Can dogs think phenominally?

When it comes to intelligence, two minds do not add up. It’s 1+1=1

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When you got caught out aeons ago, but you still playing the game like your cover hasn’t been blown… <— average minds be like.

MagsJ , the cover is merely a platitude as to what’s being covered, honestly

Like the one eyed minter rising as a colossus right in front of us, the untrustworthy being which is feeding on it’s own superposition, :upside_down_face:

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Or super imposition:

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Elon Musk says AI has already gobbled up all human-produced data to train itself and now relies on hallucination-prone synthetic data

By Sasha Rogelberg, 1 day ago

Fortune

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  • Artificial intelligence relies on vast amounts of data to train itself . But Elon Musk says models have already run out of human-created data, and have turned to AI-generated information to teach itself.

AI takes an immense amount of resources—from endless water to an estimated $1 trillion worth of investor dollars —but Elon Musk warned the technology has already run out of its primary training resource: human-created data.

Engineers and data scientists train AI by essentially reducing the entire internet, all books, and every interesting video published into a token that AI can digest and learn from, Musk told Mark Penn, CEO of marketing company Stagwell , in an interview streamed on X Wednesday. But AI has already consumed that information, and requires even more data to fine-tune itself.

“The cumulative sum of human knowledge has been exhausted in AI training,” Musk said. “That happened basically last year.”

In order to continue training, AI uses synthetic data that is also artificially generated. Musk likened the process to an AI model writing an essay and then grading the essay itself.

Tech giants like Microsoft , Google , and Meta have already turned to synthetic data to train their respective AI models. Google DeepMind used an artificially generated pool of 100 million unique examples to train its system AlphaGeometry to solve complex math problems, “sidestepping the data bottleneck” of human-generated information. In September, OpenAI introduced o1 , an AI model that can fact-check itself.

There are drawbacks to the widespread use of synthetic data for training models, Musk said. Synthetic data usage increases the likelihood of hallucinations, or nonsensical content that AI can share, believing it is completely true. Dubbed AI slop , these heaps of incomprehensible or just plain wrong information have already flooded the internet, raising concern among tech experts and users. Nick Clegg, president of global affairs at Meta, said in February the company is working to identify AI-generated content on its platforms.

“As the difference between human and synthetic content gets blurred, people want to know where the boundary lies,” Clegg said in a blog post .

Musk did not respond to Fortune ’s request for comment.

Scientists agree: Human data is finite

The finiteness of human-produced data to train AI has become a widely accepted issue in the tech community. A study released in June by research group Epoch AI predicted tech companies will run out of publicly available content to train AI language models between 2028 and 2032—a slightly more conservative projection compared to what Musk claims happened last year. The limited training resources could slow the current rate of AI development.

“There is a serious bottleneck here,” Tamay Besiroglu, one of the study’s authors, told the Associated Press . “If you start hitting those constraints about how much data you have, then you can’t really scale up your models efficiently anymore. And scaling up models has been probably the most important way of expanding their capabilities and improving the quality of their output.”

One reason why human-created information is becoming scarce is not just because AI is digesting it all, but also because owners of some of that data are apprehensive about AI using it. The MIT-led Data Provenance Initiative published a study in July finding the once-vast well of data for AI training was drying up. Looking at 14,000 web domains used in data sets for AI training, researchers found the online sources behind some of the data sets were restricting its usage, some by 45%, to keep bots from scraping their data. It’s part of a trend of data owners becoming sensitive to AI using their information, or wanting to be fairly compensated for that usage.

The future of AI training

Tech companies may no longer be able to rely on human-generated data for AI training, but they aren’t out of options.

“I don’t think anyone is panicking at the large AI companies,” Pablo Villalobos, lead author of the Epoch AI study, said in an interview with science journal Nature . “Or at least they don’t email me if they are.”

Some data scientists have not only turned to synthetic data, but also private information and deals with publications to have access to their content. OpenAI even reportedly had employees transcribe podcasts and YouTube videos to gather more training data, potentially violating copyright laws, according to the New York Times . OpenAI did not immediately respond to Fortune ’s request for comment.

