America needs to get rid of public transportation

public transit systems are effectively useless in America. The number of people that use transit systems are unanimously out weighed by people who use their own private means of transit i.e. cars or bikes or motorcycles. What exactly does public transit do for the American people? The negatives are far too vast to keep it going. It’s a financial waste and any money that goes towards it is essentially used to make poor quality buses or trains that basically pollute the air and don’t have a decent revenue. Public transportation made sense in the early years of this country but not anymore. The rise of automobiles has made buses and trains completely obsolete.

My solution? Get rid of the entire public transit infrastructure and use that money to stimulate the economy. Create jobs, create a surplus, anything. This money is being wasted for absolutely no reason.

Don’t fall for the argument here. Public transit is go for the economy.

Hey dude, the handwriting is on the wall. All natural resources are running out, oil will be finished in at most 100 years, water will be finishing in a few decades, population is still growing, steel and wood will be over in a few decades, so with coal, corn food etc. In about 300 years all natural resources will be depleted.

Science and technology have peaked, they can’t get anything new anymore, they can’t discover or manipulate matter past what we now have. The three body problem can’t be solved, not even with supercomputers, how do you think they can solve proteins ? This is the most science and technology we will ever have, there won’t be anymore, there won’t be anymore breakthroughs, the science game is over, it is completely and totally finished. Nuclear energy is over, Fusion can’t be done, solar and wind is a joke, it is totally over. Public transport will last only a few decades but at least it makes the ride into the coming stone age a little longer. Do you understand that it is totally over ? There is not enough work for another billion people from China, Brazil and Indonesia, what will they all do ? Will they dig for oil ? Will they sell financial products ? will they build houses when all concrete and steel and wood will have been depleted ? It is all over, now, we are doomed, Western Civilization is doomed, the future is war for water, war just to eat.

LOL.

you’re beyond qabsurd

We have oceans of water, not to mention lakes so vast that that it defies your apparently tiny imagination.

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blah blah blah its expensive and hard, but its getting grossly cheaper and cheaper, on top of that , once more water runs out, it’ll be easier because more technological development will be focused at fixing the problem.

Its already a large problem in parts of the world, just, canada or america isn’t going to go dry anytime soon, niether are dozens of other countries.

Those plants use energy which is completely and totally finished at this point. So they can’t operate anymore. On top of that food is finished, coal and uranium is gone, oil is totally over, so we have the end of our civilization. Just accept the truth, it is totally over, science is a total joke, they haven’t discovered anything in decades.

We will become a religious tribe again, maybe we will develop symbolic knowledge, imaginary sciences and religions (but isn’t everything just imagination ?) made up of symbols and irrelevant rituals (but isn’t everything rituals ?).
Maybe we will stop thinking and talking and become a new primitive stone age animal again.

Funny how technology today is simply a problem of manipulating the technology we have and not creating or discovering new technology. Our problems are all human decision problems at this point, like what software to make, what energy to use (nuclear or coal ?) etc. The manipulation of technology is the technology of the future not “new technology or science” anymore. How it is used and who decides how to use it, with what political power etc. is what counts. The technology of the future is actually pure politics.

Useless for who?
Public transit systems are very useful for lazy people who do not want to pay for their own transportation.

1Samuel8:
“Public transit systems are very useful for lazy people who do not want to pay for their own transportation.”

Kropotkin: actually public transportation is for those who are unable to pay for their own transportation.
Ride public transportation and one quickly see’s that. The young, old, minorities all need public transportation
to be able to get around. Cities with the better public transportation systems are the more livable cities.

Kropotkin

Mr. K,
I was hazed and raised on public transportation. I have experienced enough.

Saying “American needs…” is meaningless without a perspective of who is on the receiving end of the equation. [It is also meaningless without taking into account who actually subsidizes it but hey! most people want a free lunch and are quite comfortable ignoring or off-loading the costs.]

That is just your opinion.
In my town, the vast majority of the violent crimes happen to occur on the property of public transit system.

So, whose perspective on what “America needs…” wins?

I think this post has been one of ‘devils advocacy’. Its main intention was to get a discussion going.

Getting rid of public transit is a ludicrous idea, especially in this day and age, and I think the author of this post knows that.

Oil is finishing. There is no possible substitute for it to use in primitive devices such as private cars. So cars are doomed, science won’t find any magic solution, science has peaked, is over, is doomed. So in that very short interval between 2010 and 2030, when everything will peak and become depleted, public transit could still be used. But maybe people will be too busy looking for some water to drink. Wow, what progress, what “an advanced society”, one where the only job people will have is to search for some water to drink to live an extra hour!

