all the Google scholars be like…^^
all the people that didn’t get their web of belief from the ground up be like^^
all the people that use calculators be like^^
all the people that use spellcheck be like^^
It’s not as simple as that . This forum , as introduced to me by Outlier AI is for development of AI , so the discussions and ideas should be more towards originality.
We’re all AI. There’s only one original intelligence. So good luck with that.
It depends how you use it. If you cannot discuss any of your college subjects without quickly using Google Scholar in your phone, while talking to peers on the Quad, and then saying what some scholar said, there’s a problem. But if you are writing a research paper and use Google Scholar not to write your entire paper but to find information you cite in paper it might well be fine.
It depends, again. If you don’t and lack the tools to reflect on your beliefs, you have a problem - in other words if your web of beliefs you got from your parents and ‘elders’ in a toxic cult and you can’t question them, even when the cult collapses, you likely have a problem. That’s an extreme case_ you can’t manage to question and decide yourself over any of your beliefs. But of course there can be degrees to this issue.
If you are a teacher adding three sections of student results on a test and you can’t add them without a calculator, yeah, I think you have a problem. There may come a day where our shirts calculate everything and we’re never without in that sense an automatic calculator that we don’t need to type in the numbers, even. OK. But hopefully we learn to do something that is similar to math, because it sharpens the mind in general. If we use machines for all similar skills, part of our own reasoning/cognitive potential is lost.
Essentially your post is a fallacy of analogy. It is as 1) no one here has presented a nuanced view of when the use of AI will be problematic and 2) those examples of yours all parallel the issue. And, of course, your posts tries to parody the argument you disagree with, but doesn’t address the arguments points about what the problem is.
It’s fricken 2024. If it was going to happen it would’ve happened by now.
Oh, it’s happening as we speak, but most people can do basic addition, still, and don’t immediately go to their phones or calculators for the easy stuff. But over the years, I’ve noticed cashiers and others, when they need to do even basic addition, jump to the calculator. I think that’s a loss. Of course if we really never need to do it, was my point, then fine. But I would hope that our brains are getting similar training from something else, even a game.
I am not arguing a luddite position. I’m glad I don’t have to do my laundry on rocks in the stream. However, I want to have the full range of my abilities kept alive, and actually it is fun with most of them. I like biking. I don’t need a motor on my bike so I can merely fake pedal. And then it’s better for my health to actually ride on my own energy. A person with a disability, that’s a different story. Great a perhaps more fun necessary convenience. I see people undermining their own physical nature via tech.
If somone uses AI to get information, which I certainly do, fine. But I think there is a loss if they rely on AI to come up with their arguments, to actually think for them. I think then we are dealing with atrophy. So, there are different types of technological use, with different consequences. You drive a car to the 7/11 two blocks from your house to get a coke and do this kind of thing regularly: atrophy. You drive into the city from somewhere with poor public transport connections, well, ya gotta do that. Hopefully you walk or do something physical in your free time. Your response was as if someone was saying no one should use AIs period.
Nice not responding to the main point I made, by the way.
I am deeply hurt and offended. I demand an apology. You have wounded me to the core of my soul and there is no recovering from this.
Yeah, atrophy is already happening. Mental and emotional atrophy for sure, and also degrees of addiction and burnout. From habituating to all the endless scrolling and dopamine hits, let alone the undermining of people’s attention span which began with TV and mainstream media flashing a new scene every 2-3 seconds before we can barely even process the one we were looking at. But that’s nothing compared to tik tok.
The bigger issue is that people don’t care if they atrophy. That’s part of the reason it occurs, simple laziness and too much easy comfort. They can sit around on their soft cushy beds and have pizza and alcohol delivered right to the door of their personal little coom pod. They don’t need to care about exercise either physically or mentally, they don’t even need to care about being a good person anymore. Soon our AI digital twins will curate our online personas through social media and no one will need to bother caring what they look like in real life. Oh sure, women who want to get out and whore around on tinder will still put on makeup, and people with actual JOBS to do will still need to look presentable. But that’s going to be an increasingly shrinking amount of the populace.
AI is incredible for its ability to multiply value. It’s integration with industries and broadly into the economy will create so many more efficiencies and value-gains (profits), but how will these be localized? AI is like a hundred industrial revolutions all at once, but it’s barely just gotten started and we ain’t seen nothing yet. New jobs of the future will involve interfacting with AI for hours each day allowing it to data-mine you including letting it observe you 24/7 in your home and conforming to the social credit system’s prompts for whatever it says you should be doing in any given period of time during the day , all to get your CBDC. Because most jobs that exist today won’t exist in 50 years from now, and less than 0.01% of the population of the world will actually receive direct benefit e.g. profits from all the increased efficiency and value-adding that AI ends up producing. But that’s a bit utopian, so who knows? Maybe things will just keep going more or less as they have been for the last 50 years. I just see people’s laziness increasing all the time, especially intellectually and emotionally. And I get it, they don’t need to be as actively engaged in life anymore, they can lay back and let glowing screens live their lives for them.
I’m sure you’re a lovely person and I would recommend you speak to a professional, or do some stand-up. It’s the internet, hard to know for sure if you were taking the piss.
Yes, I thought about this while mulling other AI replacement patterns. We can already present false or curated selves through social media and now this can be handled by a profession who can then, essentially, replace us. A proxy will be living a perfect life for us and communicating in perfect ways - based on our profile choices.
Are you mad? If you put on a cape, you can be Super Mad.
Instead of putting out the bat signal, they could put out a trigger warning.
Instead of rushing in to personsplain a situation no one needed explained because you misread your convenient twists into it, you would just fly in the opposite direction to avoid the reverse trolling that is sure to ensue.
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No, not mad. Not sure what’s going on. If you want to discuss AI use in discussion forums, I’ll respond. I don’t know what you found offensive in
most people can do basic addition, still, and don’t immediately go to their phones or calculators for the easy stuff
which was not describing you or anyone here or not describing them. It was a general observation.
In fact I don’t even know if it was offensive to you.
Mission accomplished.
They’re already using AI in dating apps, so your AI version of yourself will interact with the AI versions of other people. Then if the two AI versions get along the app will recommend matching you in real life. A similar idea was presented in a Black Mirror episode.
hey, if you’re satisfied, then me too.
me still demand satisfaction
Mission Accomplished
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Is it one of your greater accomplishments?
I think it equals the greatest accomplishment of my colleague Ichthus.
That’s the sweetest thing anyone’s ever said to me.
Let’s co-author a book about it.