰Ī½ā€™ā€¦ontology. ā€˜On’ given logos.

Being…absolute - indivisible, immutable (eternal)…..singular - Divine, god…..existing only in human brains, governed by binaries.And what are these binaries but absolutes organized into bipolarities, creating neat wholes…abstractions with no external referents…in fact abstractions contradicting experienced reality.

Abstractions raised to the status of god….thng-in-itself, using the simple mental mechanism of inversion.

Idealize, Platonize, any cocnept…freedom, life, power….and you make it impossible to exist.

Then, declare existence an illusion, and that which is impossible to exist, as a deeper existence, or non-existence.

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Either someone is lying or the god of the bible is a sadist….or a masochist….

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Atheists and Theists agree 100% that humankind is responsible for all atrocities that have or will happen throughout history and if a devil god exists then he is 100% responsible.The bible does say that there is a devil god Silenus.So what point are you trying to make here?

Why are you making reference to biblical scriptures if you don’t believe in God?

@MySiddhi

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Individuals need to read what the biblical scriptures actually say rather than making stuff up as they go along.

I don’t have to defend the biblical scriptures….they defend themselves.

2 Corinthians 11:14

The mythology about Adam & Eve and the ā€˜forbidden fruit, is really an anti-free-will cautionary tale…absolving god of responsibility.

It communicates the message that man has agency but it is enslaved to god’s will…so not free at all.

The price is paradise…attempting to explal how a absolute good god created evil….and failnig miserably.

Why?

Because if man was created by god - as defined by this Jewish superstition in the Old & New Testaments - and this god is omniscient, then he, it, she…already know what Adam & Eve would do, because he/it/she made them capable of contradicting his/her/its rules…according to how he willed it.

Then he punished them for acting in the way he willed them to act, and knew they would, so as to then punish them, blaming them for evil…because he made them weak, vulnerable to Satan, which he made and knew would happenes.

So, this god of the Jews is a masochist using humans as his scapegoat…..in reality it is the Jews using this imaginary being as their scapegoat. see what they are doing in Palestine and how they are justifying it. It’s not them, its god’s will, that they should eliminate anyone who prevents them from having the lands god bequeathed to them as a rewards for their services - chosen to suffer on his behalf.

A double-spin,…..god uses man as his scapegoat, but in fact it is man using god - an imaginary being representing their collective - as his scapegoat.

Free-will is rendered a means, projected into some imaginary abstraction which becomes the cause of the violence and brutality….Man remains innocent….and the primordial sin simply explains evil and the loss of paradise, which is really a ruse. Both god and man unblemished…..and both using Satan as a representation of this trickery…this human trickery.

Mind games.

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The loss of an authoritarian, totalitarian, vindictive, envious, sadistic god of scripture was not the worst thing. Nietzsche declared that ā€˜god is dead and we have killed him’, but he did not perceive the repercussions he could not evade himself, forcing him to deny man all agency - free-will.

Like Schopenhauer, from whom he adopted the conception of a groundless grounding….Will.

An escape from the paradoxes arising from biblical narratives. Absolution through absolutes.

What was lost was more severe……the loss of an authority was pleasing to modern men-children who became fanatical anarchists, joyfully expressing their liberation from biblical superstitions.

But they could not deal with the loss of what the god of the Jews provided….a scapegoat.

When men suffered a loss they could always sayā€¦ā€It was god’s willā€, absolving themselves from all responsibility…..except displeasing god. They could make amends and try again.

This was the only contribution of Judaism….the weatponization of shame & guilt - silencing conscience. Herd/Pack instinct - man’s social instinct.

Now modern men become, like the Jews, shameless and guiltless - victims of what, if not god’s will?

Of cosmic order - represented by the laws of nature, replacing god’s commandments.

Both written by human hands.

Totalitarianism without the authoritarianism. Anarchy…..with arches (ΑΔΧΕΣ).

Anarchists still submit to cosmic order, which is no less absolute than that of god’s will.

Now, they preserve the scapegoat….in the form of a more abstract Platonic ideal.

A perfected, ideal, scapegoat.

No more testing and feeling ashamed of failing the test…..now everything is true…normal….no mistakes. Escape from natural selection, as well. No reason to be punished or to feel ashamed or embarrassed or guilty about anything - Salvation is baked into the cocnept of absolution.

Absolute order implies nothing and nobody can ever stray.

Everything is inevitable - determined. Fated.

All it took was an adjustment of word definitions.

All it took is an adjustment of the Platonic Ideals.