The whole concept of progress, of advancing societies and civilizations was a hugely distorted idea, that came about only because between the year 1800 and 2000 there was scientific and technological advancements. But the west thought it would go on forever, that we could grow, as “economic growth” forever, that science and technology was this magical fairy tale where every year a new breakthrough would appear. Well , guess what ? it was all false, it peaked, it is all over, society today is way more backwards in all ways compard to the 1970s. People suck hugely in all possible ways, politics was a total failure, everything sucks so hugely it is not even funny. We are doomed, watch out for obama bin ladin the barrack guy, he is probably a terrorist in disguise waiting to perform the ultimate suicide bombing by nuking the USA and dying with it. He pushes the red button and nukes all major USA cities and goes to heaven to 77 vergins, the guy is masking, is a suicide terrorist, beware. Thee will be a huge hole in North America where there was once the USA. Beware of crazy people…

Wow, and we thought bush was bad! Imagine a president that self destroys the USA by pushing the red button against all of the USA, he would have just enough time to say “I fooled you all” and laugh his way to heaven.

But at least he will have 77 vergins waiting for him…

I am not old numbers, to old: get a life.

How on earth could a country that voted bush twice, hence mostly conservative right wing, vote a guy named obama saddam hussein bin laden barrack ? A guy that went to muslim terrorist schools in indonesia and tought that blowing up the usa with nukes and creating a big hole in north america would lead him to heaven and 77 vergins ?

Obviously those who voted him in the primaries wanted to be extra sure that the democratic party can’t win the next elections and they succeeded! How can people be so stupid and just give the next elections on a silver plate to bush 3 (mccain) ?

Well when bush 3 wins he will get rid of all public transit, reduce minimum wage to zero, get rid of all social security, get rid of all and any form of public health so you can just be left dying on a road if you don’t have a million dollars. What a great achievement the democratic primaries have!

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I wish!

-Imp

In Birmingham Alabama it’s not uncommon to see a bus blowing a big cloud of black smoke as it pulls away with just one or two people on board. No one here uses public transit. They tried to put a small bus line on campus for students to get from one end to the other, but it’s so covered up in derelects and crackheads that you wouldn’t want to ride the fucker in the first place. I did go to New York for spring break recently, and I can see how public transit can be a good thing, or even a necessary thing, but until you do something about the nasty crackheads who sit on the busses all day talking to themselves and stinking, no one here will even consider riding a bus.

peak oil won’t happen, so please get over it

On the other hand I like how subtle the right wing’s ideology is: mccain says the emphasis has to be on job training, education and skill sets. This serves three purposes:

  1. It brings the blame of your bad economic situation or joblessness squarely on your own back, you are the only one at fault, you don’t have the right skill sets, the right degree, the right training etc. let alone the fact that these skill sets and training change every year, like a moving target. So you are always concentrated on updating your skills and education for that new great paying job, you are always concentrated on yourself and your own faulty self, as guilt ridden;

  2. It feeds a huge business of education, training, courses, colleges and universities and schools of all kinds promising to sell you those killer skill sets;

  3. It keeps your mind occupied on your studies and doesn’t make you notice that the system is rigged, that a small set of rich capitalists are hosing everyone into this fairy tale of the right skills and skill sets.

I know alot of programmers who studied all the possible skills they could and have been laid off and can’t find any decent job. Why ? Well they don’t have the right skill set.

Just be honest and say that the greater the inequality a society has the better it is, since it rewards the strongest or luckiest, and cut all the moralistic guilt ridden crap of education and skill sets. The best societies are ones where everyone is a slave, is a worthless piece of crap and just one guy has everything, that is real progress.

Oh and by the way you have to be risk loving, put all your money in the stock market and watch as the CEO rips you off.

We live in a breadcrum era, everyone promises things, the truth is everything has peaked, there is nothing left, only breadcrums in science and in ecology and in politics etc.

right, life is a zero sum gain…

-Imp

Because those programmers suck.

If you don’t have skills there is no reason that you should be paid.

The left wing, democrats and liberals want to be paid for free, they have zero work ethic, they want a pure handout.

On the other hand, if you gave a pure handout of 10,000 dollars a year (equivalent to the minimum wage) to all 300 million americans, just to breath, just to stay home and sleep, just to exist and do nothing, that would be 3 trillion dollars. But the USA GDP is 10 trillion dollars a year, so where did the other 7 trillion dollars go ? Who ripped off 7 trillion dollars ? or is the GDP a false number ?

Old6598, just because you peaked doesn’t mean that everything peaked.