Creation Makes Creator

Time had a beginning in the consciousness of human beings. It began as we humans noted the regularity of seasons, of days and nights and of the phases of the moon. We invented clock time for industrial and ceremonial purposes. Reality is atemporal. The universe we live in had a beginning, according to the big bang theory. It evolved into causing a planet that houses us.
So your problem would be with teleology–is the evolution we are aware of purposeful or not? Those of faith believe it is.

There is a necessity to co-create at least a virtually convincing model, so that it would appear that faith could be guaranteed in spite of the entropic phenomenologically reduced beliefs, that’s plunging headlong , as a result of the sociall implosion based on ‘facts’ which do not measure up to equivocate the plunge to a zero sum.

Nature had provided the cybernetically evolved formula, seeming to be grounded in math,.

That mathematically collapsed resonance( has an inorganic source, which negates the actual evolutionary origin of the species.

This necessary paradox, without which evolution post the primates man was supposed to be originated from, could never account for ‘the missing link’, the expanding hyperphenomenal bubble that if left unchecked , would condemn this world not only to a veritable catastrophic result, but devolve the possibility to break the eternal evolutionary possibility for the emergence of mankind.

Big Bang is neither beginning nor end…they cannot find the singularity because it does not and cannot exist - as it would contradict existence itself.

Time is not a ‘thing’ but how a consciousness experiences flux, or change - relative to its own metabolic rhythms.

No teleology other than in the minds of the desperate.


Chaos suffices to explain how life emerged…just at it suffices to explain how order, or perceived existence emerged.

No intent…no mind before space/time, existing ‘outside existence’.

Evolution suffices to explain the multiplicity of life forms.

No absolutes, no god, no one/nil outside brains…no ‘things’.
All is energy.
And you can see it all around you…constantly…even in deep-space there’s a measurable temperature…no absolute zero.
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Of course the fact that a linear continuum supporting the missing link would cause a few non linear people to easily debunk the whole theoretical neccesity to augment belief in faith, , even if such naturalistic wholistic can not be demonstrated to all but those in the ‘know’, may be sufficient reason to go for such supposition.

Except that one’s in the ‘know’ really have more than sufficient rresources to accept such on faith.

Of course the fact that a linear continuum supporting the missing link would cause a few non linear people to easily debunk the whole theoretical neccesity to augment belief in faith, , even if such naturalistic wholistic can not be demonstrated to all but those in the ‘know’, may be sufficient reason to go for such supposition.

Except that one’s in the ‘know’ really have more than sufficient rresources to accept such on faith.

Of course the fact that a linear continuum supporting the missing link would cause a few non linear people to easily debunk the whole theoretical necessity to augment belief in faith, , even if such naturalistic holism can not be demonstrated to all but those in the ‘know’, may be sufficient reason to go for such supposition.

Except that one’s in the ‘know’ really have more than sufficient rresources to accept such on faith.

Faith is belief in the unsubstantiated because it maintains hope in the improbable.

“Creation of the world is not only a process which moves from God to humanity. God demands newness from humanity; God awaits the works of human freedom.”–Nicolai Berdyeav, Russian theologian and philosopher.
Creativity is our image of God, which makes for freedom not determinism.

duplicate.

More declarative statements…no reasoning, no evidence, not even a rational argument.

Farts make more farts. Who had the first fart?

Is this the religion forum? Theologians are dissed as making declarative sentences while thread stopping buffoonery has its moment. Are you there, Dan?

What? You don’t think the Big Bang was an enormous fart? And that’s why the world is shit?

How little you understand about creation!!!

stick a needle in my eye

So Nietzsche had opinions. So what. This is century 21—time to think new and different thoughts.
We are as Ichthus notes, co-creators with God. We have the freedom to love or to destroy. It’s all about choices now. As Auden wrote–we must love one another or die. Our world is a plenitude, a whole of many parts, all interconnected. I suppose it is fun to play the competition game in action or words, but that will not bring us together in peace and in love.

If you have no higher power, then you are your God.

Hope through faith to believe in the relative ascendency for evolutionary progress,overcoming regesssive hopeless nihilization of such substance is overwhelming, which needs no further ‘proof’

Nihilism: any theory/dogma, ideology, worldview that contradicts - nullifies - experienced existence.
Any hope derived from this is escapist and ephemeral.

An objective must be first evaluated of its attainability.
Any objective offering hope by offering fantastically comforting delusions is exploiting the desperation of feeble minds & bodies.
Such contrivances may be invigorating, in the short term, but lead nowhere in the long-term, but only make the inevitable more certain.

Philosophy forums are not self-help meetings.
Plenty of those around.
Seem that in ILP philosophy is another self-comforting lie.

We’ll have to let children decide if this is true, after they choose their gender.
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I think the younger we get to them the easier they’ll see the ‘truth’ in our ‘adult lies.’
Fuckin, hypocrites.