All things good to us are rewarding to us

All my previous topics were too long and sort of incoherent. No debate could be had in those topics since they were too long and incoherent. Therefore, I am going to state something brief here for us to debate:

Everything good to us is a reward to us. If you lived a depressed life and thought that you having good meaning in your life is nothing but words and phrases and isn’t actual good meaning, then that would not be a reward to you. But the moment you perceive good meaning in your life in such a way that it is actual good meaning to you and not just words and phrases, then that would be the reward to you.

I will give another example. If you did not focus on yourself at all and just focused on living for others, making their lives good, and this has good meaning to you, then that would be rewarding to you as well. For you to make the lives of others good (rewarding) is rewarding to you. But as I said before, our reward system (good moods) are the only reward for us. They are the one and only things that can give us a rewarding experience in life since it all comes down to the functioning of our brains that gives us all our experiences in life.

If you had nothing but disrewarding pain and misery from having your wounds attended to at the hospital, then just the fact that the idea of you being healed is of good value/worth to you means that it is rewarding to you despite your pain and misery. But like I said before, if you did not experience your good moods despite your pain and misery, then that would actually be of no good value/worth to you.

Now to say that something can be of good value/worth to you even though it is not rewarding to you would be no different than saying that something can be rewarding to you even though it is not rewarding to you. Therefore, that would be a false (contradictory) statement.

We have different functions of our brains. Our thinking function gives us the experience of thoughts. Our hearing function gives us the experience of hearing. Our sight function gives us the experience of sight, etc. But our reward system gives us the experience of reward (our good moods). Our hearing function cannot give us sight, our sight function cannot give us hearing or reward, etc. The mental experiences are tied (restricted) to their functions.

Therefore, the only way helping someone in life can have good meaning to you is if you were in a good mood in doing so. As long as you are in a depressed mood or any other bad mood, then nothing can be of any good value/worth to you in those given moments. Not even if you changed the world and made it a better place. Only when you are in a good mood again would that have good meaning to you.

It doesn’t matter what you tell yourself otherwise when you are in a bad mood. If you told yourself that you still have good meaning in your life despite your bad mood, then you would be telling yourself nothing more than labels (words and phrases). That would not bring you any actual good meaning.

So with all of that being said, it is only the feeling/emotional non-moral (mood) version of good and bad that can give good and bad meaning to our lives. The moral version of good and bad and all other versions of good and bad are fake and do not give our lives any real good or bad meaning.

Ok so if I cheerfully kill a stranger , it is a good thing for me and the right thing to do?
Before you argue, read what you wrote and see how it can be interpreted that way.

I have already considered this. Yes, if you derive good moods from harming people, then that would be perceived as good to you regardless of what you think and tell yourself otherwise. As long as telling yourself otherwise does not cause you to be in a bad mood such as feeling bad from having done that, then it would still be good to you.

So you see that prison or death sentence will be good for you if you feel good about killing someone.

Why waste the tax money? Just keep feeding him LSD until he dies from dehydration. He will find it ‘rewarding’ apparently…

Lsd is pretty hard to come by. Most of what people get now is just a bunch of shitty research chemicals.

So long as they give pleasant sensations, this guy doesn’t seem to give a fuck.

Well, I guess it’s his choice to decide what he wants to do, at least up to the point where others are willing to do something that stops him from it.

The moment I kill someone and derive good moods from doing so (which I would never do, btw), that would be the moment perceived as having good meaning to me. But the moment I am put in prison and derive bad moods from being in there such as feeling depressed, then that would be the moment that is perceived as having bad meaning to me. But the idea of me being in prison during the moment I derived good moods from killing that person cannot be perceived as having any bad meaning to me since I wasn’t in a bad mood from that idea at the time. If I have chosen to refrain from killing this person knowing that I would go to prison, then it wouldn’t of been because that idea had bad meaning to me. Rather, I would just be using the logic thinking area of my brain in avoiding a future situation. I would be doing nothing more than just preferring to not kill this person and to not be put in prison. I would of done nothing more than made a choice. A choice that would make all the difference, nonetheless. But just a choice.

Therefore, depressed people are living their lives like nothing more than lifeless dead machines. They have no good meaning, love, joy, happiness, or inspiration in their lives. They are doing nothing more than choosing to live their lives.

Or many may enjoy being depressed.

Let me just add one last thing here. All things in this universe are physical. Even good and bad. Sight and hearing are physical. They are mental states. Therefore, good and bad are also physical as well. They are mental states as well. They are our good and bad moods. We are currently unaware of this and are thinking them to be subjective (personally defined) terms when they are not.