I must warn people, firstly, that I have been banned from other boards for posting this and my posts have all been deleted. That may well happen here. If you do not want to read a taboo topic, I suggest you move on, because this is perhaps the most taboo topic on earth. I’m trying to have this discussion, and the dynamics involved in the topic are preventing me from having it.
The theory is that what receives the most sexual choice in a species will have the most effect in a power structure sense in that species.
The main reason I came up with this theory is because of personal observations and conversations from others that report that particularly during the male sexual peak, male bullies tend to have the most sexual choice, while female non-bullies tend to get the most sexual choice.
I put 2 and 2 together, from remembering a statistic that most violence in the world is committed by males aged 18-24. What I realized about this, is that this is exactly the male sexual peak. One would expect to see the behaviors that have worked best over time for drawing partners to be most pronounced during the sexual peaks!!!
So… from this observation about male bullies receiving more sexual choice during the male sexual peak and females bullies receiving less sexual choice during their sexual peak, I think I figured out why there is a difference in the aggression profiles of the genders!!! Sexual choice. I think on the male side is it actually a run-away sexual selection process that is not specifically tied to survival, but rather a conspicuous consumption form of aggression.
One example of this run-away sexual selection problem is the phenomenon of violent male prisoners receiving love letters from women, and violent female perpetrators not receiving them from men, for example, Ted Bundy proposed to a woman in court and she accepted the proposal while he was being tried for rapes and murders committed, Richard Ramirez (the nightstalker) got a marriage out of his killing spree as well. However, in discussing this with psychologists who determine whether someone is ready to be released, you don’t have to be a famous male convict to receive this type of attention, however for violent women, men don’t shower this degree of affection, which shows the runaway sexual selection process in the reverse, which is that men tend to shun masculine women in favor of less bullying and harsh women. One example of this is that men can do quite well sexually having the type of aggressive persona of shouting at someone “How are you doing!!!”, and I mean shouting at them, while if women had such a demeanor, men shun them sexually.
What I’ve concluded from this observation in general is that whatever receives the most sexual choice in a species will exert the most influence on how that species interacts in terms of bullying or non-bullying behavior.
What’s even more… there is a huge spike in the suicide rate for males at age 15-24, which is the beginning stages of the male sexual peak up to its end. Now keep in mind, more males commit suicide each year than all the wars and homicides combined!!!
Someone might point out that it is the increased testosterone which is accounting for rasher decisions. To this argument, I would point out that if this were true, the male suicide attempt rate would we much higher than the female suicide attempt rate, and it doesn’t explain the male suicide spike at the ages of 65-70+, which has decreased testosterone.
The actual theory that explains this behavior is that men tend to rescue depression with sexual intimacy (which is why women attempt so much more in a way that leaves them alive), while women tend to rescue bullying with sexual intimacy (trying to turn the bully into a perfect man). The rescuing that men do actually works at reducing the existential depression in women, which what women rescue does not reduce the aggression of men, it re-enforces the bullying.
What I figured out from this is that not only are male bullies getting the most sexual choice, but males are more sexually stratified than females are, perhaps under the 80/20 rule, so that 20% of males are getting 80% of the sex and the other 80% are only getting 20% of the sex… and there will be many more males than females who’ve had zero partners. This is very much like other animal species that have distributions (towards the bullies on the male side of 80-20 or even 10-90).
What I realized from this, is that I call it sexual neglect, and that sexual neglect has a bigger impact on human suicidality that just about anything else a human can endure.
BUT!!! It goes even further!!
What I realized is that existential suicidal completion is the end of the continuum on the suffering scale. And I realized something that shocked me! If you took all the serial killers, rapists, mass murderers and their regimes and you bunched all these people together, mostly who are males and you calculated the existential suicide rate from these people, it would only be a fraction of a percent compared to the existential suicides caused by female sexual choice. WAY more men have committed suicide from female sexual choice than committed suicide because of people like Stalin, Hitler and all their regimes combined!
The startling conclusion is that no matter how heinous THOSE people are, the average woman is actually more evil than they are, if you consider it as a regime of women!
