Generations

[size=150]Past[/size]
The generation that came before me is doesn’t get the internet, and thus are stuck to be brainwashed by the MSM. It’s pretty much one or the other: you get your news or it’s given to you. Years after the internet has figured out social issues, these are the people standing around still debating them. They are cut off from the collective. Sitting around watching television rehashing the same old shit that goes nowhere. Riddled with cancer. Paralyzed with a practiced apathy. Scared of the transcendental or profound. Self-professed as too old to care.

[size=150]Present[/size]
My generation, by contrast, is different. Information flows between us almost instantly. We solve issues quickly. We’re trying to eat healthy, fix the mountainous pile of wrong created by the previous generation, as well as build interesting technological solutions. We care about the future. We demonstrate how to make money without acting like a spiritually bankrupt asshole. We’re maybe not as in touch with nature it as the previous generation, but we recognize the beauty and need to preserve it. We use drugs responsibly and push for the expansion of spiritual boundaries. We are inspired.

[size=150]Future[/size]
Left unchecked, the generation that will come after me will be (from the looks of it) a sexually stunted, borderline personality collection of boys concerned with pretty much just games. The women will be husks of personality largely running the world. Both will be pumped full of some of the worst food that the world has ever seen as enabled by laws voted on by the generation that came before mine. There will be no concept of family. Technology will be god. All the wrong drugs will be legal. Occasionally this generation will produce individuals that are going to aid in the earth, but overall this will be the lowest point of human potential that history has seen. Weak, pathetic, peer-pressure-driven blobs. Cancer will likely be in the range of 75% or something like that.

So for example the Monsanto thing:

Voted on and enabled by the previous generation of sellouts.

Will be fought and criticized by my generation.

Will fucking devastate, categorically across the board, the health of the next generation.

So maybe you old people can just fuck off. Because you’re not helping in any way. The next time your child tries to tell you something about the world just nod and do what they say. That is, unless you can prove you actively get your news as opposed to passively have it rammed down your throat. There should be some sort of test for that. That is basically the definition of thinking in the New Age.

The last woman I “played house” with was diagnosed with “Borderline Personality Disorder”, she may have been one of the “first” (not to be confused with “the” first: this is a Philosophy forum)

([size=50]I just wanted to be part of this thread[/size].)

You know… the UK has the highest levels of food additives and preservatives more than any other country, and the cancer rates here are now 1 in 4… that is no coincidence - the future generation/s have no say over this, but they can and should vote with their pockets and choose not to buy the poisons that are causing cancers and intolerances that were not around or so abundant prior to this rise.

Don’t know how old you are, but as far as I can tell people in their 20’s/30s while getting more information from non-MSM are one of the most surface-focused and distracted generations ever. Clothesobsessed, latest cellphone, waxed, plasticed, fake tanned, surfing (the newer more effective channel jumping), mailing, texting, gaming, shopping, adhd as a norm, self-flooded with details and no real sense of themselves and not quite anywhere in the world or quite with the people they are with or doing quite what they are doing, since they are always doing something else and calls and texts and ‘cool’ images are pouring at them 24/7. They are like transit points for data.

Call my version a counter myth.

It’s a little hard for me to judge my generation because I spent so much of my life with a fairly radical fringe that was always pretty skeptical of mainstream news. I think the future will show an even more extreme split between brain dead, shallow minds sifting through bits of images, info, entertainment, communicatin and not being where they are and having no sense of self, and then a small minority who is more saavy.

I understand you have your world view Gobbo and you want to tell everyone about it. And it’s far from out of context especially in the Society, Government, and Economics subforum. I’m sure you go to many forums related to such topics as in the tiltle of this subforum. Basically all you have there is people saying “I agree”, or “I disagree and this is why…”, then they procede to tell their version of events and maybe give a few links to other websites with information that is supposed to verify such information. The scientific community is also somewhat like this, except just much, much better.

That’s great Gobbo, I hope your having fun, and I hope that some of your views actually are actually useful (as I would vaguelly define the word ‘useful’) and I hope that you convince others to share them while failing to convince people of your less useful views. Now I don’t bother you and others like you on other forums besides this one, I have little interest in doing so, not that it would be of any use for the most part anyway.

Here on a philosophy forum such as this you may have noticed that there are people that have already had their fill of the ‘facts’ or ‘truth’ of the world and now wish to discuss the philosophical nature of such ‘facts’ or ‘truth’. I imagine there are many people who’d like to help you understand the array of such philosophies, but you seem very closed minded and that likely discourages them. I’ll certainly dicuss the nature of truth with you if no one esle will. Though anticipating your responce to that offer, may I ask why it is that your in a philosophy forum to begin with?

