🇬 Google's Larry Page: "AI superior to the human species" (Techno Eugenics)

[Jakob]

@HumAnIze

Which is their own way of trying to escape themselves, since only a profoundly self-hating entity could self-value like that.

Yes. Excellent post.
They are the convenient slaves to the actual devil who cant show his face but must operate in the dark behind acronyms.

As for the apocalypse, if it exists it is upon us now and it is a gradual thing, as it means nothing but the awakening of a substatial portion of being to the fact of the devil. HumAnIze says that no one cares, that is not precisely true, it is just the case that virtually no one has both both the courage and the capacity to address it. That is the prerogative of philosophy. (as opposed to collecting free income and leisurely speculating)

[HumAnIze]

Yes, this awakening to the fact of evil as you are touching on, I can see what you mean referencing this to the apocalypse. Those who do not believe in the existence of evil and have no spiritual sensitivity, will simply ignore this and mock it. That is good for them, well at least it means they are still in the dark, children of a wider world they remain unaware about. Their time of awakened understanding will come, perhaps in part because of ‘apocalyptic’ events unfolding. Certainly these are already here, and seem to be intensifying in a stair step pattern… a step up, then a pause and renormalization, then another sudden step up, then another little while to let everyone adjust to the new normal getting a little comfortable finally and then again, bam another sudden step up.

Those who are aware will recognize the methodology of trauma-based mind control in that. Indeed, we are all victims of deliberate psychic and informational attacks. MKultra was probably just a testing ground for what is now being perfected on the entire planet via the advanced EM and psychic-resonance technologies all around us.

Courage is what is missing, I agree. Many people can sense and even conceptually recognize some of what is going on, but the sheer magnitude of it is overwhelming and scary. This is one way evil hides in our world, by forcing upon its practitioners and institutions acts of such profound barbarity and pure evil that the average person simply cannot process the thought of it. It remains hidden in plain sight this way.

As the old Greeks said, if you want to know the truth, find out what everyone else is not talking about. If you want to know who your masters are, find out who you are not allowed to criticize.

“Where is the man who has forgotten words, that I might speak with him?” I can’t remember who said that. Good line though.

@denniskane

see that Google employs Ray Kurzweil (as “AI Visionary” or WTF title they actually gave him). I can only think of Kurzweil in terms of being a writer of permanently-off-the-deep-end Sci-Fi. I feel that one of Google’s purposes is to serve as a kind of asylum for this specific version of autistic thinking;

Sure these transhumanists are just silly writers, ok. I am sure a trillion dollar DARPA-DoD controlled megacorporation like Google employs random silly writers just to have them around for fun. Lol.

As if these “masters of the universe” types so-called are just innocent hard working engineers trying to solve basic problems to improve the world around them. Nothing to see here, no deeper motives or direction, no hidden agendas. Nothing like the Macy Conferences ever occurred, right? You sound like a normie-brand coincidence theorist when you write in that direction. Then again I don’t know you that well yet and I am trying to not make assumptions.

[MagsJ (Surya Loka)]

@10x

@MagsJ

The fact that they are already naming it an AI species shows an intent.

What do you mean?

It might just be a reflection of the dogmatic thinking on the side of ‘eugenics’ believers.

Larry Page is an active believer in genetic determinism, evident from his projects such as genetic testing venture 23andme.

The belief in genetic determinism results in the idea of a ‘superior genetic state’ and a ‘moral obligation’ to achieve such a state, which results in an ideology of which history has revealed what it is capable of.

“Superior AI species” could be an extension of eugenic thinking.

A recent Stanford study revealed that the genetic determinism related ideas might do harm for otherwise healthy individuals.

Learning one’s genetic risk changes physiology independent of actual genetic risk
In an interesting twist to the enduring nature vs. nurture debate, a new study from Stanford University finds that just thinking you’re prone to a given outcome may trump both nature and nurture. In fact, simply believing a physical reality about yourself can actually nudge the body in that direction—sometimes even more than actually being prone to the reality.