Still, synthetic data continues to be the future of AI training. CEO Sam Altman told the Sohn Conference Foundation in 2023 the company would run out of content to feed its models, but suggested as the production of synthetic data continues to improve, it will help solve the content crisis.

“As long as you can get over the synthetic data event horizon where the model is good enough to create good synthetic data, I think you should be alright,” he said.

This story was originally featured on Fortune.com

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Is master musk there with dog?

Trump is a transhumanist masquerading as a “conservative”. Of course he will utilize these death drones.

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Robo-dogs can’t get hurt or killed, but he can, so I see the appeal… for him.
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…also, I’m quite impressed that he has taken-up tech.

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Well… if you recall he was the one who pushed warpspeed on the transhuman “vaccines” (gene therapy) injections. Sure he wasn’t about forcing anyone to take them, but he still bragged about getting them done in record time (skipping safety testing) and said he thinks they were really great.

Once you study more about transhumanism and the kind of goals and ends these crazy new technologies have, you stop being so fascinated and intrigued by this tech and become more and more alarmed. Think about social media, what has this done to human sociality? Gen Z is all but fucked because of this, not to mention the pron addictions and gaming addictions too. I can’t even bear to think about Gen alpha, what a mess they are going to be in another decade most of them having imbibed this stuff from infancy. People won’t need each other anymore, they will just plug into the matrix. “Own nothing and be happy” too. Perfect slave society.

Then you have Facebook announcing it will be setting up AI accounts on its platforms, fully AI self-generated “users” with profiles and pictures and making posts and comments. Imagine the ontological confusion that is going to occur, that is already occurring.

Seeing progress as the end all, be all, always forever good and right thing for our society is a pathological attitude to take, but people like Trump take it. They think only in terms of GDP growth and power. Note that the inherent love-worship of ‘progress’ as such and for its own sake, which we are ALL conditioned to accept without even realizing it, is at the heart of progressivism as an ideology especially in terms of neoliberalism and all of the global integrations, sovreignty losses, brain drains, mass surveillance systems and kill grids and biodigital convergence and all the rest of it…

So yeah. The president of the united states utilizing Terminator kill drones and openly accepting and pushing every possible technological edge with zero thought to the real-world social and interpersonal, human and psychological and cultural consequences of those technologies, isn’t exactly something we should be excited about.

Sure, for prior warped speed information expansion, that excitement would have been way over the top.

But as we are peaking toward criticality in most aspects of intervariable experience, the substantial content of past experience is becoming mute (the erasure of history qua memory-a premise becoming more and more validated, from different points of view and from different angles of derivation of data), the result is becoming more certain, that the content is drained by the con-tension.

That:

Utilization of cyber processes , technologies and instruments turn the bell curve upside down as far as it supports the age old philosophical argument that argues for the stability of ‘it is, what it is ‘ against ‘what it should be’ argument.

This is for those the recognition that the naturalistic fallacy is being solved, by filling the variability of functional equivalents with definite, yet compensating functional derivatives.

That is , simply, man can not live in a world, where how should he live ever escapes the realm of futile theatrical aesthetics. Modern art of abstracting reality from the uncollecible accumulated data, if present trends were allowed to continue, is like the cat chasing it’s own tale, a tale befitting of middle aged alchemy, that universally proceeds to signs of personal crisis as well.

Chaos, is the term for a social disease which if left untreated parallels the woes of man who’s need to recollect by revising the real truth behind the goldenness of classical ages left behind: the simplicity, the grandeur,the elegance of it, are much confused and deceived by it, for that deception IS the cause of the sadness of civilizational discontent, it’s romantic distance from it’s source.

The simulation of such emergent power, has little to do with an individual’s insight, rather it has to do with the social otherness, it’s massive will to continue to survive no matter what, because IT can never, ever end. IT has no beginning to begin with, so how on earth can IT ever end?

This is the true nature of techne, it is the inside assurance that an outside covering which it can convert to to those who can only believe what they actually see.

You might say this is kids’ stuff, but aren’t we all like becoming kids, seeking personal revelation, and guidance, whereas such we already possess through the internal dialogue thought to be other than the expression of assurance that have always been limited by a prior infallible belief in the fate of our fathers?

