Einstein's philosophy

these quotes so far are from wikipedia wich i dont think would bullshit us on Einstein.(the CIA probly has more important things to bullshit us about)

“From a young age he had an interest in philosophy. Einstein said about himself: “As a young man I preferred books whose content concerned a whole world view and, in particular, philosophical ones. Schopenhauer, David Hume, Mach, to some extent Kant, Plato, Aristotle.”[78]”

so i basically know nothing about any of these philosophers he mentions here.feel free to enlighten me.

“Einstein was a secular humanist and a supporter of the Ethical Culture movement. He served on the advisory board of the First Humanist Society of New York.[8]”

as far as I am aware, secular humanists basically practice morality without god.

“Albert Einstein’s religious views have been widely studied and often misunderstood.[1] Albert Einstein stated “I believe in Spinoza’s God”.[2] He did not believe in a personal God …”

no idea about Spinoza or his god…

"He clarified, however, that, “I am not an atheist”,[4] preferring to call himself an agnostic,[5] or a “religious nonbeliever.”[3] "

i dont think i’ll go into his Opinions on philosophers, but i’ll put i link to it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_and_philosophical_views_of_Albert_Einstein#Opinions_on_philosophers

Some people on here doubt wikipedia alot so i belive “The World as I See it” is an authortative book on his beliefs.
quoting it:(PREFACE )“This book does not represent a complete collection of the articles, addresses,
and pronouncements of Albert Einstein; it is a selection made with a definite
object-- namely, to give a picture of a man. To-day this man is being drawn,
contrary to his own intention, into the whirlpool of political passions and
contemporary history. As a result, Einstein is experiencing the fate that so
many of the great men of history experienced: his character and opinions are
being exhibited to the world in an utterly distorted form.
To forestall this fate is the real object of this book.”

i intend to upload this book as a PDF if ILP will let me…no well. i do have the pdf.

Does it include the philosophy of the wife who divorced him for infidelity and is responsible for 80% of his work?

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by it if u mean the book, i’m not sure as i have not read all of it.

and i would hear proof she did 80% of his work.

hardcore proof right here:

In other news…

If this is true, I’ve been lied to. Yet again.

ooooo

If a huge nerd kidnaps me off to a deserted island, I hope they force me to learn stuff like this: https://mathweb.ucsd.edu/~b3tran/cgm/Minkowski_SpaceAndTime_1909.pdf

If this is right, Bing lied to me:

…but in doing so, contradicted itself by using sources that gave conflicting info. This quotes from the above. See two posts up for where Bing contradicts the source, which says Einstein DID adopt Minkowski’s 4D spacetime.

omg it was JUST updated that fast!

So… Bing is aligning with itself, against those who originally said (including Einstein & Minkowski) that Einstein adopted Minkowski’s interpretation.

It prejudiced logical consistency over historical correspondence.

It is rewriting history, here… no?

Look how the #s are out of order.

What is interesting is Einstein’s famous clash with ‘philosophy’ in his time, causing one of the most prominent philosophers in his time, the French philosopher Henri Bergson, to try to undo Einstein’s Nobel prize award, on the basis of pure philosophy regarding the nature of :clock3: time.

Einstein had claimed, on behalf of science, that “philosophy (its notion of time) was finally passé” and that science was finally freed from philosophy, as it were.

This was a major event and Einstein did this while Henri Bergson, famous for his ‘time as duration’ (with an infinite context), sat in the audience.

Bergson became infuriated by Einstein’s dismissal of philosophy’s conception of time, and he later sought to have Einstein’s Nobel Prize for his work on the scientific notion of time revoked.

The clash between Einstein’s scientific perspective and Bergson’s philosophical view on the nature of time provides deep insights into the evolving relationship between science and philosophy in the early 20th century.

Though Bergson was ultimately unsuccessful in getting Einstein’s Nobel Prize revoked, his strong reaction and subsequent attempts to undermine Einstein’s scientific accolades highlight the intensity of the clash between their contrasting views on the nature of time. It was a major philosophical and scientific debate that played out publicly between these two eminent thinkers.

Investigating this story can provide deep and interesting insights with regard the evolution and history of Western philosophy.

