Decadence

I really have to set you straight here Kris - it was my relationship with a black woman, from Ghana, that really fucked up my life for a good number of years. Before that I was about as little race-conscious as people come. After that I gradually began to see that there are actually some differences which I can’t completely ignore.

In any case I have no doubt that I know a lot more about the different races and their cultures, have a deeper knowledge of them than you do, with your abstract moralisms and your superficial troll-like interpretation of my concerns.

Ok

You’re lucky.
It was a relationship with a white (like me) woman from the UK (like me), that completely fucked my life for a good number of years. Before that I was not at all sexist, but it led me to believe that men and women were completely incompatible and that there would never be any hope to live my life with a member of the opposite sex.

But despite this I have in fact found a woman that loves me as much as I love her. Viva La Difference!
I have learned there are far more important things than what are mainly superficial differences between people of all "races’, cultures, and genders, and that will patience and understanding most of us are happy to embrace those differences whilst encouraging what brings us together.

Are you really saying that a relatively deep knowledge of one person out of an entire race (as well as belonging to many other “categories”) sufficiently gives knowledge of that entire race? With no comment on all the other categories to which she would have belonged? On a philosophy forum?

I hazard a guess that at least female out of the entire population of Ghana, and even black people as a whole, isn’t destined to fuck up the life of every partner they will ever have, even if they are white. I might even go as far as saying that lots of them aren’t… Perhaps I’ll just settle for “it’s not their race that is the determining factor”.

Having said all that, every break up seems to be automatically entered into the category of “life-fucking-up events”. I’m sure interracial break ups are always the worst though :wink:

Don’t you agree that it’s meaningless to say that “the average person from one race is different to the average person from another race, therefore none of them will ever get along”? Those weren’t your exact words, of course, but y’know…

Fair enough. But no, this was different. I won’t go into details. So I have no point, just an experience. Knowledge of something particular pertaining to the ‘spiritual’ element of the black race - it’s shadow-side. All races have one. Perhaps this is what makes them a race- their own particular environmental fears, programmed during many millennia.

The modern version of what I mean by spiritual side is psychology. A means to address the subconscious.

I am talking about millions of years of culture.

I’ve said this before, elsewhere, but I’d like to say it again. You can get a super race out of any race. The super people are more rare in some races, but they are still there. Good genes will die out I think, but their shadows are around for now. Appearantly the christian god is even racist, or was, till he/it changed its mind. There are allot of differences. No need to ignore any of them.

I think you’ve just re-phrased what you agreed was having no point.
That’s just another way of saying your experience of (the psychology of) one gives you experience of all.
It doesn’t.

On scales like these, any difference in culture between two contemporary groups with different shades of skin is negligible. You’re talking inter-species here, nevermind race. The difference in psychology between races is nothing compared to species.

On smaller scales, I’ll accept a difference between cultures, but things like that are so easily adopted by all/any race.

That all depends on what counts as “selective”.
In evolution a “super” man is the one that spreads his seed about more than any other. That could be as super as a serial rapist in a world that disallows abortion. Or maybe one rich enough to run a harem.

A “super” woman is one so mean and aggressive that she has enough slaves to look after the children she has every year.

You and me both should know that evolution isn’t always right or wrong.
When it’s wrong, who has the eye for it? Handicaps are some of the most obvious ‘wrongs’ in evolution. When parents eat their babies it’s another wrong. Now, you might disagree. Who knows, maybe we should be handicapped and eat our babies, but something about it doesn’t sit right with me, so I decide in myself that there is right and wrong. Now because I want to share it with the world, I project morality as well. Do you ever project morality?

Evolution is never right or wrong.

It just is the result of change, and the differential remnants of a changing environment.
Even handicapped in one environment can be an advantage in another.
Pygmies might be handicapped in most contexts, but pu them in a forest with low hangin branches and they do much better than tall people. Where do we tend to find pygmies - the the Congo jungle!

Even eating babies might work - as long as they are other peoples’ babies. But even eating your own babies works for rabbits, who do it often in times of stress and scarcity of food.

Ok. Thanks for telling me. By the way, do you have any spare babies I could have? Just one or two if you only have a little bit.

As a teacher we had a saying. “I love children; but could not finish a whole one.”

Wait a minute, you were or are a teacher, too?

If you take Nikola Tesla, for example, is he closer to the race of Plato-moral, or of Plato-industrial, or of Plato-nomad (square-Heads)?

I’ve already asked for civility in this thread. Warning issued (third warning, four-day ban).

Yeah. I’ve taught just about every level you can think of.

None of this makes any sense to me. And I doubt it makes much sense to others.

Which is why sometimes you just say Ok in a specific way that pats a person comfortingly on their head. :slight_smile:

Except I think you need a special smilie for that.

That would be helpful :slight_smile: