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Oh… it totally happened without warning, this site doesn’t function properly so I never got it.

I used to get banned for doing the right thing, so I kicked doing stuff extra bad, and they left me alone.

The guys who made Southpark noted when they made Team America, World Police, whenever they made a slightly perverted joke, the people incharge of ratings threatened to make their mivie R Rated unless they clean it up, so they got the idea of making the sex scene as terrible as possible, so they could claim they met them hakf way and cleaned it up. When they submitted it… they were shocked to find the puppet sex scenes accepted.

This site is the same. You make small jokes, they will nail you. I got banned all the time, mostly behaved. You go nuts on them, suddenly your a okay.

Its seriously is like, F me sometimes here. At least people dont get banned for speaking their minds as often now.

I have absolutely no clue how you lasted all these years without getting banned. You must be supplying one of the mods with weed or something.

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No… I can’t recall the name of the thread, but the whole point was to ellicit angry shock value… the thread itself if I recall correctly immediately went into a discussion about shock value, theory of mind stuff. Or it was about the need to slur every nationality… it was years ago.

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I never treat anyone differently than they treat me. That’s key for not getting banned if you asked me to say something about it off the top of my head. I’ve certainly called people names and said horrible shit to people, but I live according to a few principles believe it or not. You can take a fine toothed comb and go over my every post, and it’s unlikely that you’ll find me as the instigator. Plus, I’m pretty good at doing philosophy. Most people memorize things that philosophers have said and walk around confused in the world wondering why their, “ism” isn’t getting them the results that they want. I don’t remember which guy said what all the time from my old classes, but I do understand the important parts of how to live the life I want to live and I execute them pretty well. I’m more shocked that the place is crawling with what seem to be 22 year old suburban basement nazis. The kooky scientists are bad enough, the nazis…I’m just confused as to why they’re here.

If I were going to start a thread to shock everyone, I don’t know what it would be about. Anyone posting here long enough it probably pretty hard to shock at this point.

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I’ve had some warnings. When someone warns me about something, I just drop the thread and don’t go back to it. No sense in testing anyone’s limits really. I mean how important can a topic on ilp be?

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The thread itself discussed the emotional state people had, entering into the thread. Yeah… I think I was offerings racial slur for every race and nation in the title (without actually doing it)… which Conan did too, the “thesis” was good, mod even admits to it, but still was taboo. I wanted people in that initial mindset so they could better discuss it. It had nothing actually to do with slurs, just a suggestion it did, and it got labeled trolling.

I’ve been banned on this site, and threatened for going over the line, for merely paraphrasing classical philosophers. Like seriously?

It hasn’t been occurring as much later my, but it was tell for a while. Aristotle almost got banned multiple times from this site. My humor was based on his and Bergson’s theory of comedy too boot.

But if you scream loudly and often enough at them, they start paying closer attention. I’m still pissed about “The Truth About The Nietzscheans” being moved to Rant, I’ve already written two chapters of that book, gonna dedicate it to Only Humean. People were freaking out hard reading it, but I could source all of it, and it certainly asserted a obvious pattern… I can point out the skeptics did something similar to the Stoics… but on this site, holy shit, it gets hidden away. “Oh… this isn’t philosophy”, like hell it isn’t, I got some awesome precedent to back me, some of the best minds in philosophy did similar stuff, central to history of philosophy, and theory of mind discussions.

My favorite was being PMed, told someone (always unnamed" was offended at my post. Great to hear… are they are evaluating their beliefs or position then? Oh… I gotta baby their position… all ideas are equal.

It honestly took a very long time to get us to the point where we could have somewhat open discussions. The recent in depth analysis of PE would of been banned a few years back, instead we are figuring out how math, science, and invention are generated in the mind. I can’t even imagine how many great discussions died due to moderator prejudice and ignorance over the years.

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Man…basic mistake.

