Double Headed Eagle Symbol

[LampAndNightingale (6 Points>6 Lines>6 Triangles, Between Nile & Euphrates)]

I’m wondering if anybody knows the meaning of this symbol.

I think it might be the Anqa Bird (Gryphon, Griffin, Phoenix, the Simurgh in Persian) as per an Islamic manuscript shown below:

… but there are way older depictions too. However, these too may also be the Anqa Bird. Even if it is the Anqa Bird l’m wondering why it is depicted with two heads, as far as l know the Gryphon is a lion with an eagle’s head?

Culled from Wikipedia with minor detail added by myself:

BRONZE & IRON AGE

Many-headed mythological beasts and bird creatures frequently appear in the Bronze Age and Iron Age pictorial legacy of the Ancient Near East, especially in Mesopotamia:

They were later adopted by the Hittites. Use of the double-headed eagle in Hittite imagery has been interpreted as “royal insignia”. A monumental Hittite relief of a double-headed eagle grasping two hares is found at the eastern pier of the Sphinx Gate at Alaca Hüyük:

In Mycenaean Greece, double-headed eagles appear on Mycenaean pottery.

Bactria–Margiana Archaeological Complex

One of the earliest known depictions of a double-headed eagle appears on a ceremonial shaft-hole axe head from the Bactria–Margiana Archaeological Complex (BMAC), dated to the late 3rd and early 2nd millennium BCE - see below:

MIDDLE AGES

After the Bronze Age collapse, there is a gap of more than two millennia before the re-appearance of the double-headed eagle motif.

The earliest occurrence in the context of the Byzantine Empire appears to be on a silk brocade dated to the 10th century, which was, however, likely manufactured in Islamic Spain; similarly early examples, from the 10th or 11th century, are from Bulgaria[ and from France.

The double-headed eagle device was used in the flag of the Armenian Kingdom of Vaspurakan (r. 908–1021) - see below:

It was also minted on an Abbasid coin c. 1213-1214 CE:

Adoption in the Byzantine Empire

The early Byzantine Empire continued to use the (single-headed) imperial eagle motif:

The double-headed eagle appears only in the medieval period, by about the 10th century in Byzantine art, but as an imperial emblem only much later, during the final century of the Palaiologos dynasty. In Western European sources, it appears as a Byzantine state emblem since at least the 15th century.

Adoption in the Turkic and Muslim world

The double-headed eagle motif was adopted in the Seljuk Sultanate of Rûm and the Turkish beyliks of medieval Anatolia in the early 13th century.

A royal association of the motif is suggested by its appearance on the keystone of an arch of the citadel built at Konya (Ikonion) under Kayqubad I (r. 1220–1237) - see below:

Adoption in Christian Europe

Adoption of the double-headed eagle in Serbia, Albania, Russia and in the Holy Roman Empire begins still in the medieval period, possibly as early as the 12th century, but widespread use begins after the fall of Constantinople, in the late 15th century. See below for examples, the filenames should be self-explanatory:

In India:

It is seen to be the emblem of the Indian Kingdom of Mysore, 1529-1542 CE:

In Modernity:

Today the symbol is everywhere.

It has become the symbol of the Scotch Rite of Freemasonry:

It has also been adopted as the official banner of Syria’s Turkmen:

POST-SCRIPT: THREE-HEADED EAGLE

A three-headed eagle is mentioned in the apocryphal Latin Ezra, featuring in a dream by the high priest Ezra. In a Chechen fairy tale, a three-headed eagle figures as a monstrous adversary to be killed by the hero.

Öksökö (Өксөку) is the name of an eagle with either two or three heads in Yakut and Dolgan folklore (these are tribes of the far north, in central Siberia).

[reason4emotion]

My knowledge of the double headed eagle is a significant symbol heavily associated with Freemasonry, the Jesuit order and occult power. It is a primary symbol of high level Freemasonry (specifically the Scottish Rite). The symbol represents allegiance to a system that is satanic.

The symbol’s links secret societies i.e. the Jesuits to work together to undermine Protestant principles and create a New World Order. The Russian adoption of the double headed eagle is evidence of its integration into this system, a sign of allegiance.

Symbols involving eagle’s wings and the shifting of power, often depicted in such imagery, represent the transition to human centered philosophy placing man or the state above divine law.

[LampAndNightingale (6 Points>6 Lines>6 Triangles, Between Nile & Euphrates)]

As l recall, the Scottish Rite and York Rite are as important as each other, but York Rite has fewer degrees and contains the Royal Arch degrees, Templar stuff - whereas the Scottish Rite is more focussed on general philosophy.

The double headed eagle represents the Scottish Rite, but l think Freemasonry officially began in 1717 or at least that’s when the United Grand Lodge of England formed.

Freemasonry surely existed prior to then and masonic writers have come up with rather fanciful histories of their order (e.g. Nimrod, Solomon (peace be upon him), Tubal-Cain etc.).

The so-called occult (Satanic) origin of the symbol doesn’t explain how inoccuous and incongruous movements took on the symbol, e.g. the Bronze & Iron Age Central Asian cultures and Hittite culture of latter-day Turkiye. It’s true though, that the symbol had a demonic representation in the axe head photo.

I don’t get what’s so good about a double headed eagle. Like, why does it have to be an eagle, and why 2 heads?

I like to think this and other symbols were things directly visible in the sky at one point a few millennia ago, during a sort of “Dream Time” epoch. Same goes for the cross, the star in crescent and the lion holding a sword.

The star in crescent symbol deserves its own thread. It was used by practically everyone in the northern hemisphere. It certainly was not the crescent moon and sun - the star was always meant to be within the circle of the crescent, which is impossible for a star.

[LampAndNightingale (6 Points>6 Lines>6 Triangles, Between Nile & Euphrates)]

I’m still open to it being a manifestation of evil though.

[Mary-Poppins]

I don’t know. The Masons are very studious and have a tendency to incorporate whatever they like, so I don’t think that one presents much of a clue. That is to say, they could have a million reasons.

I can’t see what it could possibly be but a specific seal for a specific house. Very early Hieroglyphs, inside and outside of Egypt, were usually mutated animals representing a given House. Probably because this presented an identifiable signature, like Chinese modify Chinese characters to make a signature.

I always found it a little eery. But if your house somehow found itself inheriting this sign in some way or another, you would be sure to display it prominently.

I’m not saying instead of religion, probably all these early houses of nobility were also priesthoods.

[Mary-Poppins]

Would love to read a study of the crescent star symbol.

[LampAndNightingale (6 Points>6 Lines>6 Triangles, Between Nile & Euphrates)]

Hi, it’s all explained here:

Symbols of an Alien Sky (Full Documentary)

Jump to 41m 40s

Basically the theory is that Saturn used to be a purple dwarf star, and earth orbitted it at what David Talbott called the barycentric axis of rotation i.e. the way a person might spin a basketball on their finger, the fingertip was earth and the spinning basketball was Saturn.

So, Saturn neither rose nor set, it was permanently in the sky, it just rotated, and we were snugly enveloped in Saturn’s atmosphere and thus we had permanent violet light and ideal growth conditions in a “dream time” epoch.

However, Saturn then stumbled into our solar system and was captured by the sun, as was earth. So, for a while we saw the sun’s light forming a crescent against Saturn, and between earth and Saturn was Venus and Mars, and Venus began spewing out plasma / charged gas, so it shone like a star, within the crescent cast by Saturn.

Obelisks and solitary columns were constructed so that Saturn seemed to sit on them for ceremonial purposes, like the ball spinning on the finger.

It’s a nice thought, it would take a lot more to convince me but it explains a lot of symbols we see, if you see the video you’ll see things like the Esso symbol, the Shell Oil symbol, Crescent and Star, etc. I’d love to know if the double headed eagle could be explained like this.

The theory in the video is based on plasma cosmology, thunderbolts. Interestingly Islamic eschatology teaches of a coming time when lightning will be prevalent, every day you;ll know someone that was struck.

[Mary-Poppins]

So, at this stage, what are your thoughts on the two headed eagle?

[LampAndNightingale (6 Points>6 Lines>6 Triangles, Between Nile & Euphrates)]

Perhaps the two heads represent something approaching along an east-west axis.

When it hits earth, it is like a giant bird dying in a huge fire.

It causes a change in everyone’s psyche, not merely because it’s spectacular but it has a property that changes everyone,

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I think a better starting point for the video, in case you were interested, would be here:

Symbols of an Alien Sky (Full Documentary)

I don’t like making videos the core of my argument but l’m just saying why l think the crescent + star symbol is important, seeing as you asked

[Mary-Poppins]

Before I get into it, do you imagine some planetary or possibly stellar correlation?

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Yes, it is something that changes the world. People might not even remember the past when it strikes, it might just erase history. It is said that people won’t be thinking about the antichrist when he arrives. Right now, we’re all talking about him. Something like a giant wave hitting the earth and changing our lives would probably make us forget the past.

[Mary-Poppins]

Yeah well that’s the common explanation. The Russian empire looking both East and West. Unlike, say, the Norwegian Crow looking West.

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@Mary-Poppins

the Norwegian Crow looking West.

Hi there, is this a heraldic device? I’ve Googled but cannot find it.

I agree the east-west thing might be about conquering territory btw and not some futuristic cosmological phenomenon.

[reason4emotion]

@LampAndNightingale

The star in crescent symbol deserves its own thread. It was used by practically everyone in the northern hemisphere. It certainly was not the crescent moon and sun - the star was always meant to be within the circle of the crescent, which is impossible for a star.

