Genocide in Gaza?

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Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who rarely comments on deadly strikes in Gaza, released a videotaped statement on Tuesday in which he appeared to acknowledge that the Israeli military was responsible. Israel launched an investigation into the circumstances surrounding the strikes.

“Unfortunately, in the last day there was a tragic case of our forces unintentionally hitting innocent people in the Gaza Strip,” Mr. Netanyahu said. “It happens in war, we are fully examining this, we are in contact with the governments and we will do everything so that this thing does not happen again.”

The missiles killed two British volunteers and one American. That’s the only reason Netanyahu is speaking to it. There’s a move on in Britain calling for withdrawal support for Israel.

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Lol oh yeah, those are the quotes of an unhinged madman indiscriminately slaughtering whatever has a heartbeat.

Sounds more like you have an idea, a thought, of a genocide, and are trying very hard to fit little pieces into that idea.

Ideas that are inserted prior to, rather than after the facts that are studied, tend to be inserted via propaganda.

Such as like the outed anti Israel nazi that has been enthusiastically supporting you is likely trained to do. Socialism is notorious for it, the national socialists even had a ministry literally called Propaganda Ministry, headed by that famous “lie 100 times” guy.

The reason they effect this propaganda is, precicely, to try to affect things like international support.

Fueled by idiots like you who just want to feel they are super righteous and don’t give a fuck about reality or people or anything.

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You wear your cynicism like armor.

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Clarity of mind always appears as cynicism to the fanatic.

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Fanatically compassionate. Fancy calling that derogatory names. Talk about perverse!

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We appreciate your passion, Bob.

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A lot of Israelis hold Netanyahu personally responsible for failing to anticipate the Hamas attack which Israel says killed 1,200 people. Israel’s military response has now killed more than 32,000 people in Gaza, mostly women and children, according to the health ministry.

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Thanks RRG.

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By the way, I know this is obvious, but I will state it anyway, because, why not? Sometimes the obvious needs stating.

What deaths may have been caused by Hamas were caused with the intention of causing death. What deaths may have been caused by the Israeli military were caused with the intention of securing a military situation, and guaranteeing the safety of Israeli citizens, the only prerogative of the Israeli military, its only reason for being.

The Israeli military knows very well that those murders were conducted precisely to provoke a reaction from Israel, and inflame it into propaganda for the idiot “fanatically compassionates” of the world. But because the task of the Israely military is to guarantee the safety of Israelis, and to do this it had to react to the murders, it reacted anyway.

While Hamas struck, people chanted “death to Israel.”

When Israel struck back, people chanted “peace with Palestine.”

Does it make a difference?

Not if you are a socialist fanatic, with no care for anything but your own free of charge feeling of self righteous ecstasy.

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You had me until the word socialist, if the socialists are self-governed and described by Anarchism A - which is why you should not just throw that word (socialist) around. It means different things to different people, so not everyone would want to be described by that word, and the ones who would want to be described by it don’t mean the same thing you do when you say it.

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True

Partially true

Partially true

What people? How many? What percentage of the population? How many women and children among them?

Same questions as in previous response.

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Socialism is a term that describes something specific, not a mask one chooses to wear or not.

Because socialism is idiotic, the results of socialist experiments have yelled idiocy, and it is thus understandable that socialists want to dissociate from the term.

I will not let them. Socialist scum.

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response to felix in +/- 10 mins.

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Before we take apart this gnarled knot you have woven, let’s take a step back and look at something very simple:

In what world where the answer to any of these is either true or partially true is a levelled accusation of “genocide” not either malicious propaganda or mindless parroting of malicious propaganda?

Now, to the specifics.

What is incomplete about it?

What is incomplete about it?

Many. Sadly, many of them women and children.

Human shield doesn’t just mean you hold them in front of you at gunpoint. It means you weaponize them through propaganda, much like you have been weaponized to say something as grave as “genocide” for a situation which, the more you describe and the more you address, the more it appears as people doing the best they can to do as little damage as possible while they protect themselves.

The culprits, of course, can never be these people, placed in an impossible situation. We have to ask, what led them to yell this, who put those thoughts there, how, and why.

