Dead Ringer Awards

von_Rivers · August 21, 2020, 2:40pm

Give an award to the poster who reminds you of someone famous…

Urwrongx1000 - Mr. Smee (Captain Hook’s sidekick)

Magnus Anderson - Peregrin Took

iambidextrous - the whack-a-mole game

Silhouette and Mr. Kropotkin - Beebop and Rocksteady (tmnt)

Ecmandu - Morpheus (from The Matrix)

promethean - the Hamburgler, from the old mcdonalds commercials

Peter_Kropotkin · August 21, 2020, 3:31pm

K: I must say, I have absolutely no idea who “Beebop or Rocksteady”
is… I have a feeling I am not missing anything…and no don’t tell me, I don’t care…

Kropotkin

iambiguous · August 21, 2020, 5:29pm

Was there a fourth Stooge?

By the way, Mo, you’re up on our exchange here:

iambiguous:

von Rivers:

iamphibious,

Sadly, we can’t. As a nihilist, you hold the view that there are no right or wrong answers to these questions. --At least not that we could know of. So, without a criterion of moral truth to decide which claims are false and which claims are true, there’s really no point in us discussing it. Neither up there, nor down here.

No, I note only that given the manner in which I come to understand morality as embedded in the arguments I make in my signature threads, right and wrong answers reflect the embodiment of “I” as dasein out in a particular world, understood in a particular way. At the existential juncture of identity, value judgments and political economy.

Others however insist that there are in fact criteria/fonts for moral and political truths – in God, in pantheism, in ideology, in reason, in deontological intellectual/philosophical contraptions. Et cetera.

All I can then suggest is that they take these “objectivist” moral narratives and political agendas and explore them with me given a set of circumstances – from “the news” say – that most here are likely to be familiar with.

Sure, we may well go around and around and in the same circles as before, but, well, what else is there? At least until one of these objectivists is in fact able to link me to demonstrable evidence that confirms his or her own convictions.

von Rivers:

The only thing I’d ask a nihilist, (or a solipsist), is… how’s that view working out for ya?

Not too good. I am still convinced that human interactions unfold in an essentially meaningless No God world that will end one day in the obliteration of "I’’ for all the rest of eternity. Unless, of course, you count “star stuff”.

But I have never approached “the pursuit of wisdom” in philosophy as revolving around thoughts and feelings that are aimed basically at comforting and consoling me. Coming up with an understanding of “I” out in the world around me that is the least discomfiting. Instead, I have to go where the arguments in my signature threads actually take me.

von Rivers:

Things going well?

Actually, in the interim, yes. I’m not afflicted with any life-threatening health issues. I’ve got tons of things that I enjoy doing. Music, film, books, art, following the news, PBS, the Science Channel. Things that still bring me enormous amounts of fulfilment and satisfaction.

And since I reject objectivism, I’m not tied down to one or another moral and political dogma that ever and always requires me to do only the right thing. A lot more options in other words.

And yourself?

Anyway, if you do bump into others who would like to reconfigure ILP back to the days when the discussions were considerably more, well, challenging, tap them on the shoulder and invite them over.

You can even warn them about me.

Let’s take it out of Rant so that more members can grasp how that whack-a-mole reference is applicable to me.

If nothing else we can pursue it as a couple of avid polemicists. Something a bit more challenging perhaps than the stuff I get from the Stooges.

iambiguous · August 21, 2020, 6:01pm

That’s not the point. The point is to show us how “clever” he is. In other words, the “right people” here know what he means. And know why it’s clever.

Unless, of course, that’s not the point at all.

Mo, tell us what prompted this “clever” thread.

And what, in your view, is the closest that actual philosophers can come to assessing its worth?

von_Rivers · August 21, 2020, 6:09pm

Humorous awards ceremony, iambulance.

Thick skin. Thick skin. We all must have.

iambiguous · August 21, 2020, 6:22pm

Note to others:

You tell me what to make of it. As humorously as you can.

He said, whacking yet another Mo?

promethean75 · August 22, 2020, 1:53am

Stop bitchin biggs. At least you didn’t get the hamburgler.

von_Rivers · August 24, 2020, 9:26pm

Fixed Cross - Beadle Bamford (from Sweeny Todd)

Meno2 · August 25, 2020, 1:21am

Too bad looks can kill!

Am I really dead?

taken out of reference, really ?

I’m dead. But so, who am i, really? The undead, the One that can’t die.