My own involvement in this can be found in the following case about science its 2025+ attempt to escape Big Bang cosmology, which is fundamentally related to the idea of :clock3: time having a beginning.

The Attempt to Escape Big Bang Cosmology

Timescape Theory as a Mask for :red_circle: Tired Light Theory

https://cosmicphilosophy.org/timescape-theory/

I had managed to show using philosophical evidence, that science its ‘neutrino’ concept is a dogmatic attempt to escape ∞ infinite divisibility, and that neutrinos cannot exist.

When I sent out a press release to thousands of media globally, it was ignored and rejected, despite some polite responses.

A month later a study was published claiming “Dark Matter doesn’t exist” accompanied by profound claims that it would provide a foundational change agent for cosmology.

Some of the headlines in the global media:

  • New study blows dark energy theory to bits ~ Yahoo News
  • Dark energy mystery is finally SOLVED - as scientists come up with a radical new theory ~ DailyMail
  • Mysterious dark energy breakthrough as scientists announce radical new theory ~ GBNews
  • Profound consequences”: Canterbury University scientists make dark energy breakthrough ~ Radio New Zealand

The case on CosmicPhilosophy.org reveals that this might be an attempt to escape decades ongoing suppression of other theories that challenged the Big Bang theory, and that the new proposed Timescape theory itself, is actually a mask for the original challenging theory of the Big Bang, the “Tired Light” theory that originates from 1929.

It is worth noting that I am actually an amateur in this. The philosophical investigation as basis of CosmicPhilosophy.org, and the conclusion that neutrinos cannot exist, costed me about two weeks time with a self-created AI philosophical research tool that I had developed for the purpose.

It made me wonder what professional philosophers might be able to do when using modern tools and being fundamentally set to break boundaries. This was the motivation to create CosmicPhilosophy.org, to inspire a philosophical investigation of physics and cosmology.

The logic that I was discovering was so simple that it seems more likely that this concerns an investigation of ‘corruption’ than actual mistaken ideas of science.

For example, when scientists claim to discover ‘new exotic particles’ in particle accelerators, these concern anomalies that instantaneously ‘re-normalize’ to basic protonic structure and this is philosophically revealing that these are not to be considered particles.

  • the scientists introduce energy in the measurement context
  • the scientists introduce fundamental ‘directionality’ within that introduced energy context

The above is excluded from the idea ‘exotic particle’. So here’s an open door for philosophy.

In quantum computing, this ‘re-normalization’ (as of december 2024, thus this is very new) is to be called ‘quantum magic’, as it is a fundamental mysterious force.

Quantum computing/AI developers are now trying to use quantum magic as a foundation for computing, which would go a step further than quantum spin and even more likely - from a philosophical or ‘simple logic’ perspective - create a basis for living computing or living AI.

The Einstein-Bergson case might be highly valuable for insights about the evolution and history of philosophy and science, and can be used as a basis to question common conceptions and ideas about for example :clock3: time.

Interesting! Can you please tell the story?

I’ve been discussing the phenomenon ‘lack of females in philosophy’.

Partially Examined Life podcast, episode 130 Aristotle’s “De Anima: What is life?” (origin of life) mentioned the following:

The sad state of philosophy today is that 80% of our audience is male and at least as many people that contact us as potential guests, are male.

I then found out that there is a Wikipedia article dedicated to the subject:

"While there have been women philosophers since the earliest times, and a few were accepted as philosophers during their lives, almost no woman philosophers have entered the philosophical Western canon. Only in the past 25 years there has been a small change with the emergence of feminist philosophy.
Women in philosophy - Wikipedia

In ancient Egyptian religion, Ma’at is the Goddess of Truth, Justice, Morality and Philosophy.

In Western culture, similar to the image of Goddess Ma’at, Lady of Justice is a female that represents morality and Justice.

So why are there almost no females in Western philosophy?

I’ve investigated this topic a bit, but I didn’t notice anything about your notion that a woman might have been responsible for 80% of the work of Albert Einstein.

