Genocide in Gaza? Part II

I don’t think that means anything. So which ‘fictional country’ do you inhabit?

How do you define ‘genocide’? In accordance with international law?

What a disingenuous way to ‘ask’. How ‘surprising’-- and after you ignored MY question. I am well aware of the actual meaining of the word–unlike you, apparently, I’m not illiterate. This site is beyond annoying. It’s impossible to navigate. Keeps giving me notifications that I can’t get rid of no matter what I do. Plus, it seems to be full of mental defectives who ask nonsensical non-questions like that. On top of it all you have to wait ten minutes to respond to anything. Perhaps you should ask yourself why Israel is always singled out for ‘special’ treatment. You MUST have noticed that. Perhaps you should ask yourself why Western wokist ;pink-and-blue-hairs’ started their ‘kill all Jews’ and ‘from the river to the sea’ mob-chanting ‘protests’ long before Israel had dropped a single bomb. What exactly were they ‘protesting’ about?? Why are people believing every bit of Hamas propaganda and insanely inflated figures along with the ridiculous pallywood videos, AI images, and photos from completely different conflicts and contexts that are being churned out, without question, while claiming that the actual, real-time footage, put on the interet by the ACTUAL Oct 7 sadistic psychopaths is called ‘fake’ and ‘made in Israeli film studios’? Ask yourself why Israel is the only country on earth for which there is a special name for anyone who doesn’t say it has no ‘right to exist’, or where this ‘right to exist’ comes from and who ‘bestows’ it. How is the ‘right to exist’ of a country measured eg, why does the US have a 'right to exist and not Israel? Why does Australia have a ‘right to exist’ and not Israel? Why does Egypt have a ‘right to exist’ and not Israel? Can you name any other country on the planet that doesn’t have a ‘right to exist’? What do you think plasticinians and their ‘useful idiots’ mean when they chant ‘from the river to the sea’? How do you think they would implement that in a practical sense?

These are questions you need to ask yourself. It’s called research and critical thinking.

Sometimes humans do something so unspeakably evil to each other, so unimaginable in its depravity and sadism (even by human standards) that it is remembered for centuries as a measure for how disgusting and evil humans can be. Oct 7 will be one of those, along with the reaction of the so-called ‘civilised’ world to it. In a few years time, when all the Jew-haters have slithered back under their rocks and are no longer ‘fashionable’ and the world takes on the facade of righteous indignation the way it did after the Holocaust, then at least we will have mountains of evidence to tell us exactly who was on ‘the wrong side of history’. ‘Caring and compassion’ has never been part of the equation for the woke. The aim has always been to create chaos and bring down Western democracies (with of course ‘them’ taking the reins of power in whatever hellish replacement we end up with). It does appear to be succeeding in this. I understand the UK is bringing in ‘anti-misogyny’ laws to protect men and silence women. ‘‘One jigsaw piece at a time’’…

In 1948, the United Nations Genocide Convention defined genocide as any of five “acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group”. These five acts were: killing members of the group, causing them serious bodily or mental harm, imposing living conditions intended to destroy the group, preventing births, and forcibly transferring children out of the group. Victims are targeted because of their real or perceived membership of a group, not randomly.

In 1948, the United Nations Genocide Convention defined genocide as any of five “acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group”. These five acts were: killing members of the group, causing them serious bodily or mental harm, imposing living conditions intended to destroy the group, preventing births, and forcibly transferring children out of the group. Victims are targeted because of their real or perceived membership of a group, not randomly.

Argument against alleged genocide (Wikipedia): Analysis of the merits

David Scheffer, who served as the first United States Ambassador-at-Large for War Crimes Issues, criticized South Africa’s case for what he called a “complete lack of recognition… that Israel is at war,” and argued that any Palestinian civilian deaths are the result of a military action against an enemy which Israel has “a justifiable right to attack in self-defense,” rather than genocidal intent. Scheffer said that in a military and responsorial context of events since the October 7 attack, coupled with Israel’s evacuation of Gazan civilians and its humanitarian aid efforts, would make it “clearly a line too far to try to argue that it is Israel that actually has the intent to commit genocide when Israel is responding to a genocidal act in order to prevent further genocide against Israel.”[130]

Genocide, yea or nay?

Are you asking if genocide of the aged, enwombed, invalid, chronically infirm, economically disadvantaged, and/or politically dissident currently happening? Are you asking does the current example count as it? Are you asking if someone is in favor of it? If you’re talking about the abortion industry and the “global public health” handling of the Covid pandemic, the answer is yes. If you’re talking about routing out terrorists who would be the agents of genocide if given the chance, the answer is no, it is not. If you’re asking if we’re standing on the precipice of genocide when it comes to places like Ukraine, Taiwan, and Israel if the powers opposing them are left unchecked, the answer is absolutely yes. If not genocide, then definitely still mass murder. If folks weren’t in favor of it, it wouldn’t have happened or be happening. The next pandemic event wouldn’t be in process, this time with lessons learned when we were global guinea pigs.