You’ve got to ask, “Is this the truth about Nietzscheans?”. Then it’s like you’re asking. If you just say what the truth is about Nietzscheans, you know good and well that those emo bastards will get their panties in a wad and not know how to feel. You actually do have to be delicate with those types man. They’re fragile.

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I drop topics all the time. The last was me bringing up what Magsj did to Carleas, I was too damn angry to even go back into the thread and see what was written. She changed what I intended to say, made it look like I said it. In real life I would of just beat her… it’s honestly how angry it makes me. I’m going to give it a bit more cooling off time to go in and check on it, for all I know Carleas and Magsj might of agreed… just right now, I could rip her head off and put it on a Pike. Its hard to be Stoic with anger issues, the classical methods don’t work too well when your confronted with lies and bad logic. It never occur to them they do they very shit they ban others for.

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Nope… I established a obvious behavioral pattern, from autobiography and biographies of behaviors, I’m fully correct to call it the truth. It can theoretically be disproven.

I didn’t even get a chance to finish it. I knew I was doing it right when people started howling like it was the end of the world. It means I was onto something.

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Anger doesn’t really help anything ever. It’s just getting your pulse up over this or that, taking years off your own life and what have you. I’d save it up for more important things. You wouldn’t believe the kicks I’ve gotten here from some people over time who have thought that they could prod at my emotions. I really am chuckling the whole time.

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This just means you’re taking a stance on what truth and proof are.

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Not really, the school of psychology I’m a member of more or less nailed down what part of the mind truths operate out of. Now… how stable truths are in the dialectic is a whole mother matter. I can say honestly “There are truths” and “there is no such thing as truths” honestly in both cases. I can say the former cause guys like Phonetic Ethics can establish a Truth. A truth doesn’t have to be right in others eyes, just the mind of the individual… crazy, poorly thought out truths are of the same kind as the truths of genius, sincere men full of insight. Once networked, they fall apart.

You gotta have the whole brain working together to get something consistently useable. Is that the opposite of a lie? Are they balanced?

I take stances on ideas, it’s a philosophy site.

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While I don’t think that you’re wrong there, I have to say that well, as you’ve said, you’ve taken a stance on an idea, which is not the same as solving a philosophical problem. You know…excluded middle, indiscernability of identicals, non-contradiction…those rules we have to follow and things we have to accept if we’re to be “doing it right”. Can they by their nature and by the way they necessarily have to be applied prevent us from answering certain questions under certain conditions? I think so. Like we can say, “the universe is infinite” and from that go on and say a lot more things, but at the same time we could do that same thing with the idea that the universe is actually not infinite. People get crazy man. They start to think that more can be known than can be known and they put their faith and the foundations of how they see and interpret the world into bits of knowledge not sufficient to prove what it is that they want proven. It’s like people have some innate drive to makes everything so simple. But the world really isn’t. The problems can’t be solved, and the discourse is just an exercise in who can spin the most bullshit and do it the loudest.

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The statement “the universe is finite” isn’t a truth.

I would approach it first looking at finite, on a operator, operand basis, and look at how they are dealing with the word universe. If it us someone I know well, I would already have a basic (or even advanced) typology of them, would have plenty of indication how they were processing it.

How does a finite universe sit as a truth, however? a is it Zoot or Trixie, as a little boy sitting in Sunday school, rain flattering against the window, and someone explains what infinity is, and they refuse, saying that makes no sense, with a nuh-uh debate unfolding, before they learn the word Finite? How it relates to omnipresence, etc?

Each timevI debate them, it’s in that rainstorm. We all come up with or learn of concepts under odd circumstance. How we process it from that point on is based on the dialectic. Its why philosophies based on common sense don’t do too well.

Secondly, I didn’t establish it, other before me did. I’m just the current youthful philosopher in this group. Guys came before me, did a good job mapping it out. I stand on the shoulders of midgets. Its not my theory here, well… I’ve added to it, but largely isn’t mine. I’m easily impressed with lesion studies and fMRIs and case studies and biographies of people of the same type… how they handle ideas.

