Whatever color it happens to be. You aren’t making great arguments right now.
dasein, I presume?
That in itself doesn’t rule out self=other, just like getting an F on a math test doesn’t rule out right answers, or the possibility of learning them.
Most of your post I agree with because it is mostly just elaborating on self=other.
strawman. I never said the 10 commandments were perfect, i said all civilizations would have a form of their own 10 commandments, such as an atheist 10 commandments that has their own version.
there is not one perfect car, but there are many cars that are objectively inferior. there is still objectivity and absolutism. For example a car that is not aerodynamic, or a car with cheap parts that are not robust, or poor gas-mileage to weight ratios, etc.
Coincidentally enough, being aero gives it good economy, speed and looks.
What are you saying? That laws should not apply to individuals? What are you saying? What is your opinion on ASI that rivals or exceeds the complexity of a human brain?
strawman fallacy.
i stated that morality can be achieved by increasing tech, lab grown meats. I also stated there are moral paradoxes. also, even though some forms of morality are absolute, that doesn’t mean everyone follows them 100%.
No seriously. State the SIXTH commandment.
If you do not know what it is - look it up.
It is ordered differently, or a commandment is split into two. So?
No. There is no paradox. There IS subjectivity.
I would not eat lab grown meat.
By what rubric have you imposed your subejctive belief that morality is about suffering?
But what is it??
I thought that i you were capable of promoting morality as a set of objective rules then you would have not problem.
Yet here we are, you both have evaded the question. twice
there is the bear deer paradox. If a bear eats meat and kills the deer. Is it moral? Is it immoral? Who can say? Lets give up and say morality is subjective.
in my opinion if morality is not based on reducing net suffering then its poorly defined
No. I said self=other, which is true. It is the sum of the Law & Prophets.
there is nothing to evade. never said the 10 commandments are perfect. i said u can make your own custom atheist commandments
IN YOUR OPINION.
Such an admission of failure so soon
i mean anyone can make their own definitions in any argument and win the argument.
like if someone says airplanes were invented by god in the jurassic era. Then defines airplanes as “flying dinosaurs” and god as “natural evolution”. then they can win the argument
if someone defines morality as some nonsense that doesnt have anything to do with net suffering then they can also logically say that morality is subjective.
It is about self=other, which frames suffering as meaningful if in conformity with it. Love is not love without demonstration despite circumstances. If you have a painless, pleasureful life of ease and abundance, but you don’t have love… you have nothing.
i didnt say pain i said suffering. Pain can be good such as VR
you are a human who’s brain is wired for conflict and pain, otherwise you will experience ennui. I said this in another thread but did i get praised for it? No i get criticized for posting it in a different thread.
Should we upgrade human brains to be less primitive, and be able to transcend it? Absolutely.
Can you link me to it? You sound upset. Let’s resolve this.
I didn’t exclude suffering.
…transcend what?
https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/transcendental-universalism/81130
Transcend human limitations. Experiencing everlasting joy. Because there is always some contrarian in a forums to say how humans need pain and suffering to enrich their lives. And they do. Because they are human. Because they have not transcended. The human brain must be modified to be high all the time, achieving everlasting peace.