… when you do beautiful things"?
I’m helping a Chinese student get some responses :
Thanks in advance for your time 
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yeah, I think that’s the meaning of the phrase for stupidity…
but beauty is a aesthetic judgment placed upon things, not necessarily actions… beauty is as beauty appears would be more accurate…
-Imp
(to the best of my understanding, because i’ve never heard it spoken) there is a phrase in korea that says ugly people are bad people,… which sounds quite harsh, but when you think about it, it can be true.
i think that a smile is the most beautiful thing that anybody can do, and when you think about it, how much do ‘bad’ people really smile?
a smile to a stranger on the street is the best feeling when it’s returned…
I have to concur, that most unattractive people are negative and harsh: the better looking a person is the more positive their demeanour seems to be - I have had really bad experiences with unattractive people, and avoid them like the plague: as they are not good for my well-being 
I know what you mean: a smile from a stranger is better than any tonic - also, if I see that a stranger looks a bit down: I’ll give them a smile, and even if it’s not returned: they seem to look that bit more positive.
You shouldn’t judge a book by it’s cover. I mean a person’s appearance can be quite decieving. Its not until you start talking to a person that you can decide what they’re like.
Socrates himself was not known for his attractive appearance.
You have to define beauty and beautiful before having a meaningful discussion. (i.e. innner, outer, spiritual, etc.)
If Hitler does something beautiful is he beautiful? If Salma Hyak does something ugly is she ugly?
Some would say beauty is seen and not done.
Physical beauty tortures me. I can hate you because you’re beautiful. You may ask me not to hate you because your beautiful, and it may not be your fault you are beautiful, but if I want to possess beauty and life has taught me that I cannot not possess it, then I get frustrated and angry. I see beauty and want to rank it, searching for the most beautiful. As I do so, I start to compare. And this is not fair to those compared.
In the process of comparing, I learn that beauty is fleeting and that familiarity can breed contempt. Even Salma’s shit stinks and I don’t want to know that.
So, I learn to sit back and appreciate beauty from a distance. I don’t want to possess it, or fuck it, or get to know it. I just look and say: That/she/it is beautiful. Soak it in. Appreciate it’s beauty in it’s own right, without comparison or desire.
This, I think, brings me close to Plato’s ideal of beauty. Ideal beauty is in the appreciation of it, and all the subsidiaries and counterfiets are in the desire of it and comparison of it.
So, beauty is in the not doing anything. It is not as it does. It is as it is. It is as it is appreciated.
Appreciate beauty. If anything gets ugly it will just be you, it won’t be beauty.
Ugly is another story. It, too, can be treated, and appreciated, likewise.
Asthetics is subjectinve, meaning beauty is ine the eye of the beholder.
Beauty is not an action, but a trait.
…like I said: I’ve had very bad experiences, and don’t need to waste my precious time ‘finding out’ if some-one is gonna be nice to me or not - I’m busy living my life, and ain’t ready to slow down for anyone 
I used to chat to all kinds of peeps when I was younger, and had more patience/less to do - now I have less patience/more to do
I’m not being cruel, and will chat to peeps who approach me: regardless of looks, but if they piss me off: I will kick them to the curb, again: regardless of looks - this is my experience and viewpoint, and I am entitled to it…
Everyone is entitle to their opinion, but here is what I think is happening:
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People don’t mind being treated like shit by a beautiful person nearly as much as they mind being treated like shit by an ugly person.
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They are more likely to remember it when an ugly person treats them like shit.
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It’s not unlike racism: If you are a white man and a white man treats you like shit, he is an asshole. But if you are a white man and a black man treats you like shit, he is a nigger. Likewise, a woman is a bitch, a fat person is a cow, a short man has a Napolean complex, etc. An ugly person is a bad person. In otherwords, we look for a hook to hang our hat upon.
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Compare: many men will put up with an inordinate amount of shit from a beautiful woman. George Bush is attractive, so it’s easier for stupid people to put up with his shit. We shrug our shoulders and say "Hey, he’s just a regular guy, dumb maybe, but he does his best. If a guy smiles at you as he screws you, it’s more tolorable. But damn, if he was ugly he’d get NO slack. It’s like road rage: if the guy/woman fucks up and does not acknowlege it or flips you off, the gun play starts. But if the smile sheepishly and shrug their shoulders with palms up, it’s very disarming. If a beautiful woman does it, all is foregiven. Many beautiful people know how to play this card, and that is why they can be more successful. Supid people buy into it. Hell, I’m smart and I fall for it. The younger I was, the more I fell for it.
