Assange on Afghanistan

How can the most powerful military in the world, with the most sophisticated technology on the planet, spend 20 years fighting 6th century tribesmen and not win? American military leadership cannot be that incompetent; there must be another reason.

In this old clip, Assange hits the nail on the head. Perpetual wars produce perpetual profits. The wars are meant to drag on and on as long as they can to squeeze out every last dollar from the tax payers.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFqL2JHzz2g[/youtube]

In 1935, General Smedley Butler – the most decorated man in the US military at that time – wrote a small book called ‘War is a Racket’. In it he said his entire career had been spent conducting war after war – mainly in the Central and South America – on behalf of corporations. America’s rise to the top was not because its people were the most intelligent, the most gifted or the freest but because America’s biggest corporations used the military, bribes, assassinations and threats to steal the wealth of other countries.

He summarized the book up by saying: so long as war is profitable, then we will always have wars. (There’s also a book called the Confessions of an Economic Hitman (John Perkins) which details the process corporations use before they use the military)

This is why they want to destroy Assange. It’s not about him publishing dirt on a politician but his exposés that undermine their lucrative never-ending wars.

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Since the 1920’s Afghanistan had increasingly modernized. Over time, laws were introduced that abolished forced marriages, child brides, selling women for marriage and polygamy. Women were encouraged to remove their veils and dress like westerners get an education and pursue careers. At one stage, nearly half of the doctors were women. The government also allowed the mingling of the sexes – even in movie theatres – and instituted a universal health care system. During the 1960’s women helped redraft the constitution, were allowed to vote and opened up the way for women to hold public office.

Unfortunately, for the Afghanis, they were socialist which made them buddies of the USSR and enemies of the USSA. When the Afghanis asked the Soviets to help fight off the Islamic militants, America stepped in and took the side of the Mujahideen. America seemed totally unconcerned that the Mujahideen (and/or the Taliban which was partially made up of Mujahideen) would then take over Afghanistan and turn it back into a stone-age culture where women were treated like cattle, sinners stoned to death or flogged in public.

And then we’re told America’s aim was to bring freedom, democracy and human rights to Afghanistan?

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9RCFZnWGE0 [/youtube]

One day, ordinary people will come to realize that we are run by mafia cartels in suits and ties.

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Chakra, I put the Assange clip on my facebook account, yesterday, I accompanied it with the following commentary:

"Hard to believe that this man was allowed to speak so openly - and, so honestly. A tad surprised that the folks he is criticising didn’t seek to silence him - somehow!
I’m sorry… what’s that? They did! What, and we all kept silent? Nah, wouldn’t happen. Us Brits wouldn’t let it happen, we’re better than that. :flags-wavegreatbritain: "

Needless to say, no one ‘liked’ it, or passed comment! :slight_smile:

Do I have your permission to copy and paste your comments?

I am seeing that it is all even worse than merely profiteering - the “Great Reset”.

The current US-Afghanistan debacle smells designed. There are too many indications that what is happening right now in Afghanistan (as well as the US southern border) is all designed, planned, and timed - none of it is accidental or circumstantial. Mr Obama and especially O’Biden have been very intentionally obeying those who are creating the current mess - and who intend to do far more to the point of gaining total authoritarian control over the entire world.

Money is merely the prime tool for getting power into the hands of those who want control - not merely more money. At one point - they have already spoken of having an economic reset to create a single global digital currency -along with all of the public surveillance that goes with it (Assange’s top issue).

This is another clip I think people should see (perhaps a few times over) so that it sinks into our heads what we have done and what we are doing.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=830DlDQXFgA[/youtube]

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Yeah, It’s a shame. Assange was given the opportunity to be released if he told the authorities who his source was and Trump offered to pardon him if he got involved in the Russia/Putin conspiracy theory so Trump would look good but he refused both and people think he’s some sort of bad guy.

Yeah, copy and paste all you like – just fix up any spelling or punctuation. :slight_smile:

Thanks. Appreciated.

American army is overrated. They won one war in the 20th century, and only after other nations did 90 percent of the work.

Afghanistan warrior culture goes back several millennia and these dudes have basically not ever been defeated.

In recent history, the country was free and democratic but the Soviets tried to subdue them, the Americans created this current force by giving them rocket launchers and the rest is history.

Americans are mostly very great at arming people that become their enemies. Except for Trump really.

I agree that there are bigger goals at play than just laundering money but I also think there are bigger goals than the devolvement of national borders into a one-world, totalitarian state run by unelected UN technocrats.

The piece de resistance in the warped minds of these psychopaths is to eventually transform the human race. This is where all this infotech, IoT, 5G/6G, quantum computing, biotech, nanotech, genetics (eugenics), augmented reality, AI, machine learning etc is going. I’m not sure the current experimental mRNA shots are as dangerous as some believe (I may be completely wrong about this) but I do see it as a presage of things to come even if they’re perfectly safe. Technologies like ‘quantum dot’ injections which hold all our health records ostensibly to show medical staff who has had what vaccine and when it was taken but there’s no doubt that this technology will increasingly carry more and more personal information. In the very near future, we will be coerced into accepting what amounts to human barcodes.