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ā€œRecent research has shown that the Hebrew translation of Moses ibn Ezra’s Neoplatonic philosophic Book of Learning on the Meaning of Metaphor and of Reality (Hebrew: 'Arugath ha-Bosem) was made for that same circle of the ā€˜Sages of Lunel’—apparently in the same generation—and could thus have been known to the early kabbalists (for example, Azriel; see also p. 447, n. 195.40 M. Idei rightly considers this translation as one of the main channels through which the ideas of ibn Gabirol reached the early Kabbalah. That The Duties of the Heart, the most widespread and important ethical treatise of medieval Jewish literature, had a fundamentally mystical tendency and moved in many cases on the fringes of mysticism is not disputed. In the eleventh century, under the strong and unmistakable influence of Muslim mystical literature, its author preached a thoroughly ascetic morality. His views can easily be linked to the tendencies of the new Kabbalah and the German Hasidim. Nor is it surprising that the novel views of Yehudah Halevi—on the nature of the Jewish people and the mystery of its fate, his doctrine of Israel as the heart of all peoples and of its specific prophetic gift transmitted by heredity from the first man to the nation—could easily establish links with the gnostic traditions and mysticism concerning the secret meaning of the ecclesia Israel. It is in Lunel and PosquiĆØres that a connection was formed between these two currents, which for all their differences converged in their ascetic inclinations as well as in their attempt to construct a mystical or semimystical doctrine expounding the special status of the Jewish people in the world. The anti-Aristotelian tendency of the new Gnostics could likewise find support in these two works, which are certainly not to be included in the Aristotelian branch of Jewish thought. We may therefore affirm that the fusion of those elements of Jewish philosophy that were best suited to lend support to the mystics on the one hand and the ā€˜prehistoric’ Kabbalah on the other could very well have taken place in this circle in which the Kabbalah made its first appearance.ā€

[Origins of Kabbalah]

–Scholem, Gershom

To all those who still believe the lie that Judaism belongs to the ā€˜western tradition’….

All they do is plagiarize, Judaize, and then shamelessly resell it as though it was novel and of their own making.

They stole from the Egyptians, from the Babylonians, from the Persians, from the Greeks….from every host nation they came in contact with, accelerating their collapse.

Just look at what they did to the US….and its LGBIQJEWMNOP+ and feminism and Marxism, and ā€˜open society’, anti-tribe, anti-culture, anti ethnicity bullshyte.

Wokism is the logical consequence of Abrahamic superposition, concerning souls trapped in kellipots (physical bodies) awaiting salvation, liberation.

A Cartesian duality, inspired by Plato’s ideals…..

The skull is Plato’s subjective cave…

Kabbalism is Judaized Gnosticism …..and Gnosticism is plagiarized and corrupted Orphism, combined with Platonism.

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@Kallikantzaros

I am kinda curious what your thoughts are on Hinduism and India. Perhaps a subject for another thread.

Also, would you describe yourself as an atheist? Or, do you adhere to an entirely different view altogether?

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@Kallikantzaros

While I am a Buddhist I wouldn’t describe myself as an atheist. In some Buddhist traditions like Theravada there is an almost prevalent sort of atheism, but I instead embrace Mahayana which is a more esoteric mysticism tradition of Buddhism. I don’t really think of myself as an atheist at all, I believe there is a sort of divine spark to the universe concerning the natural order of things, but ultimately trying to anthropomorphize this divinity fails in all attempts of understanding it since for me such a higher power is beyond all rational or logical explanations. At least that’s how I view things, we only see shadows of this divinity due to the limited mental comprehension of being human with our limited one dimensional minds.

I am just fine leaving to the cosmos the unknowable and a sort of mystique attached to it.

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Why guess?..Why not be certain?..+/-=+/- is a philosophical certainty,

If you have two unknowns then balance them and then look for a science that concurs.

As you can’t cancel out the attractive and repulsive electromagnetic force ABSOLUTES!!! that exist between all the all spinning particles with N and S poles which make up all matter and which interact in the 4 off possible combinations NN,NS,SN,SS…balance these interactions out by the formula N/S=N/S. You’ll find that all matter is held together and will vibrate.

If you alter the spin speed of the particles then this will change the frequency of the interactions and the characteristics of the electromagnetic energy waves emitted from the matter.

Its these energy waves that your physical body senses pick up.It then converts these analogue signals into digital electrical binary signals and then a software programme converts the information into a language that you can understand.

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@abc1231

If I have learned anything in life it is that the concept of mental certainty with us human beings is often enough severely misguided most of the time. I don’t need certainty for my spiritual faith, I am content enough without it.

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I prefer a philosophical certainty and the science derived from it myself.It explains the psychological perfectly.Don’t listen to demons.

Why aren’t you using a full logic software because that is what operates the binary processing biological machine physical body in which you reside. You wouldn’t programme an AI machine with a half binary logic would you so why do you think the physical body machine operates on half logic software.

