Can you be dead

When any idea is challenged, there is no shortage of rabid posters claiming “TROLL”.

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..but that’s exactly what you are.. :index_pointing_up:t3:

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Now take the L and f off!

Thanks for that repeat. I totally missed it the first time. I am quite honored that you are still thinking about that, and I don’t even have to pay rent to be in your head right now.

It taught me so many things about not defending you. You can definitely handle yourself. I strive to be like you every day. Teach me more.

When we talk about life in the modern sense we talk about fullfilling one’s individual/biological potential… alas for some this has not been possible due to environmental/social stressors.

What you are left with may be termed the ‘walking dead’.

It’s because some things are undefinable, perhaps even less then that, even beyond belief it’s self.

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…and in this instance, with my reply, I don’t think I’m wrong.

I hope she’s all right…

I’ll chant to pray for her.

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Are you gonna whack yourself in the head when you chant, Meno?

@Destiny, no. It is not possible to be a walking dead. Chickens with their heads cut off eventually stop running. And that’s why you have to double tap zombies.

However, it is possible to be a dead man walking. Unless they do away with the death penalty. Unless you consider the fact that usually everybody dies eventually, We’re all dead men or women walking in that case. Unless you accept the fact that God thinks you’re the bees’ knees and you don’t have to beat yourself up for all the imperfections he died & resurrected (except not like a zombie) to show you he loves you in spite of … Then, you’re just gonna live forever, even if you die. That means you can say of at the end of a sentence and …it’s not gonna kill you. And stuff like that.

…very commendable Meno, me too but sending healing-thoughts, not chanting.

To some death is a release, for some respite, others?

Were coming to the point where the quantum genesis will equivocate with the ‘nemesis’ approximated with in nearly indiscreet revision, where that goddess of retribution may have seen what’s coming,

a dissolution, a solution of which may not have partaken that of which so purely we were guided,

That : if one can become that of which was spoken as being within the light, as earnestly yearned for after, if one can so become:

Then no surprises are forthcoming, for it is then thereafter as before. There is no change or movement away from before to after, everything is changeless and the apparitions only suggest a change in the adjustment of the aperture. from zero to limitless .

If you need a proximate focus, that adjustment will carry through pretty much to that point, beyond which is anathema.

Jim Morrison thought death was exciting and a journey he was looking forward to.

The difference between thoughts healing and chanting is akin to the difference between zen and Nichiren Buddhism, as far as their immediate origin goes, and ends pretty much on the same note: from alpha to omega.

One expects to transcend the way, the other evokes the resounding calculus of all preceding and forthcoming lives through time.

Sure, through the doors of perception , open the shutters that either lead to others’ doors either more saturated and dark, or more lit up and vivid.

At a crucial point, the lens can no longer record unto particular film of memory, something other points, such blockages it can. Photo synthesis is the premordial dialectic.

Stimulation and simulation are both functionally related at some point in spacetime.

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Healing thoughts pre-date Buddhism One would think, so going back to the [original] source of ‘being’.

Which ever mode One uses, all that matters is that it helps… :smiling_face:

This IS true, but then time(as doubly edged- esensed time and measured time) would indicate a progression of equanimity between them, so that as certain limits are reached, between the narrowing of difference between sensed and experienced time,

added to the fade out of memory, makes archaic temporal differences impercievable, as the 500 years ago origin of Buddhism’s source and the 5000 year temporal origin of helping skills in ancient history, can not be recognized as more time passed, as seconds of difference can be measured by the most accurate time measuring device.

Time stretches relatively as has been observed, so we should be able to put such differences pretty much to rest, or very near to that.

Even as we experience that through that regard, adds another slice of unreality of how total cessation of consciousness re; life, could be defined absolutely .

LOL,LOL

But seriously can you be dead as a door nail?
Supposing while conscious one does not exist to live to experience anything else but being in a dark vat. I am afraid of immersing myself in a sense deprivation tank, for that’s probably the nearest thing to being dead.

But that’s on my bucket list and am determined to try it out, A while ago while still gaping and vaping for decades, I d think to myself I’ll get good and heigh and immerse myself in the deprivative tank, I dunno how long but then a Soviet experiment came to mind resulting in similar drug induced states, so I kind of hesitated doing that.

I will search for that study, meanwhile I could not really dose on LSD when at my point of death , like Timothy Leary did or,could or would I?

What ever would I loose?

Going out anyway!

How are you going to block your senses from your internal states and memories?

I wonder if science even knows how to do that. Would such experiments be ethical?

How does it differ from the deepest level of sleep?

Here’s the thing about that. How is the person going to report that it was successful— Without it being an utter failure? lol

And besides that, people have reported stuff they shouldn’t have been able to report if they had actually been brain dead… but that is under a naturalistic/materialistic worldview.

But this is if you interpret death biologically.

In the below Soviet experiment, the gulag prisoners did their own blocking of any sense of other then staying alive-awake.

It was done ‘ethically’ under the dictator Stalin.

Here is a sort or virtual replay:

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() it’s kind of interesting their willingness to stay awake (alive) even when they only felt the connection between the deepest sleep and death.

What resulted kept global researchers exited about the possibilities of further research, and the results were judged as a success, by global researchers to this day.

You are right, no one could ask Leary about what he went through in the interim, for he wasn’t coming back, though no one really knows except ones that do come back and report.(Dr, Moody) but then most of those patients did not alter their perceptions by ingesting hallunatives.

I will still indulge, in the near future, as I mentinrd it to Mags, another person did as well, the guy who studied some kind of fish alongside of them to understand their modes of communication.

John Lily’s work with dolphins.