Hi please:
Call the following “Axiom”, as we can both agree on it:
[AXIOM START] Spirit of Truth means, breath of Truth, or some kind of kinetic, active form of Truth.
This is linked to keeping Jesus’s commandments i.e. staying with his religion. [AXIOM END]
- Please tell me how you infer Spirit of Truth to be a new personage, in light of Axiom ^^^
- Also please explain how standard Xtian thought would infer Holy Ghost to be a new personage, called Advocate.
- John 14:16 appears to be contradicted by John 14:17, because v. 16 explains Advocate is “another”, implying Jesus is the first. v. 17 says no, Advocate is Spirit of Truth, and Spirit of Truth is already here!. Please explain how v. 17 doesn’t contradict v. 16? It seems to me that v. 17 was an after-edit, and symptomatic of a wider desire to dismiss the coming “another Advocate” as the Holy Ghost / Spirit of Truth, with a vague undefined mandate. It seems ad hoc and a way to put people to sleep and make them stop hoping for another Prophet, which appears to be what “another Advocate” really means. And so, when the final, everlasting Prophet did arrive, many Christians today reject him, and instead say Advocate was just Holy Ghost / Spirit of Truth, with a role of, well, shrugs, nothing clear, just, dunno. And that we must worship a man as God, and he will return as God to rule the world as King, which thus sets the scene for Christians to fall in line with Antichrist when he comes, because he is a man that will emerge as a tyrannical ruler, then claim to be final prophet, Messiah and then claim to be God. John 14:17 seems to be one of several edits that funnel Xtians into this damning end to Xtianity.
John 14:15 has Jesus telling people to keep his religion. [By the way, this apparently predicts the mega derailment of Christianity, into Trinitarianism, John 14:15 was clearly telling Christians to watch out for this and if you do keep faith in Jesus as only Messiah, not God, then you will be able to recognise the Advocate when he comes because Muhammad will confirm that Jesus is Messiah born of Virgin who ascended to Heaven and shall return to kill a false messiah who claims to be God - that is the only way John 14:15 makes sense to me]
John 14:16 - Jesus asks God to send another Advocate / Helper / Comfrorter / Intercessor / Counseller / Strengthener. “Another” is invariably the word used. This rules out the Holy Ghost being the Advocate. It implies another one, as per some prior example. The prior example would, in absence of another person being referenced, be Jesus himself. Meaning, another prophet.
This Advocate will remain. That could be inferred to mean finality - a final prophet.
John 14:17 explains that this Advocate / Helper is the Spirit of Truth. Interestingly, the word l was hoping for, popped up at me in the Berean Annotated Bible: the “Pneuma” of Truth. That is, the breath of Truth. The speaker of Truth.
John 14:17 however ends by saying this Spirit of Truth is already with them, and will be in them.
This 100% seems to be an edit, a deflection, a red herring. John 14:16 clearly has the Advocate as being a new one, after the pattern of one existing. I.e. a new prophet after Jesus. Yet John 14:17 contradicts John 14:16 and says he was always there, he’s with you now, he’s inside you, don’t worry about nothing, nothing to see here, keep calm and carry on. Don’t wait for no more prophets anyhoo!
Please now answer all my numbered questions.