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Wrong thread

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I’ve added a blog on the case:

Albert Einstein versus Philosophy On The Beginning of :clock3: Time

On April 6, 1922, at a meeting of the Société française de philosophie in Paris. Albert Einstein, fresh from the global fame of his theory of relativity and en route to :jp: Japan after his 1921 Nobel Prize announcement, delivered a lecture on relativity in which he declared that science had finally overcome philosophy.

Einstein’s opening salvo was direct and dismissive. In response to a question about the philosophical implications of relativity, he declared:

This statement, delivered in German but widely reported, encapsulated Einstein’s belief that science had rendered philosophical speculation about time obsolete.

French philosophy professor Henri Bergson sat in the audience and became infuriated.

Einstein-Bergson Debate: Albert Einstein's Clash with Philosophy on 🕒 Time

The Einstein-Bergson debate was not merely a disagreement about :mantelpiece_clock: clocks but represented a centuries ongoing attempt of science to emancipate itself from philosophy.

Einstein’s dismissal of philosophy reflected the aspiration of science to gain autonomy and to break free from philosophy.

Philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche (1844-1900) in Beyond Good and Evil (Chapter 6 – We Scholars) described the situation as following:

The declaration of independence of the scientific man, his emancipation from philosophy, is one of the subtler after-effects of democratic organization and disorganization: the self- glorification and self-conceitedness of the learned man is now everywhere in full bloom, and in its best springtime – which does not mean to imply that in this case self-praise smells sweet. Here also the instinct of the populace cries, “Freedom from all masters!” and after science has, with the happiest results, resisted theology, whose “hand-maid” it had been too long, it now proposes in its wantonness and indiscretion to lay down laws for philosophy, and in its turn to play the “master” – what am I saying! to play the PHILOSOPHER on its own account.

Science aspired to become the master of itself and Einstein’s notion that Die Zeit der Philosophen ist vorbei (The time of the philosophers is over (passé)) represented that movement.

Einstein essentially declared that science was finally freed from philosophy.

It is an interesting case that reveals that the heart of the scientism-movement is paradoxically founded on a philosophical position on :clock3: Time.

Looking forward to it!

I am still waiting for details that reveals a hidden scope of female philosophy in history, and a substantiation for the claim that “a woman was responsible for 80% of the work of Albert Einstein.

I’ve been doing some further investigation of the Henri Bergson versus Albert Einstein debate on the nature of time, and it revealed that this event is more profound from the perspective of philosophy than it would appear based on public available information.

Albert Einstein’s Nobel Prize for relativity was revoked directly due to the event, and Henri Bergson was known as “the most dangerous man in the world” for his influence through ‘hidden networks’ of prestige.

The chairman of the Nobel Committee stated the following as official ground for rejecting Einstein’s Nobel Prize for relativity:

“It will be no secret that the famous philosopher Bergson in Paris has challenged this theory.”

The Committee’s use of the term “famous” and the reference of “Paris” reveals that they were elevating Bergson’s personal influence and standing as a justification for their decision.

The only potential source of personal bias in this situation would be on Bergson’s side, not the Committee’s.

Jimena Canales, professor of history at the University of Illinois at Urbana, concluded the following:

The Nobel Committee’s explanation that day surely reminded Einstein of [his dismissal of philosophy] in Paris that would spark a conflict with Bergson.

The Nobel Committee had no logical ground for rejecting Albert Einstein’s Nobel Prize for relativity.

Bergson was largely perceived to have lost the debate against Einstein and public sentiments had sided with Einstein. For many, Bergson’s defeat represented a victory of scientific “rationality” against metaphysical “intuition”.

The Nobel Committee had no institutional inclination to defend metaphysical philosophy or to defy public sentiments and scientific consensus, and it was the Committee that had nominated Einstein in the first place, therefore their decision negatively impacted their own organization’s credibility.

In the aftermath, the Nobel Committee faced intense criticism, further revealing that their action had been defiant of public sentiments.

Einstein’s Response

Instead of the Nobel Prize for relativity, Einstein received a Nobel Prize for his work on the photoelectric effect.

Einstein responded by lecturing on relativity at the Nobel ceremony, therewith dishonoring the Nobel Committee’s decision and making a statement.


