Being a powerful illusion implies it is simply a trick of the human mind itself into thinking there is individual autonomy when in reality all individuals are part of a much greater collective organism. In reality what affects the collective dictates the decision making processes of the individual. Choices and options being severely limited to environment or the collective social strata.
Freedom is when you are separated from binary.
For me words like predetermination, fate, and destiny in all actuality is that something far greater than ourselves that controls the fabric of reality where we must humble ourselves to the fact that we donāt control everything.
People call this nature, evolution, God, quantum physics, or even a cosmic force, but at the end of the day all human beings exist at the mercy of this ever constant force of the universe.
I do admit that. The US Government stopped seizing and breaking corporate Monopolies after 9-11. Even the Enron scandal, and then 2008 Wall Street Bankster scheme, all of them got off scott-free. That was the moment that the US Government turned against the American People, and sold itself to Corporations and Big Donors (Zionists / Israel).
The Trump phenomenon was mostly responsible, because of the loss of faith of the people, toward the Government (ie. Populism). Only the Marxist Left has retained its organizational effectiveness, and this is being accelerated because of their ideological fervor.
I agreeā¦
But @promethean75 doesnāt seem to think that way, or, realize where his own flawed arguments are collapsing into circles. Nobody can have it both ways: Determinism and Free-Will. Thus, Determinists need to explain the logical inconsistency of how a āfeeling of Free-Willā must not be āmere self-delusionā. Anybody appealing to āCausalityā, then, must explain how Cause and Effect is properly predicted ā¦ and all the ways that itās not. It cannot be accounted for.
Because nobody knows the Absolute Infinite Future. Therefore, there is no Determinism or Pre-Determinism, without the premise and axiom of an All-Knowing, Omniscient, Entity (like God).
Interesting because I see Determinism as more logically invalidā¦
Everything in the physical is binaryā¦..Itās a scientific FACT that you interpret varying frequency electromagnetic energy waves (containing binary data) emitted from vibrating matter.
Your physical body senses pick up these waves and they are converted into binary signals and a software program which operates the biological machine body.
You watch and listen to LIVE tv as well as being an active actor/player in what you are watching.
Binary science is amazing ā¦ā¦.who needs BS mainstream atheistic Santa Scienceā¦..
It really isnāt the Marxist left, itās liberals and as a genuine Marxist myself I donāt consider them to be real leftists at all. For me liberals are a bunch of fake leftists and utterly ignorant people in general.
A Marxist believes in economic or financial redistribution, a liberal believes in racial and sexual redistribution. Both are not the same at all. What you modern conservatives constantly complain about has nothing to do with Marxism and has everything to do with liberalism.
As a Marxist myself I am anti liberal as well, but where I part ways with conservatives politically is their gravitation towards fascism and capitalism.
What the 20th and now 21st Century has proved about Marxism though, is that it requires a specific Homogeneity to work and succeed (Chinese Communist Party) that Westerners / White people just donāt have. We donāt have those genetics. Europeans are internally divided (Nationalists). Europeans never really worked together, until massive foreign threats assembled (Genghis Khanate from the East, Ottoman Arabian Turks from fallen Constantinople), or were organized into Crusaders under Totalitarian Roman Catholicism.
Napoleon tried and failed. Hitler tried and failed. Many have tried to āconquerā Europe. Theyāve all failed.
I agree that ethnic racial nationalism is a real thing and historically theyāre functioning societies that work.
What we have in the west however is a situation where our own greed and ideological fixation of economic capitalism has brought all of the foreigners we have today where simply saying we should go about getting rid of them all overnight is unrealistic and it puts us on a path of dangerous multiethnic civil war.
I do understand the desire of white European people wanting to remain an ethnic majority of their own nations, I get that and I can understand that sentiment, however, I think you can get that by sealing the borders along with halting all foreign immigration with the added bonus of a higher population domestically by increasing fertility supporting traditional marriage family life.
There is no reason to be disparaging or cruel to the foreigners and other racial ethnicities that are already here for many generations. We can all live side by side multiracially in mutual respect.
The second largest national racial ethnicity in the United States is Mexicans and youāre not going to get rid of all of them especially here in the southwest from where I am at.
But overall Mexicans are a conservative social people and I think peaceful cooperative coexistence with them is possible. Stop the influx of mass foreign immigration, seal the national borders, support traditional marriage, and I think these racial or ethnic conflicts will balance themselves out overtime because the American working class of Europeans, Mexicans, Asians, black Africans, Central Americans, and so on will be enjoying enough economic prosperity that there will no longer be any point to fight each other domestically anymore.
I agree with thisā¦
I do NOT agree with this. The American Left want blood, and thatās it. I believe the main reason they targeted Charlie Kirk, and none else, was because Charlie Kirk represented the Cultural resistance and spread of the American Rightwing, in Christian Protestant Fundamentalism: Peace. The Leftists, in their irrational bloodlust, killed the peace maker. Charlie Kirk is symbolic of the Constitutionās First Amendment.
If we cannot discuss our disagreements and air our grievances, then itās war. And the Left demonstrated, still demonstrate, that thatās what they want. Nothing else will satisfy them. Youād be a fool to trust the Leftwing, from the Right, at this point.
Did we not have a similar Far-Leftie, on this forum, in January 2021, saying he wanted to / wants to āput a bullet in the headā of every Rightwinger??? Hm, @MrAuthoritarian ?
Thatās the division in the US.
āInteresting because I see Determinism as more logically invalidā¦ā
You shouldnāt, though. In the case where neither theory can be tested, you would go with the one that would seem to be most likely true.
You would observe how material objects and forces behave, their causal regularity and continuity, and then suspect that you also, as a material object and force, are a subject of such causal regularity and continuity.