BUT!! I figured out even more!! Females have a huge denial system about this, and even if they don’t, and they agree with all of it, they will refuse to have sex with people whom they even agree deserves it. But what I figured out is because of huge female denial, that males completely lose their sexual choice if they agree with the basic structure of this argument, and further understand that it is the most effective and falsifiable realization for reducing unwanted aggression in any species. So males will use all their intellect to try to destroy the argument, in order to rescue the female denial system and be their hero.
What this means, is that even though it’s the best answer that can possibly be given for how to chip away at that nebulous concept called world peace, that no matter how much evidence you have for the argument, that nobody will believe it!! Because of the way sexual choice is distributed!!
I will explain in depth additional phenomenon related to this. Look up “Love Shyness” on Wikipedia. Love Shyness is considered a dysfunction that can only be observed as having a deleterious effect upon men.
What love shyness entails is an incredible panic at showing attraction towards the opposite gender. What I’ve concluded, and is a much different conclusion than the work done on love shyness, is that it is the best game theory choice, rather than being a dysfunction! The reason is, because men will observe, often before puberty even begins, that women will show discomfort or complain to them or their friends about very ordinary approaches, and the love shy man says to themselves “Well, I won’t use that technique”, and then they’ll see a woman’s uncomfortable affect and body language as a guy flirts with them in a very ordinary way, and will file away “Well, I won’t use that technique.”, a guy looks at a women in a way that suggests attraction and the women shows offense, the guy will say, “Well I won’t do that either.” With a very short period of observation, the love shy males realize that women as a broad category don’t consent to approaches, and respecting this and the fact that men hardly complain in any way about any type of approach from women, realize that it’s best if they don’t approach and wait to be approached for not approaching. After all, they are the only men who are not trying to turn a “no” into a “yes”.
What happens is that these are the men who are behaving correctly to reduce the subliminal effect of “no” means “yes”, which is what is causing rapists to repeatedly think that rape is really what the woman wants, and they are, from a game theory point of view, also reducing the possible formation of aggression which could eventually encounter them.
What happens in the real world, is that these men will repeatedly watch women complain about men and then have sex with them, either hearing a woman complain to them about some man, or overhear her talking to friends, all the while being a person who is not complained about. It is this phenomenon which is causing tremendous violence against women and men alike, womens’ sexual choice being the main instigator of this violence. Men like to call these people, “men lacking confidence, or wimps”… this is the propaganda spewed trying to defend the female denial system to maintain sexual choice, when what they’re really doing is making the best game theory choice, which is not a matter of confidence at all. Leave it to the supposed “alpha” males to speculate that people who don’t approach women because they’re trying to prevent rape, suicide and homicide and torture “wimps”, and leave it to the ones who defend those behaviors to call themselves the worthy, the “alpha”.
We have a couple of cultural phrases that are very telling about this dynamic, one is “nice guys finish last”, which only refers to human sexuality, the other is “Don’t hate the player, hate the game.” which only refers to non-playing men… what it’s actually saying in a more diplomatic way is “Don’t hate the player, hate the women.” You can look online for the secrets of getting laid as a man, and the secret to all these sites is, be a jerk, hundred of sites like this online, not one site like this for women who are looking to get sex. The culture is screaming as loud as it possibly could that this phenomenon is really occurring. It even goes so far as to define the word “Dickhead” which is behavior men do to get sex as a synonym of “asshole or jerk”. There is no such statement about being a vagina head or a pussy head, this is because less aggressive women get the most sexual choice, while more aggressive men get the most sexual choice.
One aspect which is having an effect on decreased suicide in women is that men are more polyamorous than women are, their infidelity and increased polyamory is actually giving more women access to highly desirable mates which is causing their decreased suicide rates. It is common for women to be more polyamorous when they are younger, giving the bullies most of the sexual choice and variety and then settling down with a monoamory which doesn’t allow for the reward system to balance itself out, which is mainly why men continue to be highly suicidal throughout life.
If you don’t already believe the phenomenal amount of evidence there is to support this idea, then I offer you an experiment to falsify it.
Divide the experiment into 4 different types of school.
School 1: Only the male bullies get sex from women (all the women are in on the study and none of the men are)
School 2: Only the male non-bullies get sex from women (all the women are in on the study and none of the males are)
School 3: Only the female bullies get sex from men (all of the men are in on the study and one of the women are)
School 4: Only the female non-bullies get sex from men (all of the men are in on the study and none of the women are)
What this study is to determine is whether sexual choice is causal for increased aggression and existential suicide. The grades you can only really control for are 7-12, after that the schools become too large to control for. The study would need to have about 40,000 participants and would cost billions of dollars to do. But it is falsifiable. My best guess from watching this phenomenon is that the results would be so horrific, that the study would be closed due to ethical considerations before grade 12 was completed.
Once you know that sexual choice is causal for existential depression and increased aggression, then you have proof of which behavior is more evil.
What I’ve come to understand about this phenomenon is that women have massive denial about this, even women who agree with every bit of it, even women who agree that this man or that man deserve sex for being who they are, they deserve the most sexual choice, will still refuse to have sex with them, simply stating, “Well, that’s just the way it is.”. Some remarks to combat the argument are, “Well if humans are like other species, then those species can’t go to hell for just being themselves, therefor I can’t get any bad karma for only having sex with bullies.” I’ve noticed the types of apologetics for this realization are astounding. What I’ve concluded is that it is a sociopathy, not a complete lack of empathy as sociopathy is usually defined, but a targeted lack of empathy where it matters more than any other type, so by this estimation, the worst form to have.
As bad as a male is for denying this argument to maintain their sexual choice, women are even worse for giving most the bullies the most sexual choice, because it is the root behavior for existential suicide, torture, brutality, rape and homicide. Males can be horrible people, but because sexual choice has more of an impact on bullying behavior, men actually balance out at better people because they tend to shun more aggressive women, they pick better partners than women do. While I think those things are awful, the one I single out as the most horrendous is the behavior that causes the most existential depression, because it is the end of the continuum of the suffering scale. Less people have killed themselves in concentration camps and gulags and prisons than have killed themselves because male bullies get most the sex. Obviously one is a much more severe crime than the other.
Please feel free to ask any questions or make any comments!!!
Some other stuff and re-phrases from earlier notes, not necessary to read but may clarify certain comments.
I would simply suggest that over time the behaviors which correspond to high testosterone, assuming this is the case, have received the most sexual choice over-time, which is why we see this increase.
I say this similarly to once when someone suggested that the male suicide rates are higher because males are less likely to share their feelings and seek help than women, and I simply pointed out that if this is true, then what do you think caused this acculturation, it would be that such behaviors have received the most sexual choice over time. Besides, males tend to rescue depression, which actually works, and women tend to rescue bullying by trying to make the perfect man out of the bully, which has a negative effect because it re-enforces the behavior. So from the male point of view it doesn’t actually work to seek help for depression in terms of drawing in sexual intimacy, while with women it does… which is also the reason why women attempt suicide way more, but men complete way more.
If I remember correctly, the two suicide spikes happen during adolescence and at ages 65-70+ for males. Now you can’t simply argue using your own argument structure, that testosterone is responsible for the spike at the later ages. One more brief comment to the testosterone argument. The testosterone argument doesn’t explain why women attempt suicide 3 times more than men do, if the testosterone argument were true, men would be committing not only more completed suicides, but more attempts than women. My theory that men rescue depression with sexual intimacy and women don’t has explanitory power, while the testosterone argument has none when looking at it through the suicide attempt lens.
I would argue that males who have superior verbal abilities receive less sexual choice than the more physical expressions that seem to accumulate the most sexual choice amongst men. (in response to the point that high testosterone decreases verbal skills, which I’m not sure is true, because I have high testosterone, but whatever)
There are other clues to this phenomenon:
1.) We have a cultural phrase “Nice guys finish last” which specifically is about sexual choice and not something like money etc… I would even point out that Dawkins, in his video “Nice guys finish first” was making this video more to maintain high sexual choice rather than confront the common wisdom held in the multi-cultural phrase.
2.) If you are a man looking to find out how to get sex from women by searching the internet, you will find hundreds of sites that teach you the “secrets” and what all these sites have in common, is that the secret is to be a bigger jerk. You will not find a single site like this for women.
3.) If you simply walk down the street and ask 100 men, 1000 men, a million men, “Do you think jerks get more sexual choice at the male sexual peak than non-bullies?” Almost every single one will reply “yes, of course.”