That is actually super easy to answer: I started coming here while working on my philosophy degree. When I graduated I realized that, for me at least, philosophy is something people do before moving onto the occult. It’s like academic safe occult.

You can only talk about these big names and their contributions for so long before you just grow tired of it and wonder why Plato was talking about Atlantis, or why Aristotle would allude to the mystery Arthenian cults.

I used to post some of my university essays. They didn’t really get responses because they reference people that (at the time at least) were not overly known outside of actual academia and hard to google. Plus they were not that great.

One mainline thing I enjoy talking about is Virginia Woolf’s take on Marx. Have you ever read A Room of One’s Own?

No I haven’t read that one, but iambiguous posts have been introducing me to her work, I’ve been thinking of getting one of her books.

So what’s your fascinations with cults? I’m sure for thousands of years people in all capacities have been getting toghether and making secrets and pretending they were more important than they really were. Then people all over, Plato and Aristotle included I guess, would allude to those cults in order to make their writings sound more mysterious.

That reminds me, and perhaps I shouldn’t tell you this, but I feel I must finally share this with someone who would understand.

On a dark night, perhaps one night too many after the moon should have reappeared in the sky, I came across a house unaccustomly lit for that time of night deep in the country where I traveled. I knocked at the door to ask directions, and was greated by a grim face that looked at me as if I should have know that it would have been better to knock at the door of Hell itself rather than there and then. Apparently mistaking me for someone else he beconded me inside. I entered and followed him down a starecase perhaps leading to the basement. But, what I cavernous basement it was, and what secrets I saw there that I can’t reveal. But, I do hint at such things I saw there and learned, in my writings, in my corespondences, such as these, and even in my shouts upon waking many a moonless night. It may behoove one to read carefully what I write, it contains knowledge that while well disguised may contain timeless secrets.

Now Gobbo, aren’t you tempted to read my back log of 900 posts?

Yes I am tempted. Stories like this are my weakness.

But I am working on an article that has my attention mostly. I think you should make some more veiled references and give me more hints.

Cancer rates in the UK, and 1 in 4 because people live longer here and they have health cover from cradle to the grave that enables each person to be correctly diagnosed. Cancer is a disease of old age.
In less civilised countries many people die of cancer without any diagnosis - being put down to “old age”, which is exactly the time when cancer is most likely to strike.
Additionally those dying now of cancer is the result of the legacy of generations of smoking.
Cancer is also a marker of opulence. Cancer is far more likely to strike people who eat enough or more than enough everyday, due the the natural production of Insulin Growth Factor which inhibits cell repair and stimulates cell replication. Cell replication is the moment when cancer mutations occur. Fasting can reduce the risk of cancer by placing the body in cell repair mode, which avoids unnecessary cell division. Getting a balance between eating enough for general health with periods of fasting is probably the best tool we have to avoid cancer. The word out now is concerned with ‘obesity’ as a high risk. But like so many other warnings it is simplified. It not so much obesity, but what people do to get to that state that matters.

Food additives in contrast have had to face more regulation and have been reduced rather than increased. So sorry there is not even a co-incidence.

I think this is a myth born of your imagination, and not supported by any statistics.

I didn’t write that. It’s from The Aeneid.

Gee yes, now you say - I thought Virgil was a bit early on the idea of the Internet - but he obviously had a time machine.
I knew it mush have been him. I’m seeing him next week, when he promises me that he’s gonna take me back to see some Gladiatorial fights - I can’t wait to see the retiarius.
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Damnit, he said he was going to spend all of next week guiding me through Hell. Is he double booking? I hope he wasn’t just planning on leaving me there.

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“Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers.”
― Socrates
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Nobody seems to know for sure, so ‘Socrates/Plato’

EDIT: ‘The quote is commonly attributed to Socrates, but apparently there is no conclusive evidence that he actually said it. The Library of Congress notes that this quote is “attributed to Socrates by Plato”…’

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“I see no hope for the future of our people if they are dependent on frivolous youth of today, for certainly all youth are reckless beyond words… When I was young, we were taught to be discreet and respectful of elders, but the present youth are exceedingly… [disrespectful] and impatient of restraint”

  • Hesiod, 8th century BC

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Obviously everything claimed to have been said by Socrates, is in fact written by either Plato, Aristophanes, or Xenophon, as Socrates was illiterate.