“As an adult i no longer even care what the meaning of life is, i just want all life and the universe to go away permanently”
Boo! That’s passive nihilism. You must transform into the active nihilist and release your destructive energies onto the world, or you will become the pale mexican with a bad conscience whose anger has turned inward condemning itself and everything in the goddamn universe.
Destruction is also a creative impulse!
You can’t condemn a single moment in history without condemning history entirely, but to do that would condemn yourself because you’re part of that history. Ergo, you must take possession of the world as your own lest you deny yourself!
Meaning itself is a kind of cognitive intelligence. People that can’t find meaning are mentally disabled and their mind lacks cognitive intelligence in that department. Color blind. Can’t see meaning even if there is a lot of it. Handicapped philosophers crank out impossibilities all the time and it is kind of sad to watch. Instead of basing value on one compared to two, meaning can exist alone as well. On its own, without any demands, a mouse for example, has vast value. But when compared to a human, the human has more life value. But a superior human is nihilism to a mouse. Once you see something great, other comparisons shrivel. So there is also that. Grand morals nihilate common morals, at least a little bit. The result is people like iambiguous. He notices a lack of agreement amoung people. That’s not a good thing. But if you are willing to compare the masses to the values, the masses nihilate.
This is the danger of seeking extremes. The danger of God philosophy nihilating mortals. Living carefully is the best way to live. And we can’t wrecklessly throw around faiths. A lot of things don’t need to be said. And too much talking about unimportant things is toxic to the soul.
Of course there is something more than existing ….a binary processing biological machine exists because it needs to exist to compute that it doesn’t exist,….It doesn’t possess life though…..it merely exists.A lifeless binary processing biological machine is a representation of reality (a non illusion) NOT a misrepresentation of reality (an illusion)
So, and you consider us binary processing biological machines? And it needs to exist to compute that it doesn’t exist. The binary processing bms do not exist? or is this a faulty conclusion on the BPBM’s part? It doesn’t possess life. Is there life? What is it lacking that if it had this, it would then be life?
It is a representation of reality. What reality is it representing?
The metaphysical SELF exists and is not binary data.Binary data is used to produce sounds,visions and sensations which the metaphysical SELF interprets.
The metaphysical SELF resides within the biological machine body which produces these sounds,visions and sensations.The metaphysical SELF is separate from this physical body machine.
The SELF and the binary processing biological machine body are a part of reality.
Gold is not an end in itself like a person who can value because gold cannot value. Nothing can snatch away a person’s value, not even their own death, because it is eternally grounded in eternal personhood.
Mainstream scientists don’t understand representation of reality (non illusionary) science Ichthus because their fake starting philosophy can only ever produce a fake misrepresentation of reality (illusionary) science.These clowns haven’t even got past the fact that the cosmos and all matter within it is expanding and contracting in equal measure because it’s all vibrating.
OBSERVATIONS CONFIRM THIS EVEN!!! They are still insisting that the cosmos is expanding only……lol…..They are still insisting that we should all believe lies you see.
The metaphysical SELF exists and is unique to each individual.
The metaphysical SELF interprets sounds,visions and sensations which are produced from binary data created in the physical and you can only produce binary data in the physical from vibration…and vibration only happens in the cosmos if you balance attractive and repulsive electromagnetic force absolutes such that all spinning particles can interact and emit varying frequency electromagnetic analogue waves of energy containing binary data specific to a particular matter type.The physical body picks up (via its antenna senses) and converts (because it’s an analogue to digital converter) this binary data (contained within the waves) into the sounds,visions and sensations which the metaphysical SELF interprets.
So as you can see mainstream science needs to be kicked into touch because it’s all man made BS.
The idea that religion somehow explains the purpose of cosmos is highly questionable.
Let’s accept that God created cosmos. For what purpose?
Abrahamic religions claim something along the lines of: because this world is a test for us, or because God loves us etc.
These answers are highly anthropocentric and worse than the most imaginary fairy-tale. Are we seriously going to argue that the 0.000…0001% of cosmos (so insignificant is our size compared to the universe) is the purpose of God’s creation?
PS Perhaps someone else on this thread had made a similar comment. I apologize for that, it is too big of a thread to check all comments.
Our purpose, according, generally, to the Abrahamists, what we should aim at is to treat it as a test and to love and follow God’s rules and to be good people etc. But the purpose of the cosmos is broader than that and even considered mysterious or beyond our ken. In Islamic thought, you can look at the whole universe as a massive reflection—a way for God’s names and qualities to show themselves. It’s basically here to bear witness to God’s glory, and it does that just by existing, whether we’re around to see it or not. There is a strong tradition (notably in the Psalms and the Quran) that the stars, mountains, and animals “worship” God simply by existing according to their nature. In this sense, the universe’s purpose is to glorify God, which is separate from testing humanity. In Eastern Christian theology, the entire “cosmos” is believed to be moving toward a state of union with God (theosis). Humans play a role in this as “priests of creation,” but the ultimate end involves the redemption of the whole physical world, not just human souls. But even these ideas can’t be said to cover all possible purposes. In the Jewish tradition: The idea of Sod (mystery) suggests that there are layers of reality and divine intent that are completely hidden from human reason. In Islamic theology, particularly in Sufism, the concept of Batin (the “inner” or “hidden”) is the direct equivalent to Sod. It refers to the deep, esoteric meaning of the Quran and the universe that is hidden behind the Zahir (the “outer” or “apparent”) meaning. And then in Christianity the idea of Mysterium is fairly similar. We might be able to figure out parts, but the whole purpose, perhaps most is beyond what we can or at least do know. But the this is too anthropocentric argument doesn’t really work here, since the purpose of the cosmos is not at all necessarily limited, in the Abrahamic religions, to our purpose or what we should think of the purpose in relation to us.
No ghatzigue,the idea that attractive and repulsive electromagnetic force absolutes cancel out is the lie of the RELIGIOUS!!! cult (who worship the god of shiva) of mainstream science.It produces fairytale misrepresentation of reality (illusionary) science.
So, to summarize:
God is an egopath who created things only for having something to worship or “glorify” Him. And I guess He did that, because before cosmos He felt bored. And when theosis is achieved, cosmos will continue to worship Him. These explanations keep getting worse and worse…
Both egopathy and boredom are human characteristics. Religion keeps describing God in human terms (has feelings of love, jealousy, mercy, etc).
Deists at least refrain themselves from giving such inferior properties to the Supreme Being.
Non-religious have a straight and honest answer to the question of the purpose of cosmos:
They do not know and they do not pretend to know.
The non religious do not know because God keeps them in the dark because God accepts the non religious individuals choice to reject him.He leaves them to it to create their own fake philosophy and science.
Well, non-religious people tend not to attribute a purpose, so they’re hubris will likely be of a different kind in relation to knowledge, what they KNOW, and what they KNOW can rule out. There are religious people who will focus on the last part, the we don’t know part, even in the Abrahamic religions, and there are of course non-religious who also have a good handle on what they know and don’t know. And then there are religions that are not in the Abrahamic group. Many indigenous religions or worldviews might be a better word, do not have the autocrat/benevolent King model of the deity. And while I am sure you would see them as hubristic, they are often really quite kind values purported to something more complex than those attributed to a single bearded autocrat/nacissist.