Everything from nothing

Why does the Bible state that god created everything from nothing, when

A. God is something.

B. Nothing is still something philosophically and even mathematically.

C. True nothingness is impossible to be comprehended.

If god can comprehend true nothingness and did indeed create all out of nothingness, why would it expect humanity to be able to comprehend that same nothingness of which something was apparently created out of, wouldn’t that be a godly trait in itself that humanity would then possess, if it had the actual ability to.

If one was able to comprehend true nothingness, I would recognize that to be a transcendental ability. Anytime the concept of “nothing” is brought up, it is by default still something because it exists as a concept, a context = image..

A pitch black empty room void of anything = something.

0 = something.

Empty space = something.

No matter how it is defined or thought about or of, it is still something, by default. Even having a word attached to it and trying to define it, shapes it into something.

I believe there was always something, because logically, there was, so why the flaw in Bible logic?

The something that begins to exist is not the same as the source/Father (even if/though coeternal with the Father). This is pretty good:

And this: Doctrine of Creation (Part 4): The Notion of “Bringing Something Into Being” | Defenders: 3 | Reasonable Faith

We disagree on some details, but not any relevant ones where this is concerned.

I don’t understand your confusion between somethingness and nothingness. They’re two words to separate stuff for a reason.

Do you think the people who made that word messed up? I would try looking into the origins of the word nothingness and see why it was even invented/used.

There was never not something is what I am arguing. There has been and always will be something. Nothingness itself, is still something. Even if there is no matter, no space, no change, and this all is absent of anything and everything. That is still something.

Because it is still an idea. It’s a point and even if there were an absence of all, it clearly leads to an everything.

I’m not arguing the words. I am making the point that there has always been something. And everything wasn’t “created from nothing”, nothingness itself contradicts the very nature of what it is supposed to be because it is still something, even if it is just an idea or a point on a timeline, a timeline that would not even exist yet.

Mathematically, 0 is still relevant and something.

If no space, change or physicality (matter), void, is still something, even if just a tiny point with no where and nothing to operate as it does.

The absence of something = nothing, the absence of something = still something, even if it is just a concept or blank slate.

You said a flaw in Bible logic? Explain.

Because god did not create everything from nothing, nothingness contradicts itself and no matter what, it begins and ends as something, it being written into the Bible that the god performed such a transcendental act makes no sense, considering it would be transcendental and not comprehensible to humans.

So how could that be written and understood as having happened, when it is incomprehensible to human mind.

The Bible should correct it as “god created everything from something” because nothing is still something. To say that it created everything from nothing, would exclude the god from its own existing. If it exists and created, then there cannot be “nothing”.

Ok that makes sense.

God is eternal and stuff and He always existed.

And if that is the case then something has always existed. Nullifying “nothingness”. Which my argument is that there has always been something and never an absence of it.

The Bible could even correct it as “God created everything from itself, giving part to manifest all existence”

So the god can create everything from nothing, but needs clay sculpting to create humans? Why not create humans from nothing too? It’s just logically not sound.

Maybe we’re all really invisible like God and he made us visible.

I think god is a force with and in all things that exist and the best way to know it, is through the pursuit of wisdom. Which is kind of a spiritual Gnosticism.

Which is why enlightenment and gnosis are so emphasized, not only in the Bible, but within most religious and spiritual practices. There is often truth found through and in diversity that shows hints of consistency.

The only something that there is is eternal spiritual agency subsuming the whole/coeternal temporal timeline/demonstration—the source/power of potentiality.

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Doesn’t he look like Artemis? I think it’s hot. He’s from Gladiator.

Holy shit he totally does.

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I liked him better in Signs.