I was so stunned by the fact that you must be a male jerk to get sex from a woman, that it caused me to become self absorbed away from the basic problem!
1.) different people want the same thing
2.) you can’t make everyone happy
Let me back up…
What if a billion people all want the same partner or the same house ??
Making everyone happy?? If you date someone, someone is pissed, if you don’t date someone, someone else is pissed!
I solved this equation!!!
We all split into philosophic zombie worlds controlled by the people themselves from their own world !!
Example : A lesbian is not going to have sex with me!!
But if she controlled herself like a marionette in another realm or plane of existence … I could have sex with her, without having sex with her…
This is all really complicated, but perhaps you get the gist of it…
We all get separated into philosophic zombie worlds (except us) where people are manipulating towards our desired informed consent with a small portion of their being in infinite worlds to allow us in our total potence , to live exactly the life we want without hurting anyone!
It always comes down to sex. Can’t get away from it. But there s philosophic interest in identifying the source of the unhappiness which it (the sex) can cause the trouble and unhappiness in life.
Ok as long as you don’t share worlds I suppose ~ as that would be horrendous. Can you imagine a place where all human fantasies were made real [this world only has some].
Separate zombie worlds would be a bit like robotic blow up dolls which do as you want, so why not just make some of them? Point is that there is a narcissistic only element to the equation.
If I live in a house people hate me… Those who have ethical philosophical nomadism… If I don’t live in a house… All the people in houses think I’m scum…
How do you solve this problem??
The point I’m making… Is that everyone who accepts something that others may want, IS the narcissist !!
So where does that leave you??
Oh, that makes you the narcissist !!
I’ll argue philosophically that my solution is anti-narcissistic !!!
I don’t get it. Are you saying the solution to our desire to have our sexual way with someone without hurting them is to create a zombie world in which we are the only living, conscious being and everyone else is a zombie?
Great! Now the only problem is to figure out how to create a zombie world!
Also, suppose your fantasy was to have sex with a girl who was actually repulsed by you in the non-zombie world? How does having a zombie copy of her in the zombie world change that? I mean, supposing you weren’t into rape.
Imagine a lesbian moving a marionette to have sex with you… No skin off her nose, she both did, and didn’t have sex with you, she never violated her lesbianism !! This is only a fraction of her mind… Now, imagine that marionette is actually her body!!, being controlled by her mind!! It’s her, but not her!
In your own world, it’s a co-creation with others without actually violating who you are and who they are, simultaneously !!
This is why it’s beginning to look more and more possible. It can not be sweeped under the carpet, it has to be dwelt with. The point being, is that if such were the case, that Narcissists would/could run the world, a hierarchy of cults of personalities would take up the slack, from the vacuouscity of a virtual world, …and the way that’s coming down, it’s bound to happen
Well if there are not two parties only you and automatons of a given kind, or the fantasy equivalent. It doesn’t mean you are [in this idea] narcissistic, it means the scene is ~ for want of better terms.
People hate what [an ignorance] they are scared of, but in my experience there are clusters of people who have a different more intelligent sub-culture [e.g. a culture whereby the inquirer is not going to think they can look at someone and come to an intelligent judgement about them just by doing that]. Its just the world is a bit of a fuckup, and so one tends to become disparate from those ‘right kinds of people’, usually when you need them most. Lol
You mean that by being receptive is indicative of ones self love? I’d agree, and I think there is a narcissistic element to love. After all when someone kisses another, for the first microsecond [the time it takes for the signal to reach your brain get calibrated and processed] it is only the brains projection ~ an assumption of what a kiss should feel like.
Probably isn’t anything wrong with narcissism ~ except when there is only that!
ok. well it is possible to have sex without love and even for money, so it would follow that it is possible to have droid-sex or some such thing, and without any love. Ergo we are agreed there. It is not an obvious love solution but is an obvious sex solution.
So what limits do we place upon this freedom? If humans can do anything in the alt world and have anyone, then they would know what people look like naked. If we assume that you want the ‘actors’ in the sex play to act the same way as the real people, then you would know what a given lady is like in bed ~ something of an intrusion in both cases i’d say.
I think that there will be the proportion of people who are/aren’t offended.
Another potential problem >for some< would be where the type of fantasies one acts out, manifests an ever greater desire to be made real. If we consider that that is what the brain is trying to do generally, that it makes up an inner world which makes a best fit world for the conscious experiencer. Then that this process can be summarised as an effort to make illusions real, then we can see how easy it is for peoples fantasies to spill over into reality [yes that old chestnut]. Wont there always be a proportion who fall into the group ‘does let fantasies spill into reality’ and those who don’t. Therefore the universal freedom you propose would in some cases be the thing causing infractions on peoples lives?
I am not making a complaint btw, I think this pertains to philosophies about how we act in a very real possible future, one with robotic sex dolls, which could be of any ilk. it needs to be debated prior to that happening ideally.
I take a pretty strong stance against AI , because it might suffer greatly… I won’t enumerate all those reasons, but I basically think it’s an asshole thing to do.
The way this works is that it’s real people manipulating puppets of themselves… So let’s say the mind is vast, perhaps infinite, these real people are controlling their philosophic zombies on your world WHILE living in their own world, BUT, everyone controls all the philosophic zombies to your desires and desired consent !! So it’s them, but not them…
I’d be using a fraction of my mind to be animating an infinite number of philosophic zombie Jason’s … Not robots! To clarify!
As I see ~ as if living infinite lives. So you are with real people but not as they are in this world and this life. Makes sense now. its a bit like being the last two on a desert island, so you are probably going to get it on, try anything etc. thus an infinite amount of lives and interactions between people, would result in everyone eventually having every kind of sex. so now in your theory you are kinda jumping into that.