Lest we forget that, as well.

Little boys, unable to tolerate loosing their primal power, grow into dangerous little big boys, and explode the power of doubt, of thought, by their rage and anger, over the machine they were forced to transform into.

The did not invent the energy to fuel their will to remain angry , they were created by a power to conform their will to others including boys and girls outside their neighborhood, regardless of how they despise the controls that require them to see that.

It’s possible for a species to choose to control technology, value their spiritual essence and unique living consciousness against the technological, or the inverse a species can let itself be controlled by technology, abandon their spiritual living essence and merge with the machine. I am sure the universe is full of species who went down either road.

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Do you want to be a Bodhisattva, or a Borg? We can delay the choice for a long time, but we’re always trending in one direction or the other.

Not sure but then:

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What’s in a name…

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She’s not with me any more. I’m sure if she was, she would be saying, ‘‘Does he mean phenomenally?’’ :smiley:


It is a while since I had teenage daughters! There was a time when I had the capacity to let loose a stream of consciousness. This was penned when there was talk of plans to build houses on the fields that we walked. It went no further than the offices of PCH&N. Chapter two in my forthcoming bildungsroman, PK! :roll_eyes: :joy:
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What does it imply?
It implies that dogs behave in accordance with nature. They share a connection with nature herself. Very few humans, save for children and young infants, display a present centered state of consciousness - a connection.
When I engage with my fourteen month old granddaughter, she will very often - I am very often left with the feeling that I am teaching my granny to suck eggs.

Dogs? Back in the day, I would take Rosie, a German Shepherd, to a nearby beach. We played a game; I would pick up one of thousands of pebbles laying on the shore, toss it into two or three feet of water, wherein there were a countless number of pebbles, and Rosie would retrieve and return the very same pebble I had thrown. It was bordering on phenomenal. :smiling_face_with_tear:

I miss her. Can dogs think phenomanally? It’s a yes from me! :joy:

Indeed pictures can not make stories, unless they looked real, and … a presentment can not a presumptive falsehood make.

Unless:

Parallelism, synchronicity and overlapping

Live it and try to sleep like a baby for the rest of your life, have your teenager run the life

Stories?

There are stories that can not be written, not only because the kids’ memory is fallible, but it’s still , in the works.

Will it work? Or another case of manifest destiny.

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Of course it’s hard to respond to people who do not parallel. The synch that may link them together, but it ie a new world order predicted by this here brave new world

Here is a sample gleaned from The Atlantic

A real flow maybe applicable in total or partially relative:

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I lost the fascimile, but the story is titled:

The reason I included this ‘real’ parallelism has to do with the noted hidden synchronous events that go on hidden, as if they ceased to exist, giving energy to the flow of events, which like the flow of still photos giving rise to the images attributed to moving pictures,

In fact they did not start to movie until fairly recently, and relatively speaking, roughly corresponded to the period in world history to the ages of revolt.

From Atlantic Daily Newsletter

The broligarchs have a vision for the new Trump term. It’s darker than you think.

The real reason Musk, Zuckerberg, and Bezos are supporting Trump.

There’s a dominant narrative in the media about why tech billionaires are sucking up to Donald Trump: Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg, and Jeff Bezos, all of whom have descended on the nation’s capital for the presidential inauguration, either happily support or have largely acquiesced to Trump because they think he’ll offer lower taxes and friendlier regulations. In other words, it’s just about protecting their own selfish business interests.

That narrative is not exactly wrong — Trump has in fact promised massive tax cuts for billionaires — but it leaves out the deeper, darker forces at work here. For the tech bros — or as some say, the broligarchs — this is about much more than just maintaining and growing their riches. It’s about ideology. An ideology inspired by science fiction and fantasy. An ideology that says they are supermen, and supermen should not be subject to rules, because they’re doing something incredibly important: remaking the world in their image.

It’s this ideology that makes MAGA a godsend for the broligarchs, who include Musk, Zuck, and Bezos as well as the venture capitalists Peter Thiel and Marc Andreessen. That’s because MAGA is all about granting unchecked power to the powerful.