“The Great Setback For Philosophy”

The event would mark “the great setback for philosophy” that until that event, had seen a period of flourishing most prominently represented by Henri Bergson’s work on the nature of time.

Albert Einstein’s dramatic action to lecture relativity during the ceremony for his Nobel Prize for the photoelectric effect played into the public sentiments of the time and caused a moral loss for philosophy that had an effect that went much beyond an intellectual loss.

The revokation of Einstein’s Nobel Prize for relativity due to “critique by a “famous” philosopher”, while public opinion had sided with Einstein, fueled a moral justification for science to break free from philosophy.


When studying the work of Henri Bergson in 2024, not for an investigation but based on a recommendation and with the idea that he might provide a strong defense for concepts such as free will, my initial impression was that Henri Bergson was ‘losing on purpose’.

Could it be that “the great setback for philosophy” and the subsequent rise and flourishing of scientism is part of philosophy’s centuries ongoing self-imposed enslavement to scientism?

Philosophy’s Self-imposed Enslavement to Scientism

Philosophy as a field may historically have instantiated or contributed to the development of dogmatic scientism with the selection of specific icons of Western philosophy.

For example, pillar of philosophy Emmanuel Kant’s apodictical certainty concept, which is knowledge that is necessarily true and cannot be doubted and more specifically concerns the belief in the realness (non-disputableness) of space and time, is dogmatically adopted and fundamentally underlays his whole philosophy.

Kant’s concept of apodictic certainty goes beyond just a strong claim and is a claim of absolute, indubitable truth, which is akin to religious dogma. Kant scholars write the following about Kant’s account of reason that fundamentally underlays the concept:

We might note that Kant never discussed reason as such. This leaves a difficult interpretative task: just what is Kant’s general and positive account of reason?

The first thing to note is Kant’s bold claim that reason is the arbiter of truth in all judgments—empirical as well as metaphysical. Unfortunately, he barely develops this thought, and the issue has attracted surprisingly little attention in the literature.

Kant’s Reason Source: plato.stanford.edu

Similar to religions, by neglecting to address the fundamental nature of reason, Kant abused the fundamental mystery of existence for an absolute truth claim and that provides evidence of intent to establish dogmatic scientism when viewed in light of the purpose clearly communicated at the start of Kant’s philosophical project: the grounding of science with indubitable certainty.

The same abuse of the mystery of existence is seen in René Descartes famous claim cogito ergo sum (I think, therefore I am) that similar to Kant’s apodictical certainty seeks to establish indubitable truth.

In the work of pillar of philosophy Edmund Husserl, the aspiration to ground science with certainty is set forward from the start and Husserl even profoundly deviates from his past philosophy in a later attempt to serve that primary purpose: the grounding of science (which means: enabling science to depart from philosophy through dogma).

Mystery of Existence

The mystery of existence has a paradoxical ability to facilitate the strongest conviction possible in experiential beings, exemplified most simply by Decartes cogito ergo sum (I think, therefore I am), and rather than a psychological flaw it might be considered a fundamental moral driver. However, that does not imply that philosophy as a field should yield to scientism, in my opinion.

Albert Einstein’s dismissal of philosophy at a gathering of the Philosophy Society of France shortly after having received his Nobel Prize nomination for relativity in 1921, resulting in ‘the great setback for philosophy’ in history, is a culmination of a then centuries ongoing movement to emancipate science from philosophy that in part originated from icons of philosophy since as early as René Descartes.

Philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche (1844-1900) in Beyond Good and Evil (Chapter 6 – We Scholars) described the evolution as following:

The declaration of independence of the scientific man, his emancipation from philosophy, is one of the subtler after-effects of democratic organization and disorganization: the self- glorification and self-conceitedness of the learned man is now everywhere in full bloom, and in its best springtime – which does not mean to imply that in this case self-praise smells sweet. Here also the instinct of the populace cries, “Freedom from all masters!” and after science has, with the happiest results, resisted theology, whose “hand-maid” it had been too long, it now proposes in its wantonness and indiscretion to lay down laws for philosophy, and in its turn to play the “master” – what am I saying! to play the PHILOSOPHER on its own account.

