Did Syrians Accidently Use Saddam's Chemical Weapons?

I’ve been thinking about this since last night…

The Chemical Weapons Attacks in Syria made no sense whatsoever tactically or strategically, unless the goal was to embarrass Obama, which he is more than capable of doing on his own, seen internationally as weak and backwards militarily and foreign policy wise.

  1. Syrians know where their native stockpiles are, and wouldn’t mix their chemical stockpile of chemical artillery shells with run of the mill artillery knowingly, because that’s incredibly stupid, like teletubby stupid.

  2. The very limited, strategically worthless deployment of them suggests to me they didn’t quite know what they were doing. I may be wrong, perhaps the are reading some post WW1 French War Strategy Manuals on how to intimidate the enemy… It’s about as tarded, as no realistic benifit could of come to Assad.

  3. WMD rounds from another source nation were unceremonially dumped in normal Syrian reserves, hidden in the way fucking back with the not to unrealistic expectation they would sit there forever until thrown out as too old, or sent back to the host country once it could retake responsibility for them.

Such a country would have to be friendly ideologically with the Baathist Regiem in Syria to get that stuff through checkpoints and into supply bunkers, but not so open so as to inform the higher ups of what’s actually going on.

Secondly, the weapons would have to be used for a fearful shared enemy, like the US, or a hated minority they both shared and didn’t care to see breath, like the Kurds.

My assumption is it could of been old Iraqi WMD hidden in some old bunker Assad’s forces hastily stumbled upon and used, largely because higher up either didn’t know about it, or the people responsible for knowing that stuff have sense died in the war.

It’s a conspiracy theory, but its hard for me to figure out why Assad would pull such a retarded act intentionally with no perceivable benifit as well as wondering what happened to all the WMD that was produced out by where I was stationed in Iraq. It’s hard as fuck to balance in my head with 100 percent certainty Saddam made WMDs, and 80 percent he had them near right up to the invasion, given all the shit that was found, and scientist still living nearby state funded, hiding shit in their yard.

They were both Baathist states, it makes sense when they were told to hide that crap, some made it into Syria, and that at this point the Syrians themselves can figure out what is what.

There is a simple test for this theory. As the rebels advance in Syria, they will take more and more positions. In order to maintain the flow of weapons and avoid negative stigma as being worst than Assad, they will avoid those stockpiles officially marked by the Regiem as Bona Fide WMDs. If as they advance, we start getting unexpected reports of them or both sides using intermixant WMDs on one another with no rhythm or reason, and then both stopping, swearing it wasn’t them, then doing it again… it will likely indicate a unofficial WMD stock both sides are dipping into, thinking they were normal rounds. Could it still be just Assad’s stash even them, just missing and unaccounted for? Yes… but I don’t see why he would ever want to move his stuff out of locked, marked bunkers with warnings in the first place. It rather suggests magically appearing unexpected WMDs got mixed up in their more orthodox supply, a mistake no quartermaster or artillery officer in their right mind would do during peacetime unless they were bribed to hide stuff somewhere no one would ever think to use, in the very bottom or rear of stockpiles where they would never be conceivably used in the training range.

I could be wrong though.

They probably used them on purpose and accidentally didn’t realize it was pointless.

That sounds stupid but could be the case, if you loose enough clear headed officers and officials, the Cezar’s slim to the top pushing their ignorant stupid agendas that backfire.

Perhaps your right Smears.

It happens occasionally. When I have to guess, I always err on the side of assuming the bastards were just completely ignorant.

I try to give credit where its due, even to Sauwelios a few times I said he was correct.

Just… like, its a international paranoia, every country who ever built WMD locks up and specially marks that stuff… it’s next to impossible to outright make the mistake unless someone intentional wanted it done, or cleverly not so cleverly his that stuff.

You might get a case dealing with a Armsroom in Alabama… Remember this thread, if ammo got mixed up or weapons went missing, or someone shot a client of yours with government registered weapons, the military or police can and will get sued, heads will roll, people thrown in jail, etc… even if that stuff got stolen. There are a lot of safeguards put in place on simple rifles and handguns… requiring electic alarm systems, clerks, and aggressive grewsome inspections. Imagine now a WMD cache.

So yeah… you could be right, but if you are, someone somewhere is one hell of a war crimes perpetrator if you are right, because there are always even in the most backwards third world country obvious warnings, labeling, and control mechanisms. It’s not Arjuna pulling a red radioflyer wagon full of weapons of mass destruction out on a existentialist nature walk on his way to meet up with his brother kind of situation, its the most paranoid labeling and security system any nation has and was violated situation.

If you could sue on this sort of thing, it be a slam dunk case.

Dude of course there are people who are in the business of perpetuating war. Of course they exist. Normal people in the streets don’t call for war man.

Fuck, you live on a unique set of streets. I’ve never heard of a truely peaceful society, nor a exclusively top down approach to war.

If you can enlighten me on this, doesn’t have to today if you meant it bust just said it off hand without little thought. Take time and put it in context.

In America most people can’t even pronounce, let alone point to on a map the people we bomb. We think it’s for oil or god or democracy. But the only benefit that actually comes is that a few people who bought into the right companies get huge windfalls of cash. You probably worked with a bunch of private contractors over there who were extorting billions from taxpayers just by existing there and being paid. Ever job in the world, not just military is loaded with non essential people. You know the score man don’t ask me to give you a documentary.