From what I read today, the FAA is considering opening up air space over the US to drones–including privately owned drones.
Any comments?
There won’t be any privately owned drones. That’s for certain.
The drones that the police are using for surveillance of private citizens is there only concern.
Any others will be outlawed as “a potential hazard”.
if people with money want them they will be also private…
This really isn’t much differant than police using helicopters, from what i’ve hear the drones have to be under 4 pounds.
So no this doesn’t include predator drones if that’s what you’re thinking.
They are most definitely predatory drones. They are outfitted with infrared (night vision) surveillance cameras. That makes them predatory.
I think armament is what makes a UAV predatory.
The armaments are on the ground.
The eye is in the sky.
A predictor is anything hunting, seeking by any means.
it doesn’t matter if its private or not
if a private drone company makes drones, and does so in a manner that is either better and/or interferes with the current drone program, the company will be absorbed by the military industrial complex
i think in about 10 years or so the US public will actually begin to take privacy seriously (it’s started now, but people are still waking up)
it’d be great if we had ‘the right to not be recorded from security cameras everywhere’
incase anyone wants to be more paranoid:
Reads “Media Fails Us Once Again as US Police State Tightens With 24/7 Surveillance”
If a news report is 98 percent speculative bullshit anti-government propaganda and 2% is actual news that can be easily ascertained from other sources how valuable is the above article?
So you are claiming that those sited congressional bills do not exist; Rex 84, HR 658 and NDAA?
They are just paranoid illusions?
I wonder how many Jews were certain that Hitler wasn’t really a threat.
Remember how I said 2% was actual news?
Or are you too concerned with trying to tie me to an analogy that doesn’t really fit?
There’s a kid in my neighborhood that flies a drone. The buzzing is a bit annoying, especially as he only flies it in the summertime when my windows are open.
Not long ago in the USA, anyone could fly anything as long as it didn’t exceed 500ft altitude. There hasn’t been any need for any law allowing people to fly private drones. The law is specifically allowing the military to use drones to survey citizens from high and great distances. Specifically allocating 30,000 for the task, approximately 600 per state.
There are these giant bees that hover outside my windows sometimes, too. And hummingbirds…
I’ve been flying model motorized airplanes since I was a little kid on Beale Airforce Kid in the old airstrip… it was quite popular. When I was in the army, I attached a infared walmart wireless camera up to a portable DVD player and we fly that crap around… I’m not to surprised by this, and not too worried.
Reasons:
- They’ve been wanting to do this for years for restoring emergency signals over a disaster area such as 9/11, or massive earthquakes, fire, or flooding that knock out key towers, or in search and rescue so the guys on the ground… such as a party of volunteer civilians walking around in the wilderness looking for a little girl, can use their cellphones to navigate and coordinate their search.
However, I don’t think the FCC is competent enough to handle this. If you’ve ever seen cellular phone companies parked outside of cellphone towers in their trucks or cars, typing at odd hours prior to a event or after a storm, it’s cause the various Hertz frequencies are bleeding into one another, setting the whole bloody system off kilter. Yes, THEY pay for it, hardware and air rights, just as the San Francisco BART paid for the hardware to be installed in the subway, and pay a fee for carriers to broadcast in the tunnels, but they legally have absolutely no right in setting in either case what the said frequencies are… a engineer from the FCC has to weight the balance and come to a conclusion, weighing priorities signals for 911 and emergency government and military signals, then mass corporate, then civilian oriented services such as cellular (you losing you cellphone coverage isn’t as catastrophic as a large business losing access to the internet/phones- it can bankrupt them sending ripples rapidly across the economy via missed sells, poor timing, and lawsuits).
That’s why I said I don’t think the FCC is competent enough to do this. It might be legalized and all- technically, I doubt it’s illegal persay, as I know of a few media related advertising companies doing commercials this way… but once someone starts bleeding into it, the FCC is getting sent down, and they are going to see this buzzing thing way, way, way up in the sky totally mindfucking their calculations… and they are the only ones with the power of arrest when it comes to the airwaves… hence why BART stopped with the knocking out the radiosignals (I was the first to tell them to knock that shit off by the way, and NO, I wasn’t a protester… but they kept me from getting to the Mall’s foodcourt afterwork, and the media was pissed that their phones all died in mass… I had to explain to a police sargent this… the idiot claimed it was their right, had to explain to him it wasn’t their right in the least, only military and the governor could authorize that via military law, and that they themselves were the only ones present technically breaking the law and violating the peace and putting people in danger by cutting off emergency signal access… cause that shit was jammed even on street level where I was near the entrance, and those poorly trained hoodlums were in riot gear ready to start cracking heads. It especially annoying given I’ve since trained two of those nitwits on that force, and they were the dumbest guards I’ve ever had)
Ultimately, fuck it. Half the country has hills, and most neighborhoods have houses with elevation. You can also rapidally construct a Captive Column using a bicycle assembly line to rapidly build up in under a hour a very tall tower rivaling anything the cellular and radio companies can put up, and have a wireless camera on it, spying on people far away… they likely wouldn’t even notice it if it was foggy or at dawn or dusk, and even if they did, likely would ignore it… not the kind of thing people walk a half mile to investigate.
Another thing people need to factor in is drones can’t fly in bad weather, and need a painfully obvious airstrip to land in that’s exactly planed down without any blemishes in it, cause the drones suck at landing. No matter how good the technology is, it’s only as good as it’s hardware is at detecting categorically the things it was expected to, and these things tend to be quite generic, like heat signals or dew, or levels of light. It’s largely dependent upon analysts from that point on to figure that shit out… can they can be fooled too. How do you think those roadside bomb guys in Afganistan live despite military helicopters equipped with everything flying overhead? They’ve gradually learned what we do and don’t bomb, there was some experimentation with diffusion of the meaning of what was being targeted by the camera, and now Just War Theory and Ethics and basic economics are their camo… what is that? Should we bomb it? Is it a bomber or a late night Shepard looking for his sheep, or a fucking dog? Next morning… BOOM! Not that it’s that big of a concern anymore for Americans, we designed our armored vehicles now in use (just getting sent over when I left, never been in one in combat, but have sat in them) off the South African Buffalos used in the war with Nambia when they did similar things. Bomb goes off, maybe the tires will get changed out… maybe.
I’m not scared of the Drones. One flies over, I’m whipping it out and jerking off. Fuck em.