I’ve heard that what a republican stood for has drastically changed, that both parties have become polarized. Here’s what Glenn Beck says a conservative should stand for. Which parts do you disagree with?
I disagree with :“A conservative believes that each of us has a duty to take care of our neighbors. It was private individuals, companies and congregations that sent water, blankets and supplies to New Orleans far before the government ever set foot there.”
there is no duty
and
“A conservative believes that a child’s education is the responsibility of the parents, not the government.”
moral education perhaps…
-Imp
I agree. Do you think, however, New Orleans would have been better off without FEMA? It seems less people would help if they think the government is taking care of it.
This one I’m on the fence about. I’ve heard plenty of teachers complain about the government’s rules about education, how it restricts teachers’ creativity, and makes it harder to reach all kids. But then again, I wouldn’t want fundy Christians to be creating the curriculum, because intelligent design would be taught in science class.
- fema did their job in new orleans.
democrats don’t give as much to charity - they find salvation through feeding the leviathan.
- science class… one theory -evolution, versus another theory - intelligent design (watchmaker)
theory or theory? neither is truth.
it is the parent’s responsibility to teach right and wrong, the state’s responsibility to teach what is legal
-Imp
d0rkyd00d:I’ve heard that what a republican stood for has drastically changed, that both parties have become polarized. Here’s what Glenn Beck says a conservative should stand for. Which parts do you disagree with?
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A conservative believes that our inalienable rights do not include housing, healthcare or Hummers.
K: housing is a fundamental right as is health care. Every person has the right to the basics which includes
food, shelter, education AND healthcare. Those are the bare minimums of life.
A conservative believes in personal responsibility and accepts the consequences for his or her words and actions.
K: like george bush has accepted any personal responsibility for ANYTHING he has done in 7 years.
This is part of the big lie of conservatives, they don’t take any responsibility and yet expect others to take
personal responsibility.
A conservative believes that real compassion can’t be found in any government program.
K:IN 7 years of the “compassionate conservative” has the village idiot shown any “real” compassion
toward anybody making under 250,000 a year?
A conservative believes that each of us has a duty to take care of our neighbors. It was private individuals, companies and congregations that sent water, blankets and supplies to New Orleans far before the government ever set foot there.
K: because of the village idiot inept leadership that turned one of the best run
government agencies, FEMA, into one of the worst.
A conservative believes that family is the cornerstone of our society and that people have a right to manage their family any way they see fit, so long as it’s not criminal. We are far more attuned to our family’s needs than some faceless, soulless government program.
K: more of the big lie. the family as in homosexual family? the fight against gay marriage proves this is a lie and allowing
family decisions such as contraception and abortion? Conservatives love big government when it stops those items.
A conservative believes that people have a right to worship the God of their understanding. We also believe that people do not have the right to jam their version of God (or no God) down anybody else’s throat.
K: The “Moral Majority” which is the religious right wing has been trying to cram its ideology downs America’s throat for 25 years
since Ronald rayguns administration.
A conservative believes that people go to the movies to be entertained and to church to be preached to, not the other way around.
K: and what right do they have to tell us what kind of movies we should have?
Movies play all kinds of roles in our lives including preaching, “Wall Street” and the “China syndrome”
are two examples.
A conservative believes that debt creates unhealthy relationships. Everyone, from the government on down, should live within their means and strive for financial independence.
K: yah right, Raygun and bush senior created huge debt which the democrat clinton reduced and which the village idiot
turned into the largest debt/deficit in the history of the world
A conservative believes that a child’s education is the responsibility of the parents, not the government.
K: education is the responsibility of the society, pure and simple. We educate because we want the children
to carry on values we consider important and if everybody is taught differently, then how do they learn
the values we consider important? Society functions by having one generation teaching the next generation
which in turns teaches the next generation and so on. The best method of teaching is what we have.
A conservative believes that every human being has a right to life, from conception to death.
K: another big lie. conservatives love you until you are born, then its see ya later. Worldwide over
7000 children die from starvation every single day. That is not to mention the millions that suffer
from malnutrition, lack of drinking water, lack of proper hygiene, inadequate medical care.
We could save 10,000 children a year in Africa simply by an investment of less then 1 billion dollars by
buying covers that protects children from mosquitoes that carry malaria. 1 billion dollars which is less then
what we spend in Iraq for one week, ONE WEEK.
A conservative believes in the smallest government you can get without anarchy. We know our history: The larger a government gets, the harder it will fall.
K: conservatives know history is another big lie. conservatives don’t know shit. the last 7 years of conservative rule has shown that.
The biggest disaster in this nations history has been the last 7 years of conservative rule, from Katrina to Iraq to the largest debt in history
it will take decades to recover from the worst president in American history and quite possibly the worst president in the history of the world.
This shows us the complete bankruptcy of the conservative movement that they consider the village idiot a success.
I dare you to tell me 5 successes of the village idiot years and in fact I can’t tell you one.
Kropotkin
Peter, I think most of the bullet points in the article are criticizing the current “Republicans,” saying they are actually doing the exact opposite of what a Republican is supposed to stand for. In other words, the last seven years have been through an administration that claims to be conservative, but does the exact opposite of what it says. I probably should’ve included the link that gives the points context. 
I don’t see what conservativism has to do with defining when life begins. It, and other beliefs like it, seem like an ad hoc additions to an otherwise coherent philosophy. And what if I want to go to a movie to be preached to? Movies can be a great way to educate, look at Inconvenient Truth: whatever your opinion of the movie or its content, it’s hard to deny that it changed a lot of minds.
If dismantling government is the aim, having the “smallest government you can get without anarchy”, every regulation that exists would have to be the minimum before the onset of anarchy.
Also, an aside, the proviso “so long as it’s not criminal” entails a lot of wiggle room. Up until recently, sodomy was criminal. Communism was essentially criminal in the 50s. What does “criminal” mean during the process of dismantling as many government regulations as possible?
The labels are soooo misleading. You can’t espouse a consevative view on anything without being labeled with the whole package. The same for the liberal. The labels are automatically assumed to portray the positions of extremism. But beyond the labeling - which Beck does with regularity, it is the polarizing and entrenchment of perspectives that is the real legacy of the last decade. Fed by MSN/NBC on one side, and Fux News on the other, the poor bastard trying to find middleground doesn’t stand a chance.
So save yourself loads of time and ‘Oswald’ both Obama and the chip man.
Why? There are dozens of pedantic bullshit artists waiting in line…