Black Police Affirmative Action would serve justice well.

Black Police Affirmative Action would serve justice well.

In light of Black over-representation in the criminal element, to have the same over-representation in the police forces would be the logical and intelligent thing to expect of a rational, and justice seeking people and society.

I suggest that Affirmative Action to place more Black men, and especially Black women, into our police forces would be serving justice and the American world well.

Are you Black and do you agree?

If you are Black and seek to be free and equal in your chosen country, then make it so.

If not, remain a second class citizen.

Regards
DL

I’m pretty sure that’s already happening (though I don’t know to what extent), and has been for some time. Here, found this on google:

foxnews.com/us/2011/03/19/pu … ores-ohio/

Also, I wanted to respond to this:

If black people are over-represented ‘in the criminal element’, is it not a risk then that by over-representing blacks in police forces that you will also increase the criminal element in police forces? By that I mean collaboration between police and, say, drug dealers or gangs, etc. I’m not saying that’s necessarily the case, but it seems at least like a possibility that’s not easy to shrug aside, something that has to be answered if you’re truly arguing for that policy.

I didn’t know about this until recently, but apparently there are quite a lot of gangs and gang members within the US military.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gang_prese … s_military

To get better police, the attitude of police and attitude towards police must change. It is only partially a racial issue, the other parts are class and culture. A suburban or middle class young person will look at a career as a policeman, an inner city young person will not as the police are hated and feared. And an upper middle-class to wealthy will not even consider it, as its beneath them.
Class and cultural upbringing has more to do with who becomes a cop then skin color.

You mean that less qualified individuals should be hired over more qualified individuals because the less qualified is a certain race which appears to be favored by some people because of certain political reasons and agenda? Sounds familiar?

How about we hire people according to how good of a job they do, instead of based on what color they are, doesn’t that sound 1) more fair and 2) that it will result in competent people in appropriate positions in society, which results in better functioning society overall?

Thanks for this. There is the odd force trying to do the right thing.

It shows how poor the teaching and training quality is that we provide blacks.

Keeping black stupid is not a good sign for the U.S.

Regards
DL

Thanks again.

The U.S. has always had many blacks die within it’s military. They were overrepresented at the point from what I understand as well. The U.'. abuse of it’s black population is shown in many ways.

To your question.
Yes. I would expect some black police to black criminal activity to increase as the number of black police rises. I don’t think we can forecast how much but this would be a small consideration when compared to the numbers of dead police if we do not act.

Regards
DL

Not when the system is discriminating against blacks as it is today.

I do generally agree in part with most of what you say. The attitude change must start with a color change in many forces, and when that happens, the respect will follow if it is deserved.

Regards
DL

I do not mean less qualified officers. More qualified would be the goal.

If and when A A would be considered, those standards could be improved.

There are too many police that are too quick to shoot people regardless of color and that attitude must stop.

Regards
DL

A black cop beating a black person does not make headlines nor does a black cop beating any other skin color…yet it occurs. When a white cop beats any but, a white person, it makes headlines. Look past the dramatic headlines and see beneath.

The way the media and police report crimes is an area that many recognize needs closer scrutiny and improvements.

But for sure that headlines should give facts and not titillation to drive ratings up.

The public loves their drama though and if a reporting agency does not cater to it, it will likely not last long.

Our love of drama is what drives most of our problems.

Remember the Chinese curse. May you live in interesting times.

Regards
DL

Affirmative action doesn’t mean making the standards higher, it means lowering the standards for a specific group of people because they are a certain race or gender.

But I do agree that you (Americans) need more qualified people in the force, I just think that the way to do it is to raise the standards and improve your education of police officers, NOT to make the standards lower and favor one race over the other.

I agree on all but the race issue.

Race is what is causing blacks to die at the hands of police at the 20 to 1 ratio.

To ignore that means settling for permanent black ghettos and increasing those who will seek revenge against the whites.

Whites have to get over themselves and stop being bigots.

With information systems improving all the time, whites cannot hide their vile bigoted attitudes anymore.

Regards
DL

I do think there is bigotry in the police against blacks, but I also think there is bigotry among the black hooligans against whites, and THAT is precisely the problem - bigotry breeds bigotry, what people should do is try to break the stereotypes and stop perpetuating the cycle, a change of mentality is required by both sides. We only see the worst cases in the media of black mobs picking on whites (conservative media) and of police killing black kids (liberal media), but none of the respectful and peaceful interactions between white police officers and blacks, because if that happens it’s ignored and it doesn’t sell as well. Yes, we need to be aware of the potential dangers, but also of nice things. There is too much hate and violence in modern media, and I don’t think it’s an accurate representation of reality.

No argument.

Unfortunately, I do not think any major change will come about until something like A A is introduced to end police discrimination against blacks.

It is that or wait for many more of both colors die.

I see A A as preventative medicine to prevent all out rebellion by blacks who are fed up with white discrimination.

If they see no hope or progress they will fight. So would you and I.

Regards
DL

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltimore_ … department

Baltimore PD for example is 43% black, so is the Police Comissioner, so is the Mayor.   Baltimore has been subject to a more strong "Make sure African Americans get in places of power regardless of qualifications" effort than any other city in the country. 
 I would say what cities need are cops that are qualified, not cops that fit the right demographics.

So the OP is based on a false premise- this is already being done, and the results are that it’s not helping.
Why would Affirmative Action in the police force work any better than it has elsewhere? We have a black POTUS and have had affirmative action for 30 years. I doubt very much anybody has said ‘no’ to a democrat/progressive in Baltimore for at least 2 decades.

Just like Detroit.

So what’s the evidence that a policy like this would accomplish anything good?

If A A was to be put into play, part of it’s mandate would be to raise the qualifications, not reduce them.

So your "“Make sure African Americans get in places of power regardless of qualifications” — does not apply to what I see happening but if people are stupid enough to throw the baby out with the bath water then I just have to recognize that I do not control that.

If they did drop standards as you say, that is likely why things are not working well.

I do not have evidence that A A would solve the racial problem but it would certainly reduce the perception of the force being racist. There is good evidence that A A helps minorities in other areas. You can google those yourself.

To do nothing means deciding to just live with the racism we have and to be happy with the 20 to 1 kill ratio we now have.

I don’t think the black community will tolerate this situation much longer and many white will fell the heat of black anger soon.

People, regardless of color, are getting fed us with poor U.S. law enforcement which is being pushed by a, for profit, legal system acting as another form of taxation.

Regards
DL

Your text is based on a proton pseudos and on propaganda (“affirmative action” and other forms of political correctness, thus dictatorship) which is also based on a proton pseudos. So all conclusions can only be false because the first premise is false.

And we are to just roll over because you say so without an argument.

Idiot.

Regards
DL

No argument? You need more than 100 words for saying nonsense, and if someone friendly says with a few words that your text is based on a false premise and propaganda which is also based on a false premise, then you have nothing better to do than to say even more nonsense. Your reaction is a typical reaction of an idiot.

Your reaction is again a typical reaction of an idiot.