Attitudes Towards Depression

Mankind being a lucid creature are bound to have these “chemical imbalances” in the brain. This is what happens when one perceives the world.

Most people dont carry it through so that it takes over their lives, thats when it becomes depression in the medical sense. Its realy not hard to grasp

This is one way of looking at the problem and not necessarily the best way. Science tends to reduce things to certain easily measurable quantities. To assume that describing something in terms causes related to these measured entities or worse assuming that the metaphysics involved is the only or best metaphysics is actually doing a lot of damage. Just for a moment consider the variety of causal chains that are affecting those molecules, let alone shifting the whole issue to discussions based on emotions, interpersonal relations, self-esteem, cognitive patterns, spiritual issues and so on.

All of these chains cause the imballence of chemicals, which in turn make you feel depressed.

Aidan…no seriously. I want facts. not your pessimistic view of life.

Depression hurts, but you don’t have to.

That’s why there’s Cymbalta.

[size=67]In clinical studies of depression, the most common side effect of Cymbalta was nausea. For most people who had it, the nausea was mild to moderate and usually improved within 1 to 2 weeks.

Other common side effects included dry mouth, constipation, decreased appetite, fatigue, sleepiness, and increased sweating.

Most people were not bothered enough by nausea or these side effects to stop taking Cymbalta.

Your doctor may periodically check your blood pressure while you are taking Cymbalta. You should not stop taking Cymbalta without talking to your doctor. [/size]

[laughing]

Right.

[cue commercial with gentle music and old couple walking on the beach]

…side effects may include bleeding from the eyes, constipation, kidney stones, blindness, heart tremors, fever, stomach sickness, cramps, brittle nails, hair loss, high blood pressure, dizziness, and capitalist scum riding across the golf range on the cart you paid for by buying this medication to cure what you call “depression” while only being frustrated at a high gas bill, the fact that you are so old, and a husband who is no longer attracted to you.

I think a strong case could be made for saying that the imbalance is the feeling of being depressed. In other words the imbalance is an effect and not a cause. The pharmacological approach is addressing, often, a symptom, for example, and never really getting at causes.

That imbalance does not cause the feelings, they are one and the same. A part of the same pattern. We have no reason to accept this model over others, for example emotion/past experience based ones, or cognitive/b. based ones.

I can describe the physics of a kiss, but it may not help the shy teenage boy with his problem. In fact it is probably completely besides the point.

What is hard to grasp? We’ve all been medically depressed. Living is insanity, whether when it turns “medical” in society’s terms of not is irrelevant.

Where do you get off saying stuff like this? SHOW ME FACTS THAT EVERYONE HAS BEEN DEPRESSED.

You’re avoiding it because there are none. I’m tired of you spouting off how terrible life is and how everyone hates it when you can’t even back that up.

Stop the bullshit opinions and give me facts.

I can’t even believe you’re saying that the medical definition doesn’t matter. This is the most ridiculous thing you could do. You’re trying to do away with everything that could make you wrong, when indeed it’s needed to prove you correct.

But I’ll work on your level. Find a way to PROVE (not your opinion) that all humans have felt this form of “depression” you’re harping on about.

Me neither!

Actually, I think depression can be helped with self-discipline instead of a shrink.

[waits for it]

You might want to get acquainted with the works of this guy.

Why? If this is supposed to be proof everyone is depressed, it isn’t. I want proof. Not some miserable person trying to drag the world down with him.

The mere fact of your annoyance tells me you think otherwise! I’d like to see your proof that everyone isn’t depressed. Come on, where’s the proof.

I’m tired of you spouting off how life isn’t terrible and how everyone doesn’t hate it when you can’t even back that up.

Stop the bullshit opinions and give me facts.

Well I want facts for that otherwise. Not your dream world view of life.

oas.samhsa.gov/2k7/depression/occupation.htm

it is indeed higher than I had expected, but it is still not 100%

now where’s your facts?

and I’d like to point out annoyance isn’t depression. I love the reasoning though. very impressive.

And the point of that link was…?

Argue how we are not all depressed. How pain is only for a few etc.

Now where’s your facts?

fine. continue relying on your subjective interpretation of depression. in that case…everyone in my view secretly wants to molest children. and that’s a fact.

and here…I am not depressed. there is the only proof you need. you said everyone is depressed, but I am not. there.

and you could at least try to define depression. apparently to you it includes everything from suicidal thoughts to minor annoyance.

I’m working off the dictionary definition. and the fact that you said everyone IS depressed…not that everyone HAS BEEN depressed.

Depression is a very ambiguous term. Do you not agree?