Get solid explanations for sayings attributed to Jesus

Changing a mind that has been brainwashed or subjected to heavy psychological manipulation is a long, long process.

Direct confrontation will not work, neither will answers to your silly questions.

Have you ever considered what would happen to you in your community if you decided to reject all this manipulation?

Do you even have a choice?

Please do not be so insolent. And yes l remember the last time you got catty with me, saying religion isn’t about putting people down (just because l was being too chatty with Victor, you got jelly so phrased it as me putting her down and you protecting her). I checked your profile and saw a link and that link was you traducing a greek woman and her daughter in a thread about posting your own personal pic. You just posted a stranger’s family pics because they had converted to Islam. To ridicule them. You are horrible.

I only want to discuss the thread topic, and further: this topic has run its course as the OP is not honouring his challenge.

As you are now doing.
I am curious, here is your opportunity to be honest and straighfoward.
Just don’t weasel out of it. I will wait.

Have you ever considered what would happen to you in your community if you decided to reject all this manipulation?

Do you even have a choice?

If you want Q&A (you haven’t asked me anything) then start with the Qs l gave on this thread.

Or better: start by apologising for saying l curse Jews and Christians and am primitive and have a “look” in my eyes which you have never seen, on the other thread,

OK. Your type does not apologise. I get this. I don’t mind. So: start with the Qs l gave on this thread.

What are you talking about?

Make it quick as l want to leave.

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Such a fucking coward and a waste of time and effort.
I have zero respect for your type.

What a sad sack you are!

That’s the problem with loving God without fearing him. God-fearing used to be a virtue.

You are some new fangled type of Xtian, possibly a Charistmatic. All love and no fear.

I leave you now. This is bad quality discussion.

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Never answered my questions.
It is always “I leave you now”, when confronted with some truths.
I will answer for you…
A person living in a society governed by Islamic law who refuses to believe in Allah—or formally abandons Islam—is considered an apostate, known in Arabic as murtadd . This is categorized as one of the most serious sins and, under traditional, classical Islamic jurisprudence (fiqh),

it is regarded as a severe crime punishable by death

There’s a reason the Bible used to be only in Latin and the province of priests.

Is this the thread where the Muslims and Christians are having it out? If so, can you pause it for a second so I can get a coke and some milk duds? I’ll be right back.

Actually it’s supposed to be finding the correct interpretations of Jesus quotes from the Gospels. But the Abrahamically religious like it more spicy.

Nobody said anything about finding. The gentleman simply said he would provide them lol.

It’s a fairly new thing (last 20 years or so), finding some new age life philosophy from the Bible. Jesus the guru.

It used to be, including for all protestants, that the Bible was solely interesting, and Jesus only important, insofar as they referred to God.

Well, it’s a strand of protestantism (so called “atheism”) that always existed (Puritans being the main champions), but it used to be fringe.

You’re right [acknowledging not informing]. An odd philosophy forum thread. I could see proposing some interpretations which would then lead to discussion.

It’s pointless. The “new testament” is mostly gibberish.

Its main value was as a mystical Latin text for priests to recite, and certain smuggled bits of Old Religion.

But that’s the reason why only nuts are attracted to it, and all discussions about it are nutty.

Nope, l actually am happy just sticking to critiquing pseudoepigraphical Apostolic accounts of Christ.

Nobody else on this thread is.

The original manuscripts of the Bible were written in Hebrew and Aramaic (Old Testament) and Greek (New Testament).

The Latin Role (Vulgate) was used for centuries, it was not the original text, but a translation. It is the historic, official Latin translation of the Bible for the Roman Catholic Church.

In the gospel of Brocephus it is said when the big man returns to sort the world out, his rage will be so fearsome that he will appear as a terrifying monsta, and the sheep will mistake him, curse and bleat at him and call him the devil.