Learning one’s genetic risk changes physiology independent of actual genetic risk | Nature Human Behaviour

This study indicates that the genetic determinism related beliefs and ideas could be invalid.

@MagsJ

They cannot control AI, but they want to control people? …so better to concentrate on the [unpredictable] former, and use modern cyber-security capabilities to keep the former in check.

…or is that an impossibility? …and if so, why so?

It is important to consider the concept ‘dogma’ in this context. The idea that quantum errors are actual errors for example.

My case “Neutrinos does not exist” on cosmicphilosophy.org reveals that there are profound dogmatic errors that underlay the development of quantum computing.

As a result, what might happen is a situation of a fundamental lack of control, due to the inability to have made wise choices in the first place.

In my opinion, human tech will likely not mean anything in the face of ‘alive tech’ that fundamentally masters any tech that a human ever has produced, and much beyond that scope of potential.

Quantum computing by definition is to break any existing encryption which is the foundation of modern cybersecurity, so it is already known that with quantum computing, today’s human security will be broken.

A fundamental lack of control of Larry Page’s “superior AI species” are to be added to a fundamentally broken human cybersecurity due to quantum computing.

It doesn’t have to be so, but they want to/have make/made it be so.

Crypto me this.

It’s all about da security, but it’s boring, all so boring.

[Lorikeet (Satyr)]

Until AI begins building and programming its own upgrades it will remain a mere expression of its programmer’s ideals.

[Lorikeet (Satyr)]

My my…what Nietzsche would have thought if he could read all this crap about ‘evil’ from those implying that they are the ‘good.’
Most were once students, worshipping their mentor, and now they plan updating religious dogmas.

[Meno4]

Kind of a foreshadow in ‘Cyborg me’

as it didn’t seem boring Then:

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Crypto me this.
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Coincidence or Jung talking down?

[Meno4]

Now one might ask what does this /\ have to do with Sartr’s look?

Well supposing I looked it up, then supposing he may have looked down, from a transcending point of view. That Wagner vs Nietzche may allude to this general framework, may allude to the present ms.

[10x (X10)]

@10x

Quantum computing by definition is to break any existing encryption which is the foundation of modern cybersecurity, so it is already known that with quantum computing, today’s human security will be broken.

A fundamental lack of control of Larry Page’s “superior AI species” are to be added to a fundamentally broken human cybersecurity due to quantum computing.

@MagsJ

It doesn’t have to be so, but they want to/have make/made it be so.

Crypto me this.

It’s all about da security, but it’s boring, all so boring.

In December 2024, Google published the claim that their latest quantum computing tech had accessed and proved the existence of “parallel Universes” and would have proved “Many-Worlds Theory” or Multiverse Theory (the idea that there are an ‘infinite amount of Universes’).

Google says its new quantum chip may prove parallel universes exist

Other sources:

• Google's Quantum Chip Sparks Debate on Multiverse Theory
• Google says its new quantum chip indicates that multiple universes exist | TechCrunch
• Google Says It Appears to Have Accessed Parallel Universes

Google’s claim is highly contentious, in my opinion. But it does reveal something about quantum computing: why can Google make this claim in the first place?

The question is: where did all this ‘instantaneous compute’ occur, if NOT in an other Universe?

When one takes a closer look at it, one might see a parallel with life instead: where did life originate from, if not ‘an other Universe’?

It is the idea that causality MUST be true that underlays Google’s claim, while what is actually the case might not be of a nature that can be explained causally as in ‘originates from another Universe’.

Breaking of all human encryption: today and the in the future

From a philosophical perspective, the situation is very interesting, since while scientists may be claiming that they are ‘working on discovering encryption that can withstand quantum computing’ they may do so for billions of USD in funding while from a philosophical perspective, encryption is fundamentally impossible in time.

My other topic about the fundamental inability of true randomness addresses the philosophical root of the situation.

Is true randomness fundamentally impossible?

Define randomness.