Science aspired to become the master of itself and Einstein’s declaration at a gathering of philosophers in Paris “The time of the philosophers is over” represented that aspiration.

From the works of Descartes, Kant, and Husserl to the contemporary era, a recurring theme emerges: the self-imposed attempt to enslave philosophy to scientism.

Professor of history Jimena Canales, author of the book Simply Einstein, cited earlier, is specialized in the history of the Einstein-Bergson debate event and described the event as following:

The “dialogue between the greatest philosopher and the greatest physicist of the 20th century” was dutifully written down. It was a script fit for the theater. The meeting, and the words they uttered, would be discussed for the rest of the century.

In the years that followed the debate, … the scientist’s views on time came to dominate. … For many, the philosopher’s defeat represented a victory of “rationality” against “intuition”. … Thus began “the story of the setback for philosophy”, … then began the period when the relevance of philosophy declined in the face of the rising influence of science.

She wrote a book about the event: The Physicist and the Philosopher | Princeton University Press

Her website:

In a sense, professor Canales is a female philosopher.

LOL.

Hilarious example of butthurt. And philosophers wonder why no one takes them seriously.

I would question whether Bergson actually did abuse his ‘influence’ for personal/emotional interests. While he was known as “the most dangerous man in the world” due to his influence through ‘hidden networks’ of prestige, he was also considered one of the most intelligent persons on earth.

William James described Bergson as following:

“an exquisite genius, perhaps the most so among the living”

Einstein’s Contradiction

As professor of history Jimena Canales remarked in her study of the Einstein-Bergson debate, Einstein’s private notes revealed that he considered that Bergson had fully and correctly understood his theory of relativity.

In public however, Bergson was established to have made ‘obvious mistakes’ and that he didn’t understand the theory of relativity. Einstein would publicly argue that Bergson didn’t understand his theory and on the basis of that, Einstein would win the debate from the perspective of the public.

How can this have been an accident? Did Bergson fail to understand the theory of relativity? Even his students would leave Bergson for this failure, revealing the profound nature of his apparent ‘failure of intellect’ that would cause ‘the great setback for philosophy’.

The contradiction revealed by Einstein’s private notes is an indication of ‘intent’ to lose on purpose on the side of Bergson.


In the topic about Universal Basic Income it became apparent that you are on the side of the defense of concepts such as free will and “consciousness beyond the brain” (i.e. not ‘mimick-able’ by artificial intelligence).

Did you read Henri Bergson?

What would you think about my idea that Bergson might have “lost the debate on purpose”, potentially for the purpose of (socio-culturally) developing dogmatic scientism?

OK sure. Show me some examples of this “most genius person alive at the time”.

I am working on a book bundle publication of Henri Bergson’s 1922 Duration and Simultaneity, which is Bergson’s critique of Einstein’s theory of relativity that would culminate into “the great setback for philosophy”, bundled with Einstein’s theory of relativity.

The book will be professionally translated from the original French and German texts into 42 languages using advanced AI with “full knowledge of all of Bergson’s and Einstein’s” works and all academic research on both Bergson’s philosophy and Einstein’s theory of relativity, combined with advanced capabilities for translating the ‘meaning’ into different languages. The new English translation might rival the quality of the official translation.

The book bundle will include a critical investigation of the Einstein-Bergson debate.

The book will enable to achieve a deeper philosophical understanding of Einstein’s theory of relativity by placing Einstein’s theory in light of Bergson’s philosophical critique.

Soon to be published here: Free Cosmic Philosophy eBooks (it might take a month or so, since the translation is costly).

The philosopher Jean Wahl once said that “if one had to name the four great philosophers one could say: Socrates, Plato — taking them together — Descartes, Kant, and Bergson”.

The philosopher and historian of philosophy Étienne Gilson categorically claimed that the first third of the 20th century was “the age of Bergson”.

Professor of history Jimena Canales, cited earlier, stated the following:

Bergson was simultaneously considered “the greatest thinker in the world” and “the most dangerous man in the world”.

I don’t care what someone else said about someone else.

Show me an example of this famous amazing supergenius philosophy of Bergson.