Yes unnecessary to those who see it is unnecessary, but so necessary to those who don’t. And argument rarely changes minds. ILP has proven that over and over.
If you’re not seeing it or at least understanding it from the perspective of all the actual players, then you are no different than the players who are not inclusive of all players.
You have to take into account that you are dealing with imperfect humans regardless what principles they think they are defending.
Both/all sides are capable of handling it poorly. They are both/all capable of using their skills to handle it better.
They have to be held responsible, and you have to hold yourself responsible, to respect the consent of all stakeholders.
Tell me what was wrong with the idea I presented. Tell me what your better idea is.
I have presented evidence from first hand witnesses to the atrocities on the ground. Have you?
You want to build a wall. Where have I heard that “solution” before? Okay. Go ahead.
Good fences make good neighbors. Good boundaries respect consent. If someone has a problem with your boundaries, make them stronger while still respecting theirs the way you expect yours to be respected. They will follow suit only if you do that, and then they will do the same for others.
If your boundaries do not respect the consent of others, you will provide fuel to your enemies that will remove all of your boundaries.
I told you to go ahead. What are you waiting for? Build yer wall.
If you can’t make it happen, what is the point of talking about it?
Okay. Make it happen.
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Then the ‘Darwin Awards’ comes to mind, here… annihilating each other out of existence. Bravo! 
I’m not sure what you mean in this context.
What a dolt.
Netanyahu & the U.S. need to stop fistbumping terrorists & back Abbas against Hamas/Iran on the down low.
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smh
Side note: Is Eqypt still doing this?
while “proactively” building this:
I know this sounds crazy, but it’s better than mutually assured destruction. What if we do like this big group therapy session where every time a weapon is used, we do that weird sound wave thingy that makes people shut up because they’re just so stunned… Not set to “lethal” …just set to “shut up”.
Once everything is quiet and people are listening, we pipe in on loudspeakers some positive affirmations that remind everyone of the goals they all share in common and the consequences that will come from the outside world if they don’t learn to get along and work out their differences like peaceful adults.
I really feel like this big group therapy session kind of needs to be top-down. Start with the terrorists that are controlling everything. Russia, China, and Iran.
As for the U.S., I already said what I had to say.
P. S. Epstein didn’t kill himself.
Off topic
Agreed. I don’t mind ignorance when it is well-meaning, but this is something else entirely.
It’s not that I don’t believe people deserve redemption and a second, third, fourth chance, as many as it takes. They do. But my personal “gives a shit” reservoir is seriously dry after years, decades, of trying to un-stupidify people without success. Maybe I just suck at convincing people, or maybe they really are that insane. Doesn’t matter much whichever it is, the result is the same.
They just don’t want to read mein kempf, do they Humanize?
It would be a far greater injustice for me to ignore you here, so I will at least say this.
You are a spoiled child. Or are acting like one. Feel free to keep deceiving, if that is what you are doing. I am not really capable of caring anymore past this point and that’s not entirely on you but it is still a fact.
Edit: apparently I can’t post more than once in 10 minutes here, so the following edit will serve as my next post anyway:
I realize that’s unfair, but speaking to someone who laughs about the ritualistic ethnic-religious slaughter of women and children en mass, perhaps ‘fairness’ isn’t something you are quite able to conceptualize anyway.
Double-edit, after what you just posted:
Get back to me when you grow a fucking soul.
Triple-edit: Israel has revealed itself to the entire world now. There are no unknowns, no questions left, no fences to sit on. America has obviously done the same already, long ago.
Those who stand on nothing but their own egos and the narcissistic self-worship of defence mechanisms within the growing fields of psychomanipulative mass media warfare brainwashing as ideological propagandistic soul-harvesting, have also revealed themselves for all to see. The lines are easily drawn, but then again weren’t they always.
I recall having similar ‘discussions’ with Fixed and his own zionist Trump-loving denialisms right before I cut ties with BTL. You seem to have become a little embodied copy of him in this way, he must have really influenced you. Although I believe he has grown and seen through this veil of errors by now, hopefully anyway. Fixed has a powerful soul. So do you, if you can manage to break out into your own orbit without shitting yourself in the process.
Hamanize, I can quote where you told me to read mein kempf.
I mean it was recent. You were like “you’re gonna love it, it’s a great book!”
It decidedly is relevant here.
Who in ilp is carrying the anti Israel flag?
The dude that peddles mein kempf.
I mean it won’t give felix there pause. But it should.
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Hahahahaha ah yes, the soulless mein kempf haters.
Us evil ones.
Joker.