“It’s a sense of complete impunity — including impunity to the laws of nature,” Brooke Harrington, a professor of economic sociology at Dartmouth College who studies the behavior of the ultra-rich, told me. “They reject constraint in all of its forms.”

As Harrington has noted, Trump is the perfect avatar for that worldview. He’s a man who incited an attempted coup, who got convicted on 34 felony counts and still won reelection, who notoriously said in reference to sexual assault, “When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.”

So, what is the “anything” that the broligarchs want to do? To understand their vision, we need to realize that their philosophy goes well beyond simple libertarianism. It’s not just that they want a government that won’t tread on them. They want absolutely zero limits on their power. Not those dictated by democratic governments, by financial systems, or by facts. Not even those dictated by death.

The broligarchs’ vision: Science fiction, transhumanism, and immortality

The broligarchs are not a monolith — their politics differ somewhat, and they’ve sometimes been at odds with each other. Remember when Zuck and Musk said they were going to fight each other in a cage match? But here’s something the broligarchs have in common: a passionate love for science fiction and fantasy that has shaped their vision for the future of humanity — and their own roles as its would-be saviors.

Zuckerberg’s quest to build the Metaverse, a virtual reality so immersive and compelling that people would want to strap on bulky goggles to interact with each other, is seemingly inspired by the sci-fi author Neal Stephenson. It was actually Stephenson who coined the term “metaverse” in his novel Snow Crash, where characters spend a lot of time interacting in a virtual world of that name. Zuckerberg seems not to have noticed that the book is depicting a dystopia; instead of viewing it as a warning, he’s viewing it as an instruction manual.

Jeff Bezos is inspired by Star Trek, which led him to found a commercial spaceflight venture called Blue Origin, and The High Frontier by physics professor Gerard K. O’Neill, which informs his plan for space colonization (it involves millions of people living in cylindrical tubes). Bezos attended O’Neill’s seminars as an undergraduate at Princeton.

Musk, who wants to colonize Mars to “save” humanity from a dying planet, is inspired by one of the masters of American sci-fi, Isaac Asimov. In his Foundation series, Asimov wrote about a hero who must prevent humanity from being thrown into a long dark age after a massive galactic empire collapses. “The lesson I drew from that is you should try to take the set of actions that are likely to prolong civilization, minimize the probability of a dark age and reduce the length of a dark age if there is one,” Musk said.

And Andreessen, an early web browser developer who now pushes for aggressive progress in AI with very little regulation, is inspired by superhero stories, writing in his 2023 “Techno-Optimist Manifesto” that we should become “technological supermen” whose “Hero’s Journey” involves “conquering dragons, and bringing home the spoils for our community.”

All of these men see themselves as the heroes or protagonists in their own sci-fi saga. And a key part of being a “technological superman” — or ubermensch, as the German philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche would say — is that you’re above the law. Common-sense morality doesn’t apply to you because you’re a superior being on a superior mission. Thiel, it should be noted, is a big Nietzsche fan, though his is an extremely selective reading of the philosopher’s work.

The ubermensch ideology helps explain the broligarchs’ disturbing gender politics. “The ‘bro’ part of broligarch is not incidental to this — it’s built on this idea that not only are these guys superior, they are superior because they’re guys,” Harrington said.

For one thing, they valorize aggression, which is coded as male. Zuckerberg, who credits mixed martial arts and hunting wild boars with helping him rediscover his masculinity (and is sporting the makeover to prove it), recently told Joe Rogan that the corporate world is too “culturally neutered” — it should become a culture that has more “masculine energy” and that “celebrates the aggression.”

Likewise, Andreessen wrote in his manifesto, “We believe in ambition, aggression, persistence, relentlessness — strength.” Musk, meanwhile, has jumped on the testosterone bandwagon, amplifying the idea that only “high T alpha males” are capable of thinking for themselves; he shared a post on X that said, “This is why a Republic of high status males is best for decision making. Democratic, but a democracy only for those who are free to think.”

This idea that most people can’t think for themselves is key to Nietzsche’s idea of the ubermensch. What differentiates the ubermensch, or superman, is that he is not bogged down by common-sense morality (baseless) or by God (dead) — he can determine his own values.