If you werenāt, it would mean there is some special attribute about your class of material object that makes you impervious to the causality that affects everything else.
This is why to be a freewillist is to be a substance dualist; you have to insert a causal agency that is independent of the effects of material objects and forcesā¦ one that pulls itself up by its own boot-straps, as it were.
Half of you guys donāt realize that youāre cartesians. I didnāt want to embarrass you guys so I never said anything.
There is no such Regularity or Continuity where it concerns living organisms though.
Most liberals are harmless, they just believe in a lot of ridiculous absurd things politically like cat ladies who think they can talk to their pet animals. Sure, theyāre delirious, but ultimately harmless a majority of the time.
The violent liberals will be treated like every other violent criminal in this nation as they should be.
The way to win the debate against liberals ultimately is through political and philosophical discourse by winning hearts or minds exchanging ideas.
For me words like predetermination, fate, and destiny in all actuality is that something far greater than ourselves that controls the fabric of reality where we must humble ourselves to the fact that we donāt control everything.
yes I believe in fate and gods.
Even if choices are limited there are still choices, such as when someone doesnāt know what color or shape or style of an item to pick, etc. Usually there is no freewill required: All that is required is that one analyzes it purely logically, like a Spock perspective. However, there are some instances where either the choice is too complex to handle with logic, or there are so many pros and cons of each item that the choice is unclear. In this case, we see an example of true human choice coming to the forefront. Whether or not the choice is true freewill or not is unclear.
Ha!!!
So intelligence is more cosmeticā¦..puzzle making.
It would explain the obvious differences in academic and athletic performancesā¦.right?
Like a true Marxist.
All are the sameā¦..the differences are tinyā¦..insignificantā¦..irrelevant. Physical, not mental.
Ha!!
My entire thesis is that environment is decisive.
But you want to say is that the last 6 thousand yearsā¦.like Care-less the liberalā¦..history, is what mattersā¦..what preceded history - written - is insignificant.
The last 6 000 years created human disparitiesā¦.not the 80 000+ years before that.
Right lefty?
Eventually you were going to show your true colours.
Race = human subspecies of the homo sapient species, identifies via appearances, manifesting different ranges of potentials in ALL traitsā¦.not only physical traits.
Ethnicity = culture + race, determined by tens of thousands of years of natural selection - environmental conditioning - producing a culture presetting their collective relationship with existence.
This has nothing to do with the subjectā¦.this is how you want to cope with what is being revealedā¦..the unfairness of nature.
BUTā¦if you cannot acknowledge the truth, then how can you modify the parts you dislike?
If you minimize and selectively maximize the truth, then how can you successfully change it or find ways to deal with the implications?
Denial.
And this is why Marxism is a secular form of Christianity - Platonism + Judaism. Metaphysical ideals, coupled with victim psychology, governed by fear, and vengeance.
My true colors?
I have already conceded that different races and ethnicities are different sub species of humanity.
I have already conceded that white European people deserve to have a cultural identity of their own.
I have already conceded that there is nothing wrong with ethnic nationalism or nation states.
What I havenāt conceded on is that different races and ethnicities are superior or inferior to each other in relation. I think that type of thinking is baseless where different races or ethnicities have different kinds of intelligence as they are racially different.
But, where does this need come from inside of you and others to speak about superior intelligence over others? I just donāt see where that need arrives from or why it is even necessary at all.
Is it a dominance thing? Why this obsession of superior intelligence?
Besides, for the conservatives there is the likes of Elon Musk saying weāre all going to be replaced by machines or robots where competing human intelligence will be a thing of the past where weāll all be non-thinking slaves and drones together in the super A.I. machine. The machines will do all the thinking for us, our own intelligence rendered obsolete.
If that becomes a reality, what will become of your superiority of intelligence then?
Itās an uncomfortable and unfortunate fact that environment affects both the body and the mindā¦no one or the other.
Natural selection selects the advantageousā¦..of both physical AND mental, psychological traitsā¦.like IQ.
IQ measures pattern recognition, memory awarenessā¦abstract thinking.
This makes all the differenceā¦differentiating mud huts form marble templesā¦..canoes from sailing shipsā¦..spears from musketsā¦..
Now, what to do about it is a separate issue, isnāt it lefty?
If I say that a sheepherd dog is smarter than a chihuahuaā¦.am I proposing violence or death or exploitation of one or the other dog breeds?
If I say orangutans are smarter than spider monkeyā¦.am I advocating a monkey holocaust?
Noā¦i am simply stating a fact.
You lefties don to like to acknowledge uncomfortable facts, because it soils your Platonic idealism.
So, environment must only affect the body, only for one species, and the affects on the brain, from where mind emerges, are insignificantā¦minorā¦irrelevantā¦.letās ignore them, or downplay them, even if they produce actual behavioral consequences.
Letās assume that, due to language, all humans were created equalā¦.and nature was humane and fairā¦and that humans cause all human injustices.
Why?
Because en can be traiend to regurgitate and repeat jargon, and imitateā¦.so the illusion of parity can be maintained.
Letās now turn the tables and declare human diversity an āillusionā to pre-empts any challenge to the Marxist/Abrahamic delusion.
All appearances are superficialā¦.for one speciesā¦..You canāt judge a book by its cover, right?
Why one species? Logosā¦..wordsā¦..that one species can deny and fabricate excuses and twist and spin-doctor the apparentā¦Because one species can be traiend to behave and think and act in uniform waysā¦..calling it civilized.
We can train chimps to do the same, but they donāt quite pull it off, right?
If a wealthy super educated couple doesnāt reproduce contrasted to an average human couple of a completely average education background that has six children, who is the more evolutionary successful?