Basically every single citizen of Israel, who detests this situation and wants to make a deal with Palestine, Saudi Arabioa and others which can allow them all to live in peace and harmony while pursuing very promising avenues for the quick growth in wealth, prosperity and wellbeing of all involved.

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You are choosing to wear a “not a socialist“ mask and make everyone you disagree with wear a “socialist” mask — without ever defining that “specific thing” you’re even talking about. Why throw the word around?

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Because he is a child. No more and no less.

God knows I tried to educate him. But every parent knows, at some point you just accept a lack of responsibility. They will do whatever it is they do. Fucking retards be like.

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Yes, well, I have provided extensive argumentation and elaboration for my positions, you are limiting yourself to “I wanna be a socialist but not be called one.”

I don’t make anyone do anything.

I just know that honesty is the first thing socialists throw out the window. Like hamanize there when he said “so you are just being dishonest like me.” This is of course logical in a fanatical system where the only goal is conscription and victory, Good vs Evil, what is a lie at the end of the day. What is truth, really.

That is why they make such excellent propagandists. No shame and total commitment.

But, on the other hand, they are imbiciles committed to an imbicilic system. So all their work is essencially undone. The only socialist that is safe is the one that has finally taken hold of a state and holds the guns. At that point, they rarely bother to pretend anymore.

In Palestine, it’s “the Jews are evil and are keeping you down,” simultaneously “no you can’t have legal documents and we are not helping you in any way, also take these guns and aggravate them.”

Israel be like “stop fucking shooting we just wanna give you money.” But Israel won’t say “you are Good and we are Good and together we will vanquish Evil, destroy it forever.” They lack the dishonesty.

Still, nobody likes to be poor. People are willing less and less to deal with the socialist Disneyland fantasy and just want a life. Unlike most here, I would bet money felix as an example, I have had extensive friendships with Palestinians, but also Syrians, Lebanese. The first two always have that death to Israel talk, but just under the surface you can feel it. Feel that they are tired of it. And only one side is telling them “keep sacrificing yourself your family and everything you hold dear.”

They’ll hang on to the anger for a few generations. But if the rational people get the ball and start the good living, they will go with it. They will grumble and go with it and their grandchildren will have Israeli wives.

Count on it.

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This whole hidden reply thing is actually really nice. I might have to keep this going past a week.

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By the way, one good way to tell that this hatred and intransigence is the product of ideology and not actual grievances, consider that Israel was founded on the heels of an actual massive genocide, seen mass murder terrorist attacks on their soil and abroad, by insignificant cells to the actual Iranian government, attrocities that would make you loose the ability to even cry, is that they themselves have none of this. None of this vindiction, none of this anger or agenda of destruction. They just want to settle borders and establish civic harmony once and for all, in a land that finally, after literal millenia of genocidal persecution from all quarters, they have the guns to defend.

Defend it, Israel.

The silent majority is with you.

Fuck yeah, Viva Israel.

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Keep in mind that we are dependent upon others for the facts of the situation in Gaza. That’s why included the reports of first hand witnesses as the basis of this thread. Your statements were true regarding Israel’s right to defend itself against Hamas a terrorist organization with a genocidal intent against Israel. But, on the basis of our common humanity, Israel does not have the right to indiscriminate killing of civilians, forcing 85% of Palestinians in Gaza to flee from their homes, denying food supplies to the point that children are starving, denying medical care and targeting food lines and international aid workers.

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If you do not think what Israel is doing in not genocide then you are just not paying attention.
There is a massive amount of self delusion and head burying on this issue; mainly from the right wing, and Jews.
But my Jewish friends are horrified by the events unfolding.
There is a massive open conspiracy in the Western media with obsessive question asking" do you condemn the attacks of Oct 6th", but who is asking about the rockets srikes earlier in the year from Isreal? What about the thousands of prisoners held without charge in from the West Bank?
If you think Israel has the right to defend itself, ask your self when did BULLDOZERS become defensive weapons. When did hungry men holding bags of flour become a threat. What about the 200+ schools precision bombed? Hospitals levelled to the ground? Tell about why it is necessary to target Journalists, Aid Workers and torture doctors? When did cutting off water and energy become legal strategies in war?

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