Let’s say “hell no” this time and see what happens.

Or sure, let the terrorists win.

Some people are psychopathic apologists for power, sick-ophantic obedience worshippers of state tyranny. They don’t care about things like genocide, mass murder, war crimes. Their only regret is probably that they can’t join in on the killing too.

Far too many in the west have become like this, gaslit and psychologically manipulated with all sorts of brainwashing vectors until they fall in line like good little cows. Walking placidly to slaughter, contentedly burping and chirping to themselves about how it’s some other group that’s being killed so there’s nothing to worry about.

You think those inflicting the genocide see you as any better than they see the Palestinians? Guess again. They have even more contempt for you, your history and your culture. Whereas they use fast, kinetic means to destroy those they hate over there, they use more subtle, gradual soft kill types of approaches to kill those they hate over here (in the west).

…this unwrites everything else you said.

I have pulled back from writing in forums because this is very true. We are living in a world in which polarisation is being driven by big money, and people are falling for it. I didn’t understand it at first, but spreading agitation is the best way to weaken the population so that they don’t realise who has been robbing them and disabling the possibility of making it better for everybody. The more divided people are, the better it is for those whose wealth increases exponentially.

The ability to feel spontaneous compassion, which would lead to demands to stop the killing, is undermined by people telling you that we are the good guys, claiming that they and we are being attacked. In contrast, it is them who are attacking, and the so-called “terrorists” are reacting. Yes, that makes the world dangerous for everybody, but if we fail to see the cause and effect, we are caught up in a maelstrom of whatabouterism. That is why they buy up the media, so you are continually told the corporate version of history.

People on the ground tell a different story, which is why they have increasingly become targets. Israel has killed more journalists in a relatively short time than has ever been achieved before. Autocratic regimes are renowned for it, but the “free” West? So, when you read something about conflicts in the world, ask yourself who owns the media and who profits from what is happening. There, you’ll find the culprits.

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Israel murdering civilians, children, journalists, even their own hostages. And also look into their AI kill system Lavender. A big part of this genocide is the battlefield testing and deploying of new military technologies.

The difference is huge. Hamas/Hezbollah (Iran) is not unarmed, and they hide amongst the unarmed Palestinians like a bunch of freaking cockroaches.

The question was about shooting unarmed civilians, which the IDF have documented. You can’t even acknowledge that, but hold on to your worship of power.

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“Hamas/Hezbollah (Iran) is not unarmed”

But the Palestinian civilians dying as collateral damage are not armed.

“and they hide amongst the unarmed Palestinians like a bunch of freaking cockroaches.”

When a school of kids get blown up, who’s fault is it… the people storing munitions in the school, or the people who shot a missle at the school?

This is a real easy one.

Duddint matter if i build a ICBM in the middle of the goddamn hospital. That’s my business. Nobody’s makin u drop a bomb on that hospital but u.

And really Hamas should be commended for using civilian buildings for military operations becuz that acts to dissuade the IDF from attacking that spot (in theory anyway… didn’t work in practice as we can see).

When u don’t have full military strength and size, u do strategic shit like that to gain an advantage. IDF would do the same if they amounted only to a paramilitary group of soldiers not a fraction of the size or capability of the enemy. They’d make Israeli bases in schools and hospitals and all that shit too.

Philosophers. Can’t live with ‘em. Pass the Grape Nuts.

If you shoot a missile at a school knowing there are children there, is your fault. It doesn’t matter if there also happen to be “muh terrorists” there too. It is still a war crime.

Sort of like the US nuking civilian targets in Japan near the end of WW2. Sure they can always come up with some rationalization for it, “muh speeds the end of teh war” or whatever they please. Doesn’t matter.

What does matter:

you just deliberately murdered civilians. Including and especially… children.

Let that sink in. You evil fucker.

Gaslighting is a kind of terrorism. That’s the only thing that helps terrorists justify hiding in between children.

If you don’t nuke it in the bud (because you already let it spread by not nipping it) it will spread even worse.

The more you let it spread, the more what results is completely on you.

“Gaslighting is a kind of terrorism. That’s the only thing that helps terrorists justify hiding in between children.”

What justifies ‘terrorists hiding among childrens’ is the strategic advantage it gives them against an enemy that might withold an attack on account of that, i.e., the IDF may not want to blow up the childrens… so they don’t drop the bombz.

“If you don’t nuke it in the bud (because you already let it spread by not nipping it) it will spread even worse”

U couldn’t possibly appreciate the irony of hearing someone who endorses the bible, the source of both religions involved in this war, say something like that… nor understand just how right u are about ‘not nipping a problem in the bud’ before it’s too late.

It may very well be capitalism and monotheism that destroys the world just yet… but i don’t know and won’t be around to rub it in if it does. I was born prehumously, and that pisses me off.

You sure?