So, I really don’t think it’s a matter of ugly people are bad people and that beautiful people are good people. It’s just that you are more willing to eat shit when it’s covered with sugar.
Should be careful with the ‘traps’ of language. Beautiful ‘appearance’, beautiful ‘of moral and ethics’, beautiful ‘action’, etc. All of those are ‘beautifuls’, but all are different.
I don’t put up with anyone’s shit: be that person ugly or beautiful - perhaps those of low self-esteem adhere by that premise?
I, in turn: do not dish out shit to others: as my morals dictate this to me… I am not in that place of give and take / goverened by the mood and will of others: therefore, I do not have to be around others that hinder my happiness and well-being (this should be a given: not a right: for all).
we are not on this planet to put up with other’s disgruntlings, but are here to make the most of our lives - what others choose to do is up to them / what I choose to do is my personal choice and preference…
I think you think that, no doubt. But I think you are not as objective as you think you are. I think you put up with peoples shit all the time. You don’t have a choice. We have deprived you of that choice. As we shall shortly witness.
No, you are just a bigot toward ugly people and it has nothing to do with personal experience with ugly people. It has to do with personal experience with people who happen to be ugly, and who don’t get the slack that beautiful people get in your subconciously subjective world when they give you shit.
I happen to be really hansome, by the way.
Like silly taxes, bad drivers, and the common asshole. I agree. I also agree that it is your perception of asthetics that makes you think you are really hansome.
It’s what I’ve been told. Women used to pay to watch me take my cloths off.
…what you ‘think’, and the reality of my experiences: are two different things - you can only speculate, but will never know of my objectivity: as my family always tell me: I am firm but fair, and they hate me for it: as they can never sway my decision.
I work in an ad agency: where I traffik work between account handlers and designers - they all try and sway me, but my decisions are based on deadlines and time-frames, and not whether the best-looking guy there can sway me by his hot flirting 
- of course I flirt with the hottest guys at work, but that doesn’t affect what’s best for the business/office/etc…
Have you witnessed the deprivation of my choice? If so: how? do explain…
…you agree on the basis that you both ‘think’ so 
how intuitive and intelligent of you both 
Yes. Go back up and read how you say you don’t have time for ugly people, and how you don’t take shit from anyone. Then read where I said “shortly to be witnessed.” Then observe yourself back here proving my point right now. You are taking my shit and not exersizing that ignoring factor that you said you used. Is that because I told you I was hansome? If so, then you make my point again. If not, then I could be ugly and you are not ignoring me and you are taking my shit anyway. Either way, your logic fails you.
The fact that you can’t see me may help, but contextualize it with your own statements on the racism thread. Paraphrased for here:
Remember my comparison between racism and ugly? You are not the even keel you pretend to be. At least not as manifest here.
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Do you really think I replied to your post because you ‘said’ you were good-looking? 
we are having a discussion: nothing more, nothing less - the annoyance factor is not present (on either of our parts) for now: so this conversation continues…
Thanks for quoting my post from the racism thread back to me - I did say that I try to have a non-judgemental eye/attitude, but not at my own detriment: as that would be altruistic on my part, and I’m not here for that… I do not put anyone down, but just leave them to their own devises, and I get on with my life/do what I do
No, I don’t. I was merely pointing out the corner you had painted for yourself. You took my shit, contrary to your represtations (i.e. ignoring ugly people and refusing to take shit). Thus, you could have done so because I am beautiful, or because you don’t ignore ugly people like you say you do. Since you don’t know what I look like, I suspect it’s because you do indeed take shit. We all do, and you are not exception. You can re-classify the shit you take as a discussion, but you are just putting sugar on a turd when you do so.
However, you fail to distinguish the white man who has had bad experiences with black people and then becoming racists (illogical) and you who have had bad experiences with ugly people and then thinking they are bad (Korea). Yet your “stubbling block” metaphor is correct, and applies equally to each and renders both a bigot.