Transhumanism, posthumanism, Human 2.0 – call it what you like – but I can’t help but see this all links back to the billions of dollars being siphoned off from the never-ending wars.

A day before 9/11, Rumsfeld disclosed 2.3 trillion dollars had gone missing. Since then, there have been 20 years of non-stop wars where billions of dollars more have been siphoned off. Again, where is it going? Well, it’s not all going on luxury homes, cars and strippers. It can only mean that this enormous amount of money is being funnelled into secret ops. It wouldn’t be the first time. Remember the CIA has been busted for smuggling cocaine into the US to fund their surreptitious wars in Central America and selling weapons to ‘terrorists’ to fund clandestine operations in the middle east.

So yes, I agree that these wars are much more than a racket to increase their personal wealth or boost stock prices.
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So how does the view that the goal is to have an endless war stack up against the fact that US just left? Was Trump just a really genuinely good person with no interest in profit who wanted to see the war end?

It might not have been Trump, so the alternative is that Biden is just a really genuinely good person with no interest in profit who wanted to see the war end.

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I’ll reply to you tomorrow, FJ, I just thought we needed a little perspective on the sadness and horror of the situation
#PrayForAfghanistan

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Yes, the larger wars in the Middle East may be over for now but drone attacks on Yemen and bombing Somalia has started up again so the wars, ‘counter-terrorism operations’ or ‘conflicts’ continue. The main focus, now that the Middle East has largely been decimated, is to refocus and redeploy to the Asia/Oceania theatre.

LOL. Trump was a businessman. He thinks in terms of transactions, deals and profits and there were no reasons (profits) to stay in Afghanistan.

The career politicians, defense ‘experts’ and deep state operatives have different agendas. It’s not about profits for them; it’s about global strategies (NWO, WorldBank, IMF etc.) and for the Wall Street people and the economists, it’s about keeping the war machine running because the military industrial complex is about the only part of the U.S. economy that’s actually producing stuff. It’s the MIC that’s keeping the US dollar strong and propping up the U.S. economy.

Trump was also a builder. He got his kicks from building great things (often monuments to himself) but he never seemed interested in blowing stuff up. I guess it’s because it’s hard to put the Trump brand name on a piece of dirt.

Finally, Trump was a nationalist. In a world where we’re told to hand over our factories, technology, jobs, money, sovereignty, and even our way of life to accommodate foreigners, Trump wanted to take it all back and make America like it was in his heyday. This is why he wanted to end the useless wars and this is why he was hated by the internationalist and the ‘progressives’ and had to be removed.
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That’s interesting. I hadn’t heard that before. It wouldn’t surprise me if Trump wanted to keep counter-terrorism forces in Afghanistan. If true, then it’s the best strategy I’ve seen to date. I’m sure his supporters would have accepted it if it was explained to them.

I don’t think Biden’s a ‘genuinely good person’. During all of the decades he spent in public office, he never once opposed a single war – not one – so wanting to close down a 20 year war after his predecessor started the process, after deals with the Taliban had been made and after Trump handed back Taliban prisoners was more out of pragmatism than morals. It’s just a pity that Biden didn’t steal Trumps plan to kept a counter-terrorism force there until everyone was out. Had he have done that, he would have deserved some praise.

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I think it’s interesting that you managed to spin a situation in which Trump deliberately lied to gain political points into a story in which Trump is the good guy, and the guy who followed through on his lie (the lie that you apparently liked two seconds ago) is the bad guy lmao.

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Oh, I get what you’re saying. I was perplexed at what Trump’s lie was.

If Trump said he was going to withdraw all troops and then left some troops behind without telling the public, I’d agree with you, that would be a lie but I didn’t read it like that.

I didn’t think the person being interviewed was saying Trump was lying because he was secretly going to keep troops there but rather he was describing what would happen. Would Trump have told the public that some troops would stay behind? I guess so. He did that with Syria. America has always left troops on the ground even after the fighting has stopped. Look at Iraq. Look at Syria. Look at Germany and Japan :smiley:

I’m not trying to support Trump. I’m not a Trumper and the longer he was in office, the less I liked him but I do support withdrawing troops and I do support a slow withdrawal (preferably without artificial deadlines) so in that regard, I support Trump’s policy.

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I must apologize, I think I misread the implications of my own link. I didn’t understand what it was saying, and I’m not sure I still do

Not a problem. I think there are better things we can disagree on. :smiley:

An update:

A leaked British diplomatic memo sent in June to America’s allies states that the U.S. would maintain enough security to ensure the allies could get their troops, people and equipment out and continue to operate safety.

Boris Johnson couldn’t get hold of Biden for 18 hours, Germany and France couldn’t get anyone to talk to, and Canada’s Trudeau eventually got on to Hillary Clinton to see if she knew what was happening. LOL.

The British brought in 300 extra troops to help with the evacuation, Germany has brought in 2 special forces helicopters and soldiers, France has brought in 200 troops and Australia is probably unable to do much since we have our army checking to see if the covid-positive people remain home during the lockdown.

Finally, the Taliban have refuse to let educated Afghani’s leave and said that after the deadline just days away, the agreement ends…

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They want to keep their educated in their country, of course.