The broligarchs — because they are in 21st-century Silicon Valley and not 19th-century Germany — have updated and melded this idea with transhumanism, the idea that we can and should use technology to alter human biology and proactively evolve our species.

Transhumanism spread in the mid-1900s thanks to its main popularizer, Julian Huxley, an evolutionary biologist and president of the British Eugenics Society. Huxley influenced the contemporary futurist Ray Kurzweil, who predicted that we’re approaching a time when human intelligence can merge with machine intelligence, becoming unbelievably powerful.

“The human species, along with the computational technology it created, will be able to solve age-old problems … and will be in a position to change the nature of mortality in a postbiological future,” Kurzweil wrote in 1999. Kurzweil, in turn, has influenced Silicon Valley heavyweights like Musk, whose company Neuralink explicitly aims at merging human and machine intelligence.

For many transhumanists, part of what it means to transcend our human condition is transcending death. And so you find that the broligarchs are very interested in longevity research. Zuckerberg, Bezos, and Thiel have all reportedly invested in startups that are trying to make it possible to live forever. That makes perfect sense when you consider that death currently imposes a limit on us all, and the goal of the broligarchs is to have zero limits.

How the broligarchs and Trump use each other: Startup cities, crypto, and the demise of the fact

If you don’t like limits and rules, it stands to reason that you’re not going to like democracy. As Thiel wrote in 2009, “I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible.” And so it shouldn’t come as a surprise that the broligarchs are trying to undermine the rule of democratic nation-states.

To escape the control of democratic governments, they are seeking to create their own sovereign colonies. That can come in the form of space colonies, a la Musk and Bezos. But it can also come in the form of “startup cities” or “network states” built by corporations here on Earth — independent mini-nations, carved out of the surrounding territory, where tech billionaires and their acolytes would live according to their own rules rather than the government’s. This is currently Thiel and Andreessen’s favored approach.

With the help of their investments, a startup city called Prospera is already being built off the coast of Honduras (much to the displeasure of Honduras). There are others in the offing, from Praxis (which will supposedly build “the next America” somewhere in the Mediterranean), to California Forever in, you guessed it, California.

The so-called network state is “a fancy name for tech authoritarianism,” journalist Gil Duran, who has spent the past year reporting on these building projects, told me. “The idea is to build power over the long term by controlling money, politics, technology, and land.”

Crypto, of course, is the broligarchs’ monetary instrument of choice. It’s inherently anti-institutionalist; its appeal lies in its promise to let people control their own money and transact without relying on any authority, whether a government or a bank. It’s how they plan to build these startup cities and network states, and how they plan to supplant the traditional financial system. The original idea of crypto was to replace the US dollar, but since the US dollar is intimately bound up with global finance, undercutting it could reshape the whole world economy.

Trump seems to be going along with this very cheerfully. He’s now pro-crypto, and he’s even proposed creating “Freedom Cities” in America that are reminiscent of startup cities. His alliance with the broligarchs benefits him not only because they’ve heaped millions of dollars on him, but also because of how they’ve undermined the very notion of the truth by shaping a “post-truth” online reality in which people don’t know what to believe anymore. Musk, under the guise of promoting free speech, has made X into a den of disinformation. Zuckerberg is close on his heels, eliminating fact-checking at Meta even though the company said it would be scrupulous about inflammatory and false posts after it played a serious role in a textbook example of ethnic cleansing.

“Even more pernicious is the fact that these guys can control the algorithms, so they can decide what people actually see,” Duran said. “The problem is not so much that people can lie — it’s that the system is designed to favor those lies over truth and reality.”

It’s a perfect setup for a president famous for his “alternative facts.”

But the underlying ideology that unites MAGA and the broligarchs is contrary to the aims of most ordinary Americans, including most Trump voters. If the US dollar is weakened and the very idea of the democratic nation-state is overthrown, that won’t exactly “make America great again.” It’ll make America weaker than ever.

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I don’t think commentary is needed here

Now you’re starting to get it. Nice article for once.

Wait what does this have to do with dogs again?