What’s interesting about this to me is that it is a universal understanding amongst men and even many women, and it is ok to make this claim, although it will somewhat reduce sexual choice with women, but the argument you cannot make, because it will completely erase sexual choice with women, is that sexual choice is responsible causally for violence and existential depression. Males cannot make this argument without completely losing their sexual choice, because it is the line that women draw with their denial system and agreement structure to have sex with someone.
I don’t want to explore what men call the “prostitution argument” about women. I’m much more interested right now in covering the increased bullying and increased existential depression.
The guy who hits their hand on their chest and contorts their face and when someone with Downs Syndrome walks by has a much better chance of getting the Prom queen than someone who never does this, not that prom king or queen are important.
I divide my argument into two groups, the bullies getting more sexual choice, and less culturally relevant males getting more sexual choice. Your average musician or sports player is going to have more sexual choice than someone who makes a strain of wheat that helps feed a billion people or your average sociologist, and this in and of itself is problematic.
I don’t think the theory is upside down as you state, that men receive more sexual choice because they are powerful, I think bullying gets more sexual choice which provides more beneficial chemical exchanges such as oxytocin which leads to more success.
I think if women suddenly had a rule that men who used only a gallon of water a week to bathe themselves in received the sexual choice and those who used more didn’t, that almost every male on earth would use only a gallon of water a week to bathe themselves. It is sexual choice which is having an effect on the decreased aggression profile of women as well, which is that men are turned off by bullying or “masculine” women. One place this is evident is in the prison system, where you have famous and not famous violent offenders who are male getting all these love letters and marriages, but violent females don’t get those at all. What this speaks to, is that even though there are billions of women who wouldn’t have anything to do with the most extreme cases, there is a runaway sexual selection problem occurring on the male side because of female sexuality.
The easiest way to test this is to divide the study into 4 schools:
One school only the female bullies get sex
One school only the female non-bullies get sex
One school only the male bullies get sex
One school only the male non-bullies get sex
Then check the levels of aggression in the respective genders and also the existential suicide rates. It’s falsifiable. I actually think with all the info already there, the common sense, as you will, that this has already been falsified, but I would point out that there are certainly methods which could put an exclamation point on that common wisdom.
I would also point out that women by choosing more sexist men, are actually sexually selecting their own oppression and glass ceiling.
I just thought of something to add to this which is having an impact on the suicidality and aggression.
Women complain about all types of approach much more than men do. Sometimes the same approach that was complained about in one person will work for another person. It is very common for men to see however that bullying behavior and approaches receive much more complaint from women than men, men hardly ever complain about approaches of any kind. What men do in seeing this, is they get excited, because they realize that if they don’t approach women, they will be less complained about and if they aren’t bullies they will be less complained about, not only will they be less complained about, presumably they will receive the most compliments and get the most sexual choice… it is these men who become very excited about getting the most sexual choice, nobody calls them a jerk after all. The reality of what occurs is crushing, which is that those men that women do complain about end up becoming flings and even boyfriends and the people who take the path that makes the most sense, not being a bully and not approaching women are the ones who are lucky to get even a single female partner. One group will have something like 20-30 female partners and the other group is lucky to even have 1 by college age.
I would also like to point out that one of the problems that makes sexual neglect a larger problem on the male side than the female side is that men are more polyamorous than women are, which means that there are more high quality partners to choose from for women than there are for men. Women have more to look forward to in this regard. It seems ironic, but the increased infidelity and polyamory of men is decreasing the suicide rate of women.
What I’ve realized is that sexual choice is such a valued commodity that the brain of males will take the subconscious data that they will completely lose their sexual choice with women if they agree with it, and it will automatically, as if they are a robot, start spewing apologetics that make no rational sense. I think this process happens because they want to maintain their sexual choice and also don’t want to confront the reality that their sweet woman is actually, in fact, more evil than people they think are extremely evil, part of the trick that occurs here is that women tend to be less bullying and more nurturing on every other metric other than who they do and don’t have sex with, it’s a pervasive illusion that can fool even the brightest of minds. The bullying and acting out of males is, however, not coming from a vacuum, and we would do well to be mindful of it’s source.