Why America is intervening in other countries affairs?
- Economical reasons
- To remain a superpower
- Morality reasons(against genocide, war crimes, etc…)
- Other reason(is there?)
I can think of 3 reasons, what do you think is the main reason?
Why America is intervening in other countries affairs?
I can think of 3 reasons, what do you think is the main reason?
Empire.
Hubris.
Kropotkin
Two sides of the same coin, Kropotkin. It takes balls.
all of the above
-Imp
Agreed.
Hubris, Empire is all “remaining a superpower”. Americans want to feel that they control the world, and not vice versa.
Maybe I should have put “psychological reasons”.
That’s by the way(remaining superpower) is the correct answer.
Economical reasons: WRONG!
America attacked Iraq for the oil? No way! Iraq was attacked so that America would continue its superpower status. While being superpower has many bonuses, including economical. But seeing economics as the main reason when it’s only one of the reasons(The other being: security, pride, etc…), is a big mistake.
Morality reasons: Come on, give me a break.
I think the vision of the Founding Fathers is for America’s destiny to lead the world to pursue the objective of one world, new order, the brotherhood of humanity in which all humans are equal.
America is a disintegrating culture at this time. How are we going to fulfill that national destiny? Our neglect will impair the Founding Fathers vision. The first thing we need to do, I think, is we need to go back to GOD. We love money. Read what’s in your coins and currency:“In God We Trust”. The Founding Fathers were guided spiritually in the shaping of this great nation. Can we help them fulfill their vision?
We are at war right now but war is an earthly temporary thing. I can only pray that our highest officials will also be guided spiritually and pray that both sides (those who love Amrica and those who hate America)will have peace.
Eugene, why start with a poll? Just say it in your OP. Either economic reasons are operative or they are not. But these are not exclusive of “psychological” ones. You’re trying to make the point that we’re all retards. Okay. Fine. I took this to be a bona fide poll. I’ll know better next time.
superpower: wouldn’t we attack the other superpowers if this was the real reason? get russia while they are weak. or take over some of those countries without standing armies. that’s what superpowers do.
moral: we would be intervening in so many other places by now, darfur much more than we are, for example.
other: couldn’t be religion 'cause God is dead.
economic: absolutely. and not just because eugene said no to it. but because we’re money-grubbing capitalists. its all about the bottom line. more control of oil would mean a bigger cut of the most valuable asset in the world right now. the right gov’ts in the right countries to make favorable economic import/export decisions will increase profits once again. it’s all about the benjamins!
Hegemony and nothing else…Hence our bloated military.
The fault is in the question:
Why some Americans…
Superpower? Yes. Monetary superpower.
Large scale investors. People who made a load of money on 9/11.
Ask the terrorists of 9/11, why the WTC , why not the Statue of Liberty?
Why the Pentagon and not Time Square?
Economical? Yes. Not for the average Americans.
American solders has no interest in intervention, their leaders do.
Military leaders are connected to weapons manufacturers like doctors to pharmaceuticals.
Morality? Yes. But who’s morality? How many Americans consider Abu Ghraib moral?
The morality of a commander appointed by God himself.
Other reasons? Many. Stupidity, hate, greed … all the nice stuff.
If the reasons were mainly economic, why America intervened in some african states?
Also, why almost every big counrty in the world has an opinion about the affairs of distant states? Why China is always pro Arab in the U.N council? What China has to do with Arabs?. I don’t think they somehow get lower oil prices for that.
Why Italy sends 2500 troops to Lebanon? It juse spares troops and money, they don’t get any back this way.
Every country wants to influence, and America can influence more than others.
It’s the same with people. We all want a great career, and money is only another motivator. But what we really want is the pride of outsmarting others. When you are a head of some hightech department, your social status is very high, and not because of the money but because of your position.
So it is important for us all to have influence, to be important. That’s a much more driving factor than money.
So many people emphasize money in everything. It’s a mistake.
Yeah Faust, its a trap.
Be careful next time before you state your opinion.
No, that’s not what superpowers do. They do what is best in their interest. Athenes never attacked Sparta, 19th century Britain didn’t attack France. Superpowers usually don’t take big risks. To remain an empire you need brains not only sword.
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Eugene - that you have set a “trap” does not mean you are correct. What I’ll be careful about is falling for gimmicky OP’s.
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You win, I am out.
Please translate your sarcasm, if you can.
Sorry!
About China!
Let me start with the simple ‘fact’ that the fastest growing economies on the planet are China and India.
I assume it will stay that way as long as international investors are willing to finance it.
For this kind of growth they will need a huge energy supply. Where from?
Suppliers:
Afghanistan: one of the largest reserve of natural gas on the planet.
Iran: oil, lots of it.
Iran and India in fact had an agreement on long term energy supply when the USA intervened and stooped it.
Iraq just before the invasion was planning to conduct oil sales in Euro. Iran announced the same. It would seriously undermine the importance of the Feds.
Whoever controls the energy supply of Asia, will control the growth and skims the profit.
Made in China!
There is cheap labor in China and no Unions or environmental regulations combined with corruption.
Still, with todays energy prices the transportation itself is a considerable cost, except if you are making money on that too.
Geopolitics:
How come China is not on the axis? Or India, with the amount of poverty, despair, and discrimination?
If they decide to be energy independent they get there overnight.
Remember Japan?
Please allow me to stress it again.
The current world events has very little to the with Americans or western values or Christ, it has to do with control of … (your choice goes here) by non-national economic powers.
The debt now stands at more than $8.2 trillion.
http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/
In Fiscal Year 2005, the U. S. Government spent $352 Billion of your money on interest payments* to the holders of the National Debt.
http://www.federalbudget.com/
Math: $352 Billion / 352 million Americans = $1000
Chevron: Revenue totaled $54.6 billion, a 31 percent increase from $41.6 billion last year.
IBM — Revenue: $96.29 Billion USD (2004)
January 2004: Halliburton discloses that a subsidiary paid a $2.4 million bribe to a Nigerian government official’s business in exchange for favorable tax treatment.
http://www.halliburtonwatch.org/about_hal/chronology.html
There’s a nice bit of revisionist history for you. The ‘Founding Fathers’ vision was to get rich. If they invoked the name of god then, it was only to use it in the same way it is used today - to rally people to your cause, and get them to lay down their lives for your cause. The Boston Tea party was a violent tax revolt, nothing more. The Founding Fathers were a bunch of wealthy merchants and smugglers who didn’t want to pay taxes.