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See now you’re just arguing for your position. Still haven’t solved a philosophical problem. The best you could do here would be to talk me into a contradiction and beat me in some way in some debate, but even that wouldn’t settle the matter.

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No, I have no reason to see a problem. I lack a position, if I cared to, I could argue the universe is finite or infinite. I can do this, because I’ve seen arguments for both, know roughly the thinking styles used in both, and can isolate positions that are sane and consistent. I have also developed alternatives to this dichotomy in the past, knowing it’s possibilities and limitations, steampunked it.

Its not important to take a stance on everything as to know the stance everyone has. Its why you will see guys like me pay very, very close attention to a absurd number of philosophers (really hard to do in the first place) and map out their thought, and then a philosopher of the same typology (showing similar behaviors) from another culture and era, see what matches up, what doesn’t, then another, another, another, another, etc.

Its why I have no issues jumping between the present and remote antiquity, China or India or Mesopotamia, Rome or Byzantium. The terms are always different, their interests aren’t always the same, but the framework substantially overlaps. You get a strong sense for where they thought, and where that thinking leads historically. I can look at the other side, in other personality types, and see how they carried it.

Its important to get as much as possible mapped to known networks in the cytoarchitecture of the brain… A to B to C behaviorism.

When I take a position, I generally take is with knowledge I’m in a much larger spectrum. A guy like Nietzsche unfortunately sits in aspects (same type, a lot of our impulses are very similar, our approach reaching out to psychology and history, strategy) but also Aristotle and Sun Tzu, Adam Smith… much longer list.

Just… I’m not as threatened in having a stance. You can’t full proof a position. But I’m also decently self read in rhetoric, and can carry a argument, and have a absurdly unfair advantage over most. But… I’m not seeing the point in running people out of their cognitive style to find a solution in another. I can tell Iambigious indeed, Sartre was full of shit, no such thing as Existentialism… but what do I replace it with? Should I? I dunno. Best not. He might start looking critically at his beliefs, find only aspects make sense, keep them. The rest… not my concern. What is is what is natural for men to think. In philosophy we are always thinking, but also stubbornly redundant and eternal in a Aristotelian sense, always keeling to the same kind of thought. Sometimes observing this gets very, very boring. Other times I get surprises, no one has fully mapped it all out yet.

But know I don’t need to be taught how to debate, I can generally hold my own in a argument. Winning is increasingly losing its luster… it’s not from a lack of vitality and ambition, but just observing… others are thinking as it is reasonable for them to think. Why press them somewhere difficult and alien?

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Very nice. Beautiful crisp screenshot. What’s that? A Galaxy Nexus with softkeys?

PS: The last couple of years, designers have been moving to responsive design which means there’ll no longer be separate mobile, table and desktop versions per se. The one design will simply fold or unfold to fit the browser (and/or any screen size).

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It’s an LG G4. I’m not big on technology. I don’t play video games or anything, and my computer is a 149 dollar chromebook. When it breaks I just throw it away and get another one. But, I can’t go through my day to day life without a top notch smartphone. This one will let you have the raw unprocessed image and the camera settings are infinite. I couldn’t ask for more with the photos. It’s got 3gb ram, 32gb memory onnboard and a 64gb card with I think a 1.8 quad core processor. It does everything smoothly and seamlessly.

I have to reduce the pictures to 25 percent of original size to get em to post here. You should see them in all their original glory. I stopped using a real camera for vacation pics a long time ago.

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Here’s one in it’s original size hosted on another site so you can see it. I just point and shoot with that shit and it comes out pretty good.

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Nice. I’m not big on technology either, believe it or not, but I have to keep up to date because of my job. I design and develop webs (including mobile webs/apps) and use a mobile emulator to show me what sites look like on various phones but it’s great to see a screenshot of what a user is actually seeing. It looks much better than the emulation. Thanks.

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It looks the same as on a computer screen. The mobile version of the site is different. It’s not very good at all.