Chaos

There must be more than one kind of chaos.
Let’s say the easiest and the best forms of chaos became the norm.
That chaos became the definition of realness, because it is the most wide spread expression of reality and itself.
Its chaos-ness was ignored or forgotten, in favor of the realness it seems to be.

I’ve been wondering if reality and myself is just a bunch of chaotic subconsciousness.

It flatters people to think they are a person, to think they are in control of their life and their own body.
I think this doesn’t serve true on a deeper examination, though.
Chaos exists when no force exerts order against or counter to chaos.
We live in a world of allowance. I think a lack of an absolute God figure automatically leads to the idea that there is some degree of chaos in our world. A large degree of chaos. Chaos also does not obey laws or form laws usually, it is simply a phenomenon of space and time. When time and space interact, the whole process is a type of chaos.

Maybe some wont agree, but this is one of my latest inner thoughts about how the world works and who I am.

Most definitely. The chaos is there, but also there is the order. You can’t always remember what you want to remember and some times you forget important things for long periods of time. It’s not especially hard to get lost in the chaotic undertow of life itself through the various aspects of your own mind. I think the Universe has only ever spoken of a balance between chaos and order; where there is the known and predictable and then the random factor.

We can SEE this as we observe the Universe with modern technology.

I have another theory, though: chaos is only chaos when it can’t view itself properly. When it can view itself properly there is order. There is always order, but it doesn’t always see it. There is a natural chain of events; cause and effect. Or, when you view the entire picture at once from a singular perspective where the picture is flat instead of the whole that it is. Compressed upon itself to where nothing makes sense and everything blends together.

Drawing it out of itself shows the chain of events that lead to each thing in turn, but only from the use of multiple perspectives. I think the Universe exists to observe itself. When it no longer needs to do so, the Universe will no longer exist until chaos enters again.

Thanks for your contribution.
I have little to say in response though.
Maybe I’ll have more to say later.

Chaos was never complexity…occult order.

Chaos was the antithesis of order…..and both are part of nature.

Yin/Yang

Modern man converted the absolutist, totalitarian god of Abraham into a secular form, calling it totalitarian order.

This is why they reject free-will….and make a mockery of natural selection.

Creationism by any other name.

For, if all were ordered, and governed by totalitarian order, then how would life and big brains evovle?

In what way does life differ from non-life?

Chaos doesn’t concern man the least bit. It’s useless metaphysical drivel that has become an emo classic in philosophy. Mathematicians use it to reckon storms 'n shit but as a philosophical concept, it’s useless. For album covers, sure, but not philosophy. I see order everywhere i look, and for something to be truly random, it would have to detach itself from the material world of forces… would have to be completely independent of any causal affectance from anything. Nay, nothing is outside order, and perceiving patterns or not is irrelevant. I know chaos is impossible a priori. And even if you thought you caught a glimpse of chaos, you’d only need to look closer. A system that is merely unpredictable is not chaotic… that’s a perception problem only. No possible universe could exist in such a state as chaos and entropy occurs by very specific thermodynamic rules that govern energy loss rates and all that shit. Not even it is disordered.

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With that there is balance in all things. Reality cannot order itself to chaotically destroy it’s own self. Thus being inevitably limitless and whole, although forms of this is different if you think more in matters of cosmology. How small is something as Astronomically big as the sun from the furthest distance? It still is there yet exists separate yet in the same pretense. As one dreams they forget the better half of the dream cause there was no dream.

You must see the harmony in all things then come to terms whether or not you want to be apart of such a world or take part in it’s destruction as with the rest of the human race. Chaos bred disorder which caused rebellion forming pandemonium, disorganized madness and complete lawlessness. Yet while all this happened, Order ruled ordinance and the formation of systems to create laws and fracture this over and over again by the destruction of chaos’s will. Although where chaos followed Order it went like this, a turbulent-organized cycle of sheer mad control. Who’s whim? There’s still questions and answers to be known: Please See Next —→

Out of random (chaotic) interactions order emerges (pattern)……and through order, patterned interactions chaos increases…..

Yin/Yang.

Linear time.

From near-absolute order towards near-absolute disorder.

From this increasing chaos a new near-absolute - an incomplete singularity experienced as a black hole, or a Big Bang - order emerges, restarting the cosmic cycle.

How bounding is time in this sequence? Seems infinite yet still snaps back at it’s entropy. It seems to unravel yet still be expanding am I wrong?

Or is Space as limitless as Time to the point where they never even touch just follow eachother in endless creation and destruction?

Time measures change, relative to man’s metabolic rate or a consistent standard, like the vibration of quartz or the earth’s seasons, or the moon, etc.

Time = change.

Interactivity is change. Flux.

Yes….what we call existence or universe or world, is an iteration in an endless process.

This one happened to have the conditions for life to emerge in one of its locations….but others may not.

Space = possibilities.

As with energy right. Same with Oblivion and endings thus is a start afterwards? Eternity hurts my head that’s why i ask. So does space really so vast and we see so little with so much out there, like it contradicts it’s self every time I discuss about it.

It’s kinda the same with Light and Darkness the Void (Dead space) and absolute Materia. It boggles my mind how ginormous everything is yet everything is so small from a view. We never truly know how vast these forms of energy truly are until we face them ourselves.

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All is energy….

Energy = dynamic. Patterned and non-patterned interactions.

Space = a field of possibilities - for interactivity.

Where none can be perceived, because they are too subtle, or too complex or unpredictable (chaotic) the mind interprets this as void, darkness.

Time = change.

Interactivity is change. Flux.

Can Flux intercede with Time? And Interactivity Change?

Pattern = probability - limit of what is possible. Order is a limit to spatial possibilities.

Change relative to a standard is experienced as time.

Change is caused by interactivity.

Interactivity = repulsion, attraction.

Patterned energies interact predictably, consistently…..chaotic energies interact unpredictable, inconsistently.

Is the universe just one big magnet ?

Flux refers to all this interactivity…..and to end it, in theory, is to become non-existent.

oh ok I gotchua I surprisingly understood that took a couple tries but I got it :joy:

You can conceptualize it along those lines, with two opposing poles…chaos and order…both of which are incomplete, unstable.

yeh but my question is do they ever intercede? Cause it seems like cause and effect but with more destruction unto creation forms. A Violent Perturbance that never ceases and yet collide. Also That could be how entropy births new formation matter just in another part of space. I don’t know a whole lot about it but I know Anti-matter has something to do with it or dead space cause Bob Lazar had said something interesting to this point. In their words it’s more of a chemical or nuclear reaction and turbulent enough collapses and overlaps mirrors and than folds in on itself restarting and then beginning anew after some time we don’t comprehend. Like a giant Alien power Plant Turning off and on like a super computer. Crazy theory but i’d thought I’d bring it up now that we’re on the subject.