The symbol of Islam is the sickle moon and the star, the star within the sickle moon and where does this symbol come from and who is Alllah.
Interesting quotes from encyclopedias of religion. Allah was the moon god who married the sun goddess together they produced three goddesses who were called the daughters of Allah. These three goddesses were called Al lat Al uzza and Manat. The encyclopedia of religion mentions that Allah is a pre Islamic name corresponding to the Babylonian bel so this is an ancient Pagan religion and bel or baal is the deity. The Arabic word aldebaran means the foremost or leading star and it could only have been named when it did “proceed or lead all others”.
If you go to Mesopotamia you will find the old symbol of baal and bel has exactly the same the half moon and the star in it representing the birth of the son Isis and Osiris, the male female aspect, so this would be Ashtoreth and Tammuz or Isis and Horus the male female the same you find in Egyptian, it is baal worship. Now the Papacy has exactly the same thing because the Pope today is the representative of the Babylonian religion so when he says the mass he has a round wafer disc, its roundness is as a symbol of Baal. After a mass it is placed in a monstrance which is a half moon so then you have the birth of the sun and you have it symbolized in the form.

Catholicism uses the symbol of the half moon with the sun or the star in it. The star and the moon are also hidden in many other symbols as well. Now this ancient religion existed before Islam and the initiates of this religion were the insiders like Oregon for example and the Bishop of Alexandria, these were the initiates who harbored the ancient religion and they were Christian, so called, but of course they were not Christian.
Then Islam arrived on the scene way after that so the true harborers were in Christianity before they were in Islam.
So in Catholicism we find the half moon or the sickle moon where the deities in them we find Mary replacing Jesus as the Mediatrix.

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@reason4emotion

The symbol of Islam is the sickle moon and the star

Schoolboy error. it was a later symbol taken from the Turks who conquered and ruled over Islamic lands. They used the crescent + star symbol like pretty near every other culture. It was even the symbol for Christian Constantinople and the British Royal Navy.

Before you continue to Google Search

Note also, the Moon deity was a goddess, not god.

Oh and don’t forget Islam is unyieldingly monotheistic and Muslims suffered horrible persecution for NOT worshipping the Lat and Uzza, and the pagans eventually tried to even cut a deal with the Prophet (peace be upon him) to have Allah back in the pantheon or something, alongside the other deities, but the Prophet refused, whereas if he were a fraud he wold have gladly accepted raprochement, the new income, the new glory. Instead he chose to continue living in the midst of a sea of pagan enemies whilst preaching monotheism - l don’t you could ever do that. Please, don’t lie.

Oh and the Qur’an itself:

About Abraham considering the various deities of his civilisation:
006.076 *When the night grew dark upon him he beheld a star. He said: This is my *
Lord. But when it set, he said: I love not things that set.
006.077 *And when he saw the moon uprising, he exclaimed: This is my Lord. **But ***
***when it set, he said: Unless my Lord guide me, I surely shall become one of the folk ***
who are astray.

006.078 *And when he saw the sun uprising, he cried: This is my Lord! This is *
*greater! And when it set he exclaimed: O my people! **Lo! I am free from all that ye ***
associate (with Him).

006.079 *Lo! I have turned my face toward **Him Who created the heavens and the ***
earth, as one by nature upright, and I am not of the idolaters.

21.033 And He it is Who created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. They float, each in an orbit. <----- Allah created the moon, and also it is mentioned the moon swims in an orbit, l doubt anybody else even knew that back then

053.019 Have ye thought upon Al-Lat and Al-'Uzza
053.020 And Manat, the third, the other ?
053.021 Are yours the males and His the females ?
053.022 That indeed were an unfair division!
*053.023 **They are but names which ye have named, ye and your fathers, for which ***
***Allah hath revealed no warrant. They follow but a guess and that which (they) ***
themselves desire. And now the guidance from their Lord hath come unto them.
^^^ Qur’an calling Lat, Uzza, Manat etc. made-up garbage. Possible reference also to pagans sacrificing their baby daughters to these idols whilst keeping the baby boys.

There are countless other refutations in the Qur’an l could show but this is getting silly.

Oh okay, here’s some more info from the Arabs themselves, people that actually knew what their culture was like in pagan times:

Tafsir Surah An-Najm - 19 - Quran.com

^^^^ I doubt you will ever read it

I think you mean Origen btw.

Maybe check out the video l posted too, you’ll see the crescent + star symbol everywhere on earth (northern hemisphere) and you’ll see a possible explanation for it too.

P.S. Baal was an ancient king whose son missed him so much he had him deified as a statue and it caught on.

Anyway, please, sort your trinity business out. Then you can stone the Muslim monotheists that have the good grace not to deliberately lie about other people’s faiths !

[reason4emotion]

I apologise for any spelling errors of names.
Any insult was never intended.
My topic is based solely on research.
Ibn 'Arabī was a Sunni Muslim Arab scholar, I greatly admire.

[LampAndNightingale (6 Points>6 Lines>6 Triangles, Between Nile & Euphrates)]

Hi there, okay apology accepted but you do say this fairly often tbh, and l keep saying it’s untrue

[LampAndNightingale (6 Points>6 Lines>6 Triangles, Between Nile & Euphrates)]

I like Ibn Arabi so far, but l’m waiting for a full English translation of his Makkan Revelations. Some Swiss guy is translating it.

[reason4emotion]

Seems like a screen shot will be my only evidence.