axiom- war is immoral

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I’d take it one step further and claim the concept itself, that is an “absolute morale”, as being something that “exists”, is not reasonable by definition.

Aye, this thread and the countless others like it is evidence to support you there.

-Mach

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War can be created by conflicting moral ideals of life with such ideals being operated by immoral means of violence hence war is relative.

Since morality can’t sustain itself without violence and enforced coercion it is also immoral but at the same time being relative too.

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Athena, I get the idea you are referring to the Platonism thread, and see in mathematical necessities divine morals.
But that kind of code doesn’t go further than laws like “The shortest distance between two points is a straight line,” or what we discussed about the pentad. There is no judgement in these codes, just necessity.

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the moral code , in essence , is about survival , of your tribe , village etc. the survival of Humanity

and about " ALL is fair in love and War " has no idea how this stupid , destructive , immoral , unkind and wicked it can be.

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I do think that it’s moral to use military force to defend our economic interests around the world. We have to stay in a position to maintain a position where we can see to it that ungodliness and such can be fought against. Once we finish bombing everyone we can introduce them to Jesus and get them started on becoming moral people instead of the kind of heathens which make what you’re calling immoral necessary.

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" ungodliness and such can be fought against "

don’t you understand that it is exactly the point of view of the people whom you are fighting against you idiot???

oh the insanity of religion.

religion will be the down-fall of Humanity

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Ahem I wouldn’t know about any of that. The most significant thing I said was war is not immoral.

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Notices that everyone overlooked his reply. Typical.

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Hey Joker at least you’re not being called names. This guy north disagrees with me but has no thoughtful rebuttal so he calls me an idiot. Classic.

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Very true. People need new material…Idiot is so three hundred years ago. :slight_smile:

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LOL welcome to that particular club, happens all the time to me to… You get ignored because you are right and they are so wrong. They just hope you will go away… Thats my theory and I am sticking with it. :smiley:

I have yet to try a temper tantrum, Do you think that might work?

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A temper tantrum might be a good thing. As brilliant as I am, I have to admit that there’s probably something that I’m wrong about. When I figure out what it is, I’m going to start a thread and just go crazy defending it. Hopefully this will lead me to a more proper understanding of that yet to be determined subject.

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You being a chick throwing a tantrum might be hot to watch. :stuck_out_tongue:

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Depends on your definition of harm. medical science does very well from it

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There is no axiom for morality, morals are entirely subjective opinion of a specific collective.

There is no morality in or of war. War is necessary as a process. War is about resources, predicated on genetic dominance.

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War can be prevented.
War can be insighted.

It is large-scale conflict.

Some beings dislike conflict, and cannot handle it.
Other beings rejoice in conflict, and love the corpses.

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War can be prevented.

No it can’t, it can only be delayed.

War can be insighted.

I don’t understand what you mean by this statement.

It is large-scale conflict.

Not always, sometimes it is local.

Some beings dislike conflict, and cannot handle it.

The weak and fearful.

Other beings rejoice in conflict, and love the corpses.

We have too many humans, a little cleansing is to be celebrated. Dancing with the dead is an expression of life.

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LOL, I don’t know about that, I throw a tantrum and people usually disapear real quick. I tend to lean towards the real violent side of tantrum, berserker you can call it. Last berserker tantrum I had, caused serious multiple bruises and contusions on large male friends trying to settle me down. Took 5 of them to hold me and all got hurt. I was informed of all of this a couple of days later. I was young at the time ,in my early 30s or late 20s. Unfortunately my mild tantrums seem to scare folks off too. :laughing: :laughing: darlin, I don’t think you want to watch this chick in a tantrum, those that love me most , run or get defensive. It scares folks to see a 5’5" 110Lb redhead lose it :laughing: :laughing:

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5"5’ and 110lbs and red hair… I’m stopping right there.

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well you seem to see one side without relising the other side looks at the situation exactly the same way.

hence an impass

hence the circle of 300 yrs #-o