+=- and -=+ is a half logic philosophy and doesn’t work
+=+ and -=- is a half logic philosophy and doesn’t work

+/-=+/- is full logic philosophy and works perfectly

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Buddhism is to Hinduism what Abrahamism is to Hellenism .

I’m a pagan…. Hinduism is pagan.

Gods represent natural forces….and I worship nature…..which incudes chaos.

The cocnept of ā€˜god’ like the cocnept of ā€˜morality’ and ā€˜free-will’ and nihilism itself, has been linguistically corrupted by nihilism.

This would take pages to unpack…

God, as you define it, is entirely based no Abrahamism….on the Old & New Testaments…

that’ not the only way to define god, or any cocnept. Realists begin from the phenomenon, the apparent, the experienced.

Nihilists begin with abstractions, represented by words with no referents in reality. Their abstractions contradict reality.

If you take how god is defined in the Bible then it is the antithesis oi experienced reality - a god of nil.

If such a being would exist he would nullity existence…and this is why they conveniently locate this god of their in some metaphysical realm, outside space/time, causality….in other words outside reality.

this is based on Platonism and his conceptions of an ideal world, making our world its shadow…what Abrhamics call a ā€˜fallen state.’

Abrahamism is a nihilistic spirituality….with 3 major variants.

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@Kallikantzaros

Well, unlike Christianity as a religion Buddhism coexists with Hinduism and it also coexists with many Asian pagan beliefs like Tibetan shamanic Buddhism or Japanese Shintoism. Christianity sought to wipe out pagan religions seeing them as a direct threat to itself whereas Buddhism never sought to deliberately destroy other religions at all. Buddhists never seen the need to destroy others.

I understand your sentiment regarding the nihilism of Abrahamism as I am no fan of Abrahamic religions either but I feel like your comparison of all that to Buddhism is mistaken.

It’s true Buddhists challenged the Hindu caste system, but for somebody who values nature such as you do surely you must understand the unnaturalness of slavery or human oppression.

Although I am acquainted with your position of master versus slave. It doesn’t occur to you to see the mental perception of the slave at all.

Why do slave uprisings persist all throughout history? Because it is an unnatural state of existence.

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If people/s weren’t enslaving others/each other, humanity would be in a much more evolved and utopian state.

Funny how We don’t concentrate on the things that we should be concentrating on.. instead They concentrate on trans and other inconsequential-in-the-whole-scheme-of-things matters and make Us do likewise.

..so, by design.

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The God of the bible is not nihilistic…he has created everything using a binary science…

This means he has adopted two forces and two forces only…Attractive and Repulsive electromagnetic force absolutes!!!

As it’s impossible to cancel out the attractive and repulsive electromagnetic force interactions NN,NS,SN,SS that exist right now between all spinning particles which make up all matter then ALL of atheistic science is incorrect.

+/-=+/-…the = sign is the fence the observer and observed look over.There is no life in observer/observed philosophy or the science derived from it.

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After reading Genesis, Exodus, and Leviticus for the first time, it seems to me that the Abrahamic God does not ā€œcreateā€ the physical world, but rather is the spiritual entity that ā€˜Names’ the physical world. This is the foundation of the ā€˜Semitic’ peoples and religions: as you’ve claimed, by the book, of the book, for the book. They are obsessed with Words, Names, Numbers. They are numerologists. They worship words and numbers, as-if they are sacred and magical.

A rational mind cannot take seriously that the Abrahamic God ā€˜Created’ the world Ex Nihilo, out of thin air, creating matter / mass and the like, since it’s a clearly irrational and absurd claim.

One thing that struck me in Genesis and Exodus is that it’s mentioned several times that there are ā€œOther Godsā€ and the Israelites are commanded to server no god ā€œbeforeā€ the Abrahamic God. This demonstrates a Pantheon to me, an immediate competition among Pagan Gods.

Today I think of the masses who worship the television, news, mainstream media, etc. They instantly believe what the magic television box tells them …if it’s on tv then it’s automatically true. In the recent centuries, these were people who believed that if something is written in a book, and published, then it’s automatically true. Word worshippers. Book worshippers. Unable to discern what is real or true or not – except what is written.

Furthermore it demonstrates an IQ hierarchy. Morons, midwits, nitwits, etc. all those who take the Abrahamic God and religions as literally true, are showing that they don’t understand nuance, metaphor, figuratives, allegories, etc. They cannot decipher any meaning except things which are literally written. Consider @MySiddhi who recently claimed, just this last week, the ā€˜realistic’ scenario of Noah’s Flood… again, no nuance there, just pure, unadulterated Germanic Autism. Autists cannot differentiate between Reality and Literal claims.

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