end of youtube and facebook?

If this happens I would not be so depressed facebook sucks and youtube takes up time… but it did help revolutions etcetera… Dont now where I stand it would become a bit calmer if all this shit was shut down I suppose… everybody would be talking philosophy maybe… yeah right.

act.demandprogress.org/sign/pipa … ?source=fb

oh fuck, this makes me worried.

this also reflects on the efficacy of democracy: what percent of americans actually want this?

It would force social networking underground probably. It seems short sighted and daft but I can’t say I would be devastated if FB wasn’t in my life.

i’m not worried about facebook either, but youtube…youtube’s important.

Well at least the main purpose of the interweb will still be alive and kicking: the free and unlimited exchange of pornography.

Youtube wouldn’t die all that would happen is the sharing of ideas would move to less legal avenues or outside of silly countries that decided to make site owners absolutely responsible for a bunch of strange peoples views.

Personally I think if there is a danger of large and wealthy ISP and services moving out of mainland America the chances of this bill passing is negligible as well.

sorry if this is off topic but…

i wonder why people aren’t talking about direct democracy yet. i mean, probably since the telephone and tv, and definitely since the internet, this country has been capable of bypassing the “republic” part of our “democratic republic” system. representatives were useful, imo, pre-phone because people just didn’t have the time and money to go visit washingtonDC every time a public decision needed to be made. the resources weren’t available to allow everyone to vote on every issue, so the republic was necessary: instead of people voting on every issue, they just vote on a representative who then votes for them, right?

but now people can vote for every single issue. the internet is even more accessible than the biennial polling booths, suggesting to me that direct voting on individual issues is actually an easier option than presidential and midterm elections. the only downside is the risk of the system somehow getting hacked, but it’s the government…i’m sure they’d have a way around that…

I think another risk is that making any decision-making process less efficient tends to ensure more stability and possibly better decisionmaking (at least in theory, not sure how the reality would work out). If you want something to change you have to know what you want and fight for it. And if in the midst of the fighting you rethink what you want, you might not have the energy to keep fighting. Think of any of the decisions that people make quickly and effortlessly. How many of those decisions were thoughtless and ill-conceived?

Direct democracy would make a good thread of its own…

Given that we already have Mods, we’re already ahead of the game.

I’m going to have to read this Bill if it gets through the Senate and signed into law, hopefully we won’t have to Moderate against anything that we don’t already.

it doesn’t matter what we want anymore

Care to explain that?

that may have been in response to my post above, in which i say

Ah yes that would make sense. :slight_smile:

In a democracy when too many people bypass what people want the natural consequence is riots and protests. That at least gives the people a voice, the turd sandwich and vaginal douche thing